Thinkpad X220 Picture

Not a lot of difference, I would just like some of the new thinkpad models to start appearing, why is it taking so long to launch, so few Sandy Bridge notebooks have been released so far (All brands)

PS: I have a UK layout and I want a US layout having the \ key all over to the left instead of over the enter key is annoying

 

Things don't happen overnight.

 

Is that keyboard suppose to be larger? Or did lenovo just made the bezel a bit smaller due to the larger screen.

 

I'd trade you my US layout for the UK one anyday if you were here. Can't stand the smallness of the US "Enter". Not that big of a deal tho, but still...

 

I posted a T400s keyboard to give an idea of the changes that will come to the X220.

 

Not really. On the plus side, whenever you see two generations listed side-by-side, the elder is usually *heavily* discounted.

In my opinion, that's the best time to buy: go for the older machine and enjoy the savings.

 

Am I the only one who seem to be bothered by the location of USB ports? An USB port at the top-right is a must if you are right-handed and use the mouse.

 

USB ports or any other ports on bottom right are the worst design nightmare, especially when you are right-handed. Top right seems fine.

On the other hands, look at the T410 usb and display port location on the left side of the laptop, it's great. Unfortunately, e-sata is where your mouse would normally be.

 

the x220t looks a little off with the wide glossy screen section and those awkward top and bottom only bezels.

 

Depends what kind of glossy screen it is. I can't stand consumer-type glossy panels. Even the RGB LED one on Alienware m17x is a bit too reflective.

The Outerdoor Viewable SuperBright PVA screen that I have on the X200 tablet, is certainly in the subset which I find acceptable. It's a glossy screen that actually can be used outside. I used outside in really bright conditions. If it's something like that I'd like to put in "Approved by unreal25" stamp.

 

Yea who knows, the leaked pictures look kinda rendered or photoshopped. Even if that screen isnt glossy, the top and bottom only plastic bezel design is kinda ugly. The current tablet looks fine, but that leaked one looks off.

This may be the 16:9's doing too, and the fact they still wana keep the touchpad instead of just making the thinkpad more 'wide' to reduce the top and bottom bezel thickness.

 

Uh yeah I had 16:9 on m11x and the aspect ratio looks off for me. 16:10 is fine. I found it better even than the old 4:3 (my boss has an old Thinkpad) but I guess that depends what are you doing on a computer.

 

Thread is a little long so I only read a few pages.

Maybe the fact the leaked picture lacks the hatch, is because it was on purpose? Is lenovo moving to latchless thinkpads like sony or even their very own x100e?

I was also wondering, is this X220 going to be wider in dimensions than the X201? Can we estimate based on known dimensions of this 12.5 screen + bezzies on the side? Or is the X220 going to be actually less in the screen height instead but same width? Because I'd hate for the X220 to get any bigger because I notice the X201 is already wider (thus bigger and less mobile) than their old X60 already.

 

The old X60/61 were 4:3. X200/201 are 16:10 (1280 x 800). The new X220 is 16:9, 12.5 inches, probably the same screen as the new E220s (1366 x 768).

Which also means that also those nice AFFS panel that we can fit into our X200/201 won't fit the X220.

Time to look for potentially compatible screen now. Anyone spotted any IPS panel, or any good LCD screen, or at least high quality TN panel, on any 12.5 inches 16:9 laptop?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo-ibm/545698-thinkpad-x220-picture-8.html#post7038757

 

See this review:
Intel?s Sandy Bridge i7-2820QM: Upheaval in the Mobile Landscape - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

Not only does Sandy Bridge platform gets improved battery life, CPU performance improves significantly. Read the review and pay attention to how i7-2820QM actually out-performs in many cases previous generation DESKTOP CPU i7-920. Right, Lenovo is probably not going to put a quad core into X220, and most users won't need a quad core in a laptop of this size. But this tells us that we can expect a significant performance boost also in Sandy Bridge dual core CPUs.

 

Also see their battery life test here:
Intel?s Sandy Bridge i7-2820QM: Upheaval in the Mobile Landscape - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

The laptop they use is equipped with a quad core i7-2820QM CPU, and a 71 Wh capacity battery. X200 9-cell battery is 84.2Wh, just imagine what kind of battery life we would get on a dual core CPU, and those low voltage CPUs on the "s" models.

 

One more thing to add to the discussion. A few pages before someone posted the spec of X220 from some Chinese website. It states that it is going to use the Intel QM67 chipset.

According to Intel website, this chipset is "announced" but not "launched", and the launch date is Feb 20, 2011. So I suppose Lenovo cannot launch the X220 before that date?
Mobile Intel® QM67 Express Chipset

 

Well I have read good things about the U260 matte screen so that is an option if that screen turns out to be better.

 

All laptops with dual core Sandy Bridge can't be launched until 2/20.

 

Why is that?

 

See here, Intel has too many Arrandale cpu's left over.

 

Oh I see. :\

 

Do we know the weight of the X220 vs the X20x? If not do you think we may see a weight increase or will we get lucky and some how weight the same despite the larger screen size(and possible dimensions)?

 

All is revealed in the tabook. The X220 at this point remains a mystery, though I wouldn't expect them to stray too far.

 

Darn, I hope I don't develop a case of buyer's remorse for my new x201 when the x220 is released. I'm already envying the modified trackpad and improved battery life.

 

If they drop top roll cage on X220 and loose considerably in structural strength compared to current 12" X series with top roll cage then Id rather think that those with X200/X201 are the winners
Then again, time will tell about X220 build quality.

 

Should the X201 be anything special? I can press a finger at the laptops top and see a blurry circle on the screen inside the case (Not all over the top, but some places) so its not that well build.

 

Wow, and I thought that its as good as my R400.
You learn something about supposed superior ThinkPad quality every day I suppose

 

There is no magnesium rollcage for the X20x series, the X20x use a magnesium casing and the x20xs use a GFRP casing. It is nearly impossible to fit a conventional magnesium rollcage like that of the R400, T400, etc into that of the X series without making the screen casing thicker.

 

Ok, I stand corrected, I knew there is next-gen rollcage on X20xS series and magnesium lid without rollcage on X20x regular series, but does it really allow for ripples to appear on the screen when pressed?
I mean, when I had ripples on my R400 screen I got it replaced and now I feel like I could step onto it accidentally and nothing might happen, Im not that convinced about T410 anymore because tho it feels and looks sturdy, I wouldnt want to test its limits due to lack of rollcage.

 

"when all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail."
- maslow's maxim

stop looking for problems and start enjoying your system.   you'll be much happier.

 

Im NOT looking for problems just to nitpick, I want to make sure EVERYTHINGS working the way its supposed to on a new machine, I love my new ThinkPad.

And I do want to get either X201 or X220/X220s or whatever will be the best available price-performance wise when I will be getting one.
I want my gadgets to be sturdy and reliable, I want to be sure that no matter where I toss it in it will survive traveling in either laptop bag with only laptop inside or in travel bag stuffed with other things with laptop in between.

I understand that TP's are not rugged ones, but still they are supposedly offering higher build quality and are sturdier than lots of other laptops in the market and it just happens that I like ThinkPad's the most out of all available laptops in its price range.

 

s*it happens:

Intel is recalling Sandy Bridge chipset:
Intel finds Sandy Bridge chipset design flaw, shipments stopped and recalls beginning -- Engadget

 

Whoa! Probably not that big of a deal for Thinkpads, as they are still on "Core i" CPU's, but something to think about if you're going for a new computer.

 

everything is working as designed.

the ability to create pressure marks on a display by pressing on a lid does not mean something is prone to failure.   in engineering terms it's considered energy distribution.   something so stiff as to not bend will instead crack, break, or completely fail.   something has to give.   since LED displays no longer have to protect fragile CCFL tubes, thinkpads can now flex a bit and survive even more pressure than their siblings.

remove the word "supposedly" from the above and you'll be on the right track.

 

Well, if LED displays allow for better energy distribution, then I dont mind if it allows for minor intrusion, unless, ofcourse, it means that compared to roll-cage ThinkPads new ones will need considerably smaller impact on comparably equal field of LCD size-wise to make it fracture LCD
Like if on older ThinkPad bottle of beer wont cause fracture while on never it will while stuffed in a bag and accidentally for example squeezing bag harder in tight space, even if not for longer than just a fracture of a second or two, then Id say new design looses

Purely speculating here without any data or evidence, just personal concerns and interest.

 

Whether the LCD shows ripple or not depends on how stiff the external casing is (and therefore how thick the casing material is). Just because the X2xx use a magnesium alloy screen casing doesn't mean it won't show ripple when pushed.

 

Kinda strange this report on ripples on Veer's R400. I have no ripples on mind and I have used quite a bit of force on it. But then again, his machine was quite the lemon in the first place!

 

This is the T520/T420 spec.

 

1600x900 would be a welcome addition on the T420s. The more screen real estate, the better. Just wondering how the new form-factor will affect the dimensions and weight.

 

Typically, in most laptops that made the 16:10 to 16:9 transition, vertical height decreased slightly, and horizontal width increased slightly (usually more than vertical height shrinks), with little to no change in weight. We'll see with the new Thinkpads, though!

 

Posted in the Lenovo's forum:

 

Hopefully that also means the T420 got a higher quality screen(or at least the option) that can match the T5x0 series better rated FHD screen.

 

I like anything of its except why Lan connection port is right side at the same same side with mouse position, i think it is not comfortable to use lan port and mouse on the right side at the same time, lol. however, it is different a little bit from thinkpad x201 that i have it. x220 should have touchpad buttons for the left and right click because it help thinkpad lover members to be more attractive for buying. besides, i never use t410 or t510 before so i don't know about how their keyboard good but i like my x201 keyboard so much, it give me a feeling to like to wanna type. and i am not sure will they change battery and hdd color to really black that i won't like it because it just make a whole body different from hdd and battery color too much. i think i prefer my x201 rather than x220. in the future, i have a plan to buy some thinkpad tablet so i might buy thinkpad x220t but i wanna see the real x220 and x220t body before to make my decision....

 

have someone know when thinkpad X220 will release? I wanna see the real of its

 

Guess all new Sandy Bridge based laptops are postponed until Intel has sorted out the sata issues? New motherboards are not out yet Iam pretty sure

 

No one knows, outside of Lenovo. We'll see updated T series and W series probably in the next week or two, but no clue about the X because it might have a different update schedule.

 

seeing as they didnt announce anything in the highly followed CES i bet it will be many more months before they release it, especially with the very recent intel issue also.

 

According to this page, ThinkPad X220s???? - THE?? (or Google Translate through Google translation), the X220s will have 12.5" 1600x900. I hope this info is correct!