Y50 Thread

Yeah, they're pretty good. I rely on them the most for facts and usually look at Engadget and the Verge for more personal opinions. You still have to be careful with notebookcheck's information though. Last year for about 4 months straight, they continuously kept putting out reviews on laptop screens saying the max brightness would drop when the AC adapter was removed. They completely ignored the fact that adaptive brightness was turned on when the power adapter was removed and it made the screen dimmer by software.

 

Youtube 4k videos are absolutely stunning on the UHD screen.

 

Does the y50 UHD go higher than 48hz in 1080p or is it locked at 48hz at 1080p also?

And does the y50 touch go over than 48hz? Is it good for gaming like at 60hz? And how are the colors on it?

 

If you had looked as recently as the previous page your question would have been answered; no it cannot go over 48hz under any circumstances thus far, which is why there is so much discussion on it

The FHD versions all go to 60hz including the touch. Colors are pretty abysmal on all the FHD versions

 

You have the glossy panel. Most reviews out there (both "professional" and amateur) cover the matte panel.

Having reviewed the matte panel (in my sig) I can confirm that while the panel is indeed usable, it is pretty bad.

It is bad enough that many people are contemplating replacing it, and some already have. If the panel wasn't that bad, people wouldn't go to that extreme. They're spending $100+ to fix the display, which is compelling evidence I would think.

That being said, that Digital Trends review was weird. They caught the flaws that pretty much everybody else has mentioned (display and keyboard) then make up stuff about design and heat.

 

Even if I wanted to replace the screen though I would not be able to because, the Screen Compendium Thread has not found any screen compatible with the glass digitizer on the y50 touch. Right?

 

Stymied here; can you not download a Windows 8.1 ISO to make a bootable disc/USB for clean installation without the labyrinthine workarounds I'm reading?

 

That would be correct, that thread is really about the non-touch version.

It would also seem that the glossy, touch version isn't as bad as the non-touch (probably due to glossy vs matte, since glossy helps colours "pop" more).

 

So can the touch get up to 60fps? If so then it is definitely the best bang for your buck.

 

Former touch owner, here. Color wasn't bad. Screen looked decent, if only at an exact and unforgiving viewing angle. Even tiny adjustments (of your head or body in your seat, let alone the position of the screen) would cause tiny but noticeable shifts. Unbearable, long term.

 

speaking of nbcheck, why does nbcheck have not reviewed the popular y50 yet?

 

We can only speculate. My guess is their review model is stuck in customs from china because it did not turn on pre flight.


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digitaltrends is most likely bsing on the temps, but saying the y50 has poor cooling is correct although they backed it up with stupid reasons. I have already explained why the cooling of y50 is unsatisfactory and I will say this again.

granted, you are not gonna feel the heat much under normal usage, but that doesn't mean it has good cooling, that's just a standard. so far lenovo has "impressed" me a lot with its design to cool an i7 quad core with ONLY ONE heatpipe that is also SHARED with the GPU.

if you think it has good cooling, lemme ask you this, why is there a temperature limit of 65°C on turbo boost? beyond 65°C turbo boost automatically shuts off and you are running on the default clock. under double stress mark CPU throttles to 1.2GHz as tested by pulse123 before.

what I consider satisfactory cooling isn't just temps. satisfactory to me means if I run a double stress test nothing will throttle, even if it can get a little toasty. an excellent cooling would be under double stress test nothing throttles, CPU can keep turbo on four cores and gpu keeps boosting while maintaining reasonable temps

almost all mainstream gaming notebooks have unsatisfactory cooling because they just can't keep the i7 at its default clock under max load.

before you argue back with your reasons, please read my previous post commenting on the cooling http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/741832-y50-thread-595.html#post9705129

that should pretty much clear things up

 

I asked them on Facebook on Sunday.

 

Did you get what model they are reviewing. I am hoping it is the UHD 4k version.


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Actually, I hope its the standard FHD Matte Model, I want to get the run down on the screen from their professional tests.

 

Why? lol To put salt on the wound? That review might drive the price down, if anything.

 

I hope they have the FHD-version, too. yes, the screen will not be reviewed as good for sure. but I would really appreciate clear numbers on what to expect from the screen. the panel is the biggest con-argument against the Y50 at the moment. UHD is resolutionwise unneccessary IMHO and adds a hefty fee to the price. all the other specs seem quite impressive, so it boils down to: HOW bad is the FHD-screen? minor annoyance? or utter crap? see the point?

 

Can someone please comment on whether the screen (including viewing angles) for the Y50 Touch is better that the regular Y50 base model matte screen?

 

Hi Im from malaysia too. Its available in places like techhypermart or tech armory subang. I have no idea about availability of stock though.

 

Regarding the UHD 48 Hz lock again...

I haven't found the answer to this question on the past 200 pages, so:
Has anyone tried to just disable to Intel HD 4600 and run solely on the NVidia card? It might screw the battery time even harder, but the lock could be avoided.

Kind regards
- Retalian

 

I asked them on July 2

That's good that they have it though.

 

I think Xentar said before that the NVIDIA card doesn't work without that driver.

EDIT: On page 99 in the Owner's Thread, Xentar did indeed confirm that the NVIDIA card won't work without the driver. The refresh rate lock wasn't there though.

 

I've been going back and forth....and back and forth....and yeah you get the point...on getting the FHD or UHD. I've settled on the UHD. I'm not a gamer, I'm into photo/video editing so 48hz won't affect me. I'm getting the one on Amazon for....certain reasons. Should be here Sunday. It comes with a 256gb SSD but I plan on putting in a 1TB.... make some money back by selling that 256 on eBay..lol

 

Hello friend , some questions

1. How is the screen of uhd 4k version ? Is it good enough ? Significantly better than the fhd version's tn panel ?
2. Is the 4k version locked to 48 hz or it goes to 60 ?
3. How is the build , does if feel premium or crappy ?
4. How much does it stand upto MSI GS60 ghost ??

 

lol. I know the thread has almost 650 pages, but there do exist tools like "search", you know? and I think it is at least possible to take a look at the last couple of pages. at least some of the uestions would have been answered there.

 

If you are into photo editing, note that at least my UHD screen has issues with yellow. There is a neon, greenish tint to pure yellow and although I ignored it at first, it is bothering me more and more now that I know it is there. Mind over matter I guess.

 

Because we all "know" the UHD panel is better. We need professional tests to really know what the deal is on the FHD matte panel. And to settle the question once and for all, really.

Right now you have people saying it isn't so bad, while others either return it or change the screen (because it is bad). So which one is it? A professional review using objective tests will tell us which of the two points of view (bad/good) is subjective opinion and which is fact.

Both can be valid. Just because a panel is bad, doesn't mean you won't be able to live with it. But people need to know.

 

As far as I know, they're all the same panel, just either glossy or matte.

So viewing angles should be the same on the Touch vs non-Touch. Colour reproduction should "look" better on the glossy Touch.

Subjective samples of reviews and comments here suggest that the glossy Touch FHD panel isn't quite as bad as the matte version.

 

We already know what the gamut, contrast ratio, etc is from that Chinese review posted a while back. I even verified it with my equipment. Notebookcheck can verify it a second time if it makes you feel better but I would rather see an official review of the 4k screen(or both which won't happen). People are still going to tolerate the screen even if the review says it's bad.

Edit: I guess I see what you mean though. People who don't read these forums will probably be in the dark. I forget there are actually people who spend big bucks on laptops and don't visit forums to get the real reviews.

 

Did anyone try to override the 48Hz limit with Powerstrip or similar software?

 

I thought a couple times of suggesting that, but I haven't used PowerStrip in almost 10 years, I didn't even know if it's still around and compatible with the latest standards.

That's a serious power tool. Only for folks who know about display tech (at least when I last used it).

Edit: Looks like it was last updated in March 2012. That's not too old. I would give it a try if I had one of these babies.

 

So are there any reviews or in depth videos of the 4k model? I'm not too concerned about the framerate (though I do appreciate everyone's opinions on the matter) but at this point I don't see anything that competes with the power/price ratio other than the Asus coming in a few months.

 

ASUS G550JK-DS71 vs Lenovo y50?

pros: Lenovo y50 has a stronger GPU
cons: under-average TN panel and a weak keyboard (according to posts made here)

I still can't decide, anyone own the asus? or have tried both?

thanks!

p.s. anyone know of legit e-coupons for the y50?

 

Can anyone comment on the wireless connection on the Y50 (Intel 3160AC Dual band)? How does it compare to Intel 7260AC if it is also dual band?

 

I got a Realtek wifi built in, and I haven´t experienced any drops or anything, but my download speed ist about 10% faster compared to my old Asus n61

 

I really wish Lenovo would sell at version of the Y50 with an IPS FHD screen. I have the 4K version and the screen is amazing, but the high-DPI causes all kinds of problems with applications that are not built for it, and it's just kind of unwieldly to deal with. If the screen were just as bright and clear but FHD instead of UHD, I think it would be perfect (and also cheaper).

Aside from that, my only other complaint so far is how much of a fingerprint magnet the top is. I feel like I need to always carry a cloth with me to wipe it down every time I open the machine.

 

Do you observe some " image retention or burn-in" effect on 4k display ?

 

Why not just change to 1080p on the desktop until they get things sorted out? All you have to do is rescale everything but you only have to do it once.

 

So I got my Y50 UHD today... here's a short review from my side:

It's pretty darn thin and for a gaming notebook is it pretty lightweight as well. The case with the brushed metal is neat, the form-accents are also quite nice, but the metal itself is a fingerprint magnet. I had pretty dry fingers when I touched it, but still left marks.
It has an acceptable fast SSD( especially satisfying for me, as I usually use HDDs ), with which it took me just 5:18 Minutes to install Windows and get my system running. A pretty bright screen that almost made up for being glossy, could still be brighter. On the noise-side it scored very well. You can hear it, when the fans start spinning, but it's not a screechy-noise - it's just the whispering of wind... it feels rather relaxing.

The BIOS is below average nowadays - feels like I've been transported back to the 90s. The Keyboard did not bend as hard as people described it - but I think the cursor buttons are... let's say "different". I have no idea what that's supposed to be, but you can press the upper part of each( to trigger the actual cursor event ) and the lower part, which apparently doesn't do anything. I would totally have accepted another function sharing the same button, but there's nothing. The sound speakers are not as good as expected - but still better than your average notebook-speakers.


The display though lacked quality - might have been just my luck, but I had massive screen bleeding - located in all corners, at the upper, lower and right edges and the one from the top right corner just stretched to the middle of the screen slightly, affecting the whole quadrant.
Aside of that I did not find a way to fix the 48 Hz issue, though I have tried every available driver and combination I could find and that's a major turn-off.


Anyway: My Y50 UHD experience has ended for now, as I'm going to send it back due to the screen bleeding... I'll probably stab myself, if that means that I have to wait another 1,5 months.

Kind regards
- Retalian

 

Hello, I am about to cancel an order placed through Lenovo. I am looking to get the y50 touch model number 59421835 (touch, 4710, 16 GB, 4gb 860m). Does anyone have a suggestion on a good place to buy one, and receive an AUO monitor? If you currently have this laptop with an AUO monitor, can you tell me where you ordered from? Thanks!

 

Is the 860m with 4gb significantly better than the 860m with 2gb? Someone confirmed earlier that they were both Maxwell, but I don't know much about the effects of just throwing in more vram...

 

As I understand it, you want about 1GB of VRAM per screen. So unless you're outputting to multiple screens, you probably don't need the 4GB.

 

That is not true anymore. Heavily modded skyrim and recent games like watchdogs and supposedly wolfenstein the new order all eat up more than 2gb of vram regularly, so 4gb vram WILL make a difference in those cases

 

Well after having the Y50 UHD for a full day now a few observations...

1. First let me say I'm not a gamer. The 860M w/2GB @48hz is more than enough for someone that isn't a heavy gamer.

2. I've read where some are having issues with screen bleed, colors being a little off, etc. I don't have any of those issues with mine. The UHD display is gorgeous. The 4K content I've seen is truly amazing.

3. That being said... it's not worth the extra $300 right now. Not enough 4K content and most programs and websites are not scaling well at all. Text is fuzzy and just looks horrid sometimes. I literally have to put my face almost touching the screen to read some of the text. Do I regret buying the UHD model? Not at all... because everything is going to be 4k eventually and I won't have to worry about upgrading for a few years. If you're on the fence, wait. I'm running a 27" LED IPS external in FHD and that's just fine until the world starts pumping out 4k content.

4. Very well made laptop except the top is a freakin fingerprint magnet for some reason. I got rid of the Lenovo partition to free up some space until I can drop in a 1TB SSD

5. I was going to put Windows 7 Ultimate on but 8.1 isn't all that bad. Still on the fence and I'll probably make a final decision on that went it comes time to clone the drives.

6. All in all I've very happy with the purchase and glad I bought when I did... got it for $1299 on Amazon and now they're sold out.... 3rd party is offering it for $1660 same specs as mine.

 

Tbh I'm kinda curious as to why people don't go business class laptops if they don't game at all? Huge part of the appeal is the 860m; that would be completely wasted

 

On my 4K laptop, Firefox looks much better than Chrome when viewing websites under 4K resolution. Maybe you can try it out.

 

I do photo and video editing.

 

I'm on the road for my job half the year so I'll have plenty of time to mess with the 4k...lol I'll try it out.. IE+8.1 is horrible... I'm running FF.

 

LOL That's what I do on my Y470. :yes:

See my report from a couple of months ago:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ide...ovo-y470-y570-official-owners-thread-303.html

I bought the Y470 in spite of the Nvidia GT 550m. I mostly have the GT 550m's switch, on the front of the laptop, turned off until I need it. My "huge part of the appeal" for my system, was the 14" size (I have a table next to my bed, that it just fits perfectly on), and the WiDi, so I could project the screen wirelessly, to my 50" Panasonic Plasma. Remember, this was 4 years ago, before Win 8 came out with Miracast. WiDi is pretty convenient, for streaming all media content, to the TV at 1080. Plus, I get Dolby 5.1 sound out of this setup. Win/Win.

Congrats otacon, on your new system! :thumbsup: