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    Thinkpad x1 carbon 5th (2017) Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by hunterdt, Feb 17, 2017.

  1. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Mine isn't doing that.
     
  2. JJLight

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    Here's a nice video review. It highlights the same trackpad and fan noise issues identified in this discussion, but doesn't mention any of the build quality issues I found with mine.
     
  3. awharton

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    Good review - glad it's not just me that has noticed the fan issues
     
  4. droyder

    droyder Notebook Evangelist

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    A few questions for owners regarding the FHD panel:

    1. Is it 100% true matte with zero reflections, even when displaying completely dark or black content?

    2. When watching content (like a movie) with black bars on the top and bottom - are the bars 100% black and light bleed free?... i.e. Any hints of flash lighting in the corners and/or bleed along the top and bottom edges?

    3. Do we know yet how many different suppliers there are for the FHD panel? Early in the thread, an owner stated that they have an "AUO (B140HAN03.1 RGB4:4:4)" panel, but a different owner later said they have a "LEN40A9" panel.

    Based on a Google search, the "LEN40A9" is manufactured by Innolux. And I know that (at least with respect to big screen TV's), AUO is considered more premium quality than Innolux. I also know that prior generations of the X1 Carbon and T-Series have used LG panels. So I'm just curious how many different potential panel suppliers we're looking at here(?).

    4. How are blacks, color saturation, and color accuracy in general?... Any issues with yellows?... Anyone done a basic calibration yet which produced any noticeable improvements?

    Thanks for your time.
     
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  5. awharton

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    Lenovo have suggested to change the fan, heatsink and a whole new mainboard to try and solve the overheating/fan issues. I have obviously rejected this offer - and they will now be sending out a replacement to see if that solves the issue.
     
  6. droyder

    droyder Notebook Evangelist

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    Lisa sounded pretty confident that the current fan issue should be resolved with a BIOS update from Lenovo, and the trackpad issue with a drivers update (for now, the trackpad issue can be fixed/managed manually by restarting machine when the issue arises).

    Hopefully Lenovo is reading this forum and/or these issues are being reported on Lenovo's own forum. They're usually pretty good about addressing matters.

    That said, I would definitely try a replacement in the meantime.
     
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  7. Danielo290881

    Danielo290881 Notebook Enthusiast

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    There is a new bios update 1.16 online
    CHANGES IN THIS RELEASE
    Version 1.16

    [Important updates]
    Nothing.

    [New functions or enhancements]
    - Added support of Windows 8.1 64-bit.
    - Updated the CPU microcode.

    [Problem fixes]
    - Fixed some issues with ThinkPad Thunderbolt 3 Dock or ThinkPad USB-C Dock.
    - Fixed an issue where Windows 7 32 bit system might hang at resume from hibernation.
     
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  8. awharton

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    Will give the new BIOS a try tonight. Shame is doesn't address any of the issues highlighted so far.
     
  9. Danielo290881

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    Have installed it but didnt notice anything . Fan Issue still persists and i hope they will fix it soon.
     
  10. alphachaser

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    installed ubuntu 16.04, can't seem to get the trackpoint to work properly (scrolling doesn't work, can't adjust sensitivity/speed). The trackpad works fine.

    I don't think the drivers are available for the trackpoint, any tips on this?
     
  11. awharton

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    Same for me - no difference at all.
     
  12. jaredy

    jaredy Notebook Virtuoso

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    HWinfo64 shows the following.

    Monitor Name: Lenovo [Unknown Model: LEN40A9]
    Monitor Name (Manuf): B140HAN03.1

    So I think the reference to LEN40A9 is a generic one and not the actual AUO model and revision.
     
  13. droyder

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    Hmmm, interesting. Perhaps that LEN part is just generic. Hopefully all owners thus far have the same "B140HAN03.1" monitor name.

    The B140HAN03.1 is the revision of this panel by AUO:

    http://www.panelook.com/B140HAN03.0_AUO_14.0_LCM_overview_28076.html

    However, the B140HAN03.1 model does not yet appear in that panel database likely due to it being new. I'll be interested in seeing its specs once entered.
     
  14. alphachaser

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    Another issue with the laptop I'm noticing is the power output imbalance between the USB 3.0 ports. The right side seems to be able to power my USB 3.0 Monitor just fine, but the left side can't keep the monitor powered on. Is anyone else noticing power issues on the left usb port?
     
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    I'm pretty torn - the X1 looks perfect, but it *has* to be quiet.

    It seems pretty split over those who say it's silent, while others say the fan is jumpy and irritating (including Notebookcheck)
    My other option is the Dell XPS13, which has a thicker body and by all accounts seems to be quiet.

    Hmmm...if anyone has updates on this I'd be grateful to hear about it.
     
  16. SiavashTechDaD

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    We have to know when users say the fan is noisy , is it running in high RPM or it's just noisy in low RPM .
    if it's running in high RPM , a firmware update and a better thermal paste will solve the issue .
    if the fan is noisy in low RPM , then the fan has to be changed from Lenovo and we have to wait for a fix from Lenovo.

    if anyone here , has the laptop please install a fan speed control application and report the rpm and CPU package temperature when the fan is at it's noisiest state .

    Thanks .
     
  17. greystone

    greystone Notebook Consultant

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    I've had mine for nearly three weeks, have *never* heard the fan. To be fair I haven't heavily taxed the CPU but have run VMs and keep a good collection of Chrome tabs open.

    Flat keyboard, "sharp" front edge and relatively small clickpad are my issues compared to my T440s.
     
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    makingmark Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think processor might be a factor in whether or not your fan is noisy. I have an i5 and have no issues. I wonder if fan noise being a complaint is more prevalent among those with the i7.
     
  19. Danielo290881

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    If i had seen this yesterday i would have answered with "Yes thats right, cause i have i7 and i hear the fan very often".
    Today there is an Intel Management Firmware Update. Although there isnt mentioned anything about the fan and i think fan issues could only be solved with bios updates, the fan is quiet today after the Intel Management update ...
     
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  20. daniel goodridge

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    This sounds very good---- are you using i5 or i7?

    [EDIT sorry quoted wrong msg]
     
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  21. daniel goodridge

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    This sounds very good - is yours i5 or i7 ?
     
  22. awharton

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    Think the i5 is probbaly better than the i7 in terms of heat dissipation - but I'm sure the same issue exists on both - just doesnt show itself as much on the i5
     
  23. daniel goodridge

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    Have you tried this fix below, mentioned on page 12 on your machine ?

    If i had seen this yesterday i would have answered with "Yes thats right, cause i have i7 and i hear the fan very often".
    Today there is an Intel Management Firmware Update. Although there isnt mentioned anything about the fan and i think fan issues could only be solved with bios updates, the fan is quiet today after the Intel Management update ...
     
  24. awharton

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    Yes - tried that this morning. Hasn't made a huge difference for me unfortunately. Typing this message now with just one tab open and nothing else running - CPU at around 15-20% and the fan is running - pretty ridiculous for a laptop of this calibre.
     
  25. Thors.Hammer

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    Maybe you should return yours. You seem displeased.
     
  26. Danielo290881

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    I have seen two X1C5 where number six on the keyboard is much brighter than the other numbers when backlight Keyboard is on.
     
  27. awharton

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    Yes - waiting for a replacement to come and this one will be returned. Will see what the next one is like...
     
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    That seems kind of high - I'm at about 8% using Chrome / Win10 on my old Z30 (i7 5500u)
     
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    Just ordered a 5th Gen X1 Carbon on Monday. The base configurable model wasn't available until Monday and it finally showed up for me. Ordered the base config without much custom config, I am planning to upgrade the SSD myself. For me Lenovo showed a shipping estimate of 4 - 5 weeks.

    Wondering how long it typically takes to ship and if its really going to take 4-5 weeks.
     
  30. Mobius 1

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    shame this still have solder ram
     
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  31. awharton

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    Just installed Windows 10 Creators Update (15063) - EasyResume feature has stopped working and it seems even if you re-install all power management drivers again it still does not work. Just a word of caution in case anyone else updates.
     
  32. Thors.Hammer

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    Where did you get the software/drivers? I don't see EasyResume listed at http://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/p...s/thinkpad-x1-carbon-type-20hr-20hq/downloads
     
  33. awharton

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    EasyResume isn't listed. I just installed all the base and power management type drivers.

    The Instant On service is the the that controls this function as is still there after the update, but doesn't do anything when the lid is closed.

    Have tried the upgrade now four times with no success.
     
  34. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Any guess what's the difference between the 7500U and 7600U i7 models? They both come with 14" FHD and 16GB onboard. Only difference is vPro, but I'm not entirely sure if that would make a difference to everyday user.

    http://psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_5th_Gen

    [​IMG]



    The warranty offered is "Limited warranty - 3 years - pick-up and return" does this include in home service?

    Battery is limited to 1 year though...
     
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  35. ThePerfectStorm

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    The 7500U model has a WQHD screen in the image you posted.

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
  36. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Ahh that, I didn't notice it.

    Eyeing the 7600U version then.




    Do you know how warranty is handled by lenovo? Do they offer in-home service for the 3 year period?
     
  37. makingmark

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    Standard 3 year warranty is depot (ship it off). You have to pay extra for expedited (3 day turn around) or in-home.
     
  38. awharton

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    In the UK is next day in home for 3 years as standard
     
  39. Mobius 1

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    can you do this after purchasing the laptop?
     
  40. Thors.Hammer

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    Windows 10 Pro works perfectly on mine.
     
  41. awharton

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    When you close the lid does the laptop go into proper EasyResume mode or suspend?

    Did you upgrade to the creators edition or do a clean install?
     
  42. makingmark

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    You are supposed to be able to upgrade after purchase. I tried to look online but for some reason the site didn't find my serial number, but I'm guessing they could do it if I called.

    Thanks for clarifying awharton - what I had said was true for my purchase of a TopSeller model direct from Lenovo. It really depends on what you're buying and who you buy it from. It looks like from the Lenovo site, the custom order options have a 1 year warranty standard.
     
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    Ah ok.

    Am buying from my business, but it says the 7600/16/512 have Limited 3 years with pick-up and return, if I can extend this it would be a good idea. I will give Lenovo a call after purchasing.



    Does anyone know if Lenovo supply you with a new thinkpad if the gen 5 is out of production and yours break?
     
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  44. Thors.Hammer

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    Clean install of Windows 10 Pro. When I close the lid, it suspends on battery power. Nothing on AC power. Hibernation and Fast Startup are turned off.
     
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  45. awharton

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    OK - yes suspend is working fine for me. The issue is the EasyResume function which is not a full suspend - but a parital one for 15 mins before a full suspend does not work. EasyResume disable some functions like speakers, microphone etc to save power, but not network and has an instant resume.
     
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    I am not familiar with the feature you are describing. Is it Lenovo code, or built-in to Windows?
     
  47. awharton

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    It's a Lenovo feature. Under Lenovo Settings > Power > EasyResume.
     
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    Looks like they are in stock for Canada. 256gb SSD and 16gb RAM is $2669 with EPP pricing its $1900 so roughly 29% in savings. Might hold off until they have Windows Hello IR camera available and for 40% savings around Christmas time.
     
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    From Lenovo's Danish site I have the choice between these two processors at almost the same price.
    • Intel Core i7-7500U-processor (4 MB cache, op til 3,5 GHz)
    • Intel Core i5-7300U-processor (3 MB cache, op til 3,50 GHz
    The i7 is actually 10$ cheaper than the i5. Do you guys know why the i7 is cheaper, and which would you chose? With the reported fan noice i'm wondering if the i5 would be the wise choice ... or what do you think?
     
  50. makingmark

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    Don't know why the i7 would be cheaper. I am happy with my i5 but I will say if you do some video editing, get the i7 - encoding will be faster.
     
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