Y50 Thread

I have a Dell XPS X702 w/GT555M 3gb and FHD display. Gorgeous screen. I really like the laptop but it weigh 10 freakin pounds. 15.6" in a 5lb package is just right. I wanted something lighter but also had a decent discrete GPU that say Photoshop can take advantage of. I don't need a 17" screen because I run an external monitor when I'm home. I'll invest in a UHD external at some point but not worth it right now. Took me a month to settle on the Y50 then another week of going back and forth about the UHD display. The one thing I hate is Optimus and you can't even download the updated drivers from Nvidia... it won't install. At least on my XPS I could install the drivers directly from Nvidia.

 

By any chance do you know when the amezing Y50, I think in Europe called Y50-70 is gonna be avaiable in UK? I was looking for the realease date but couldn't find it anywhere in the web. Also, by any chance do you think you can guess the price of the Y50. I actually fall in love with it and I am planning to get it for university.
Thanks for the help

 

What business class machine has these specs, is this thin, and is in this price range?

 

Except if you are not gaming why do you need those specs? Pretty sure a quadro or a firepro is exponentially better than a geforce for anything other than gaming.

Basically my point is that geforce cards are really only good for gaming-this is shown on benchmarks. If you are not utilizing the card through gaming, then its nowhere this great value as a huge chunk of that value disappears... This applies for any laptop that uses geforce cards really.

I do understand if UHD is actually one of the main attractions as this is one of the only UHD laptops on the market.

 

I'm from the UK and I bought this laptop for my 21st for £850 off Amazon (including postage and import charge from the US). I'm pretty sure when it arrives in the UK it will cost that if not more.

I can say that it's brilliant and well worth the money, though only recently I've been having problems with the touchpad. When gaming it doesn't respond properly to the keyboard and mouse (such as walking with the arrow keys and then trying to pan around the screen with the touchpad) so it can be a bit of a pain.

Just bought a wireless mouse to use instead. I'm not sure if it's because of using the wireless mouse for a while or something else, but now the touchpad doesn't work at all! Has this happened to anybody else?

 

Many programs can take advantage of a discrete GPU's processing power.

 

does anyone here know how to get lenovo settings running? mine was a dos model so i downloaded the lenovo settings from the ms store, after updating the drivers for the app it just crashes when loading. help? :/

 

notebookcheck review now in English: Lenovo IdeaPad Y50 Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

NOT impressed, these are my main concerns:
FullHD panel among the worst FullHD panel results I've seen.
CPU almost never using turbo boost, resulting in performance below other computers with same CPU.
Up to 60C surface temps on left side of Keyboard..... that's just where my left hand tends to be when gaming!

The other issues with flexing keyboard and high fan noise under high stress I could probably live with.

Gonna pass on this and see how the asus G551 turns out!

 

The y50 is out in The Netherlands

 

The build quality of business-class laptops is quite a bit better than the Y50. In addition, the drivers for business-class GPUs (Quadro) are MUCH more stable and optimized for business-type applications (CAD, etc)

If you're a consumer/gamer, you'll buy the Y50 (well, maybe not...). If you're a business user, you'll buy the business class products. Simple really. Price isn't as much of a concern for true business users as it is for consumers. There's a reason consumer notebooks are cheaper (with cheaper build quality) than business notebooks. Companies like Lenovo discovered long ago that your average consumer was far more price sensitive than your average business.

A business is willing to pay top dollar for top quality. Your average consumer isn't.

 

Hi everyone,

I just bought my lenovo Y50 15"6 fullHD LED non-touch:
Intel Core i7-4700HQ
8GB (2x 4096MB) - DDR3, 1600MHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M (4GB GDDR5, GM107)
8GB SSD +1TB (1000GB) 5400rpm SATA
Wi-Fi 802.11ac

First thing I installed Win 7 x64 and of course encountered the issue with nVDIIA drivers, but thanks to this thread I found the solution. THANKS for it.
Then I installed all the other drivers recommended from Lenovo website, updated the Windows, installed couple of basic apps/programs and thought everything should be fine. Well, I guessed ALMOST correctly. Indeed I haven't seen any major problem so far, but there is this one issue, which annoys the hell out of me:

When I play League of Legends, every single match, randomly I receive lag spikes/freezes for 0.5s. It's just very irritating and frustrating. It's so tiny, but yet so disturbing and it doesn't happen rarely, oh god, it happens all the time. I don't know if you ever have played it, but let me draw you the picture: While you move your character across the map, sometimes he just shows up to a different location than you sent him, something like he was teleported to a small distance, it can happen in a fight of course. It's either FPS drop or lag spike. However, I have been monitoring it while the problem appears. It shows 60 FPS permanently, no matter what graphic quality I choose, or how loaded the system is. But it's the same with the ping as well... when the micro freeze/lag happens , the ping is unchanged.

I thought it was a network issue, since the ping was going up and down(but not when the lag/freeze happens). BUT on my previous laptop, I didn't and still don't have this issue. Which made me think it might be the Wi-fi driver, so I installed the last version from Intel, unfortunately the issue still persists.

I even typed the times when the micro lag spikes happened and then checked the event viewer: nothing was correlated...

I also tried with Ethernet cable connection: THE SAME issue


Any ideas ? Thanks in advance!

P.S. It only happens in this game, for example in Path of Exile I don't have any lag spikes/freezes

 

microsoft is ending win7 servicing in 2015 so...

 

Hi

The display is average at best...
CPU almost never turbo boosting....practically you're never going to put the laptop under such loads...
The temps are high under again... extreme conditions.. i've played AC4 for over 4-5 hours straight while barely feeling any heat (except near the vents). There are laptops which are cooled better but not at the same thickness level...
But the cooling is simply amazing for a laptop this thin....

There i almost no flex on the keyboard and the fan is unbelievably silent...

 

Eh...I'm probably going to wait for the Y51 or Y50p or whatever refresh comes after. Anyone know how long it took for Lenovo to release the refreshs of the Y500/Y510/Y510p?

 

you are confusing the difference between business class and professional class. quadro and firepro are for PROFESSIONAL purposes; you don't need a $5000 card running during a meeting conference. what devdogAZ is saying is more like businessmen want to have something that can play games and be used for normal work

typical gaming notebooks before are characterized as heavy and flashy, something that no one with the suitcase wants to be seen with. as you can see, nowadays gaming rigs are less flashy, going down the thin and light road to attract more potential buyers like the business guys there.

on the hand, quadro/firepro is not for business, you'll probably never a computer in a financial company that has a quadro card in it. those are for professional developments more related to research labs/large media studios like pixar for example.
most individuals can't afford those, regardless of what you do.

even for some professional people, there's not a whole lot of difference
if they want to have something to work temporarily on mobile, then what's the point of spending $2000 more for temporary boost?

quadro just gets drivers dedicated to professional programs and error corrections along with more vram.

the point is, for a company, yes a professional grade gpu would be much better, for individuals? not that much of a difference that would make you want to make $2000 more for

 

Not exactly: Windows 7 Entering Extended Support in January 2015

Still got quite a few years of security updates ahead.

 

They're just ending support to openly modify features. There will still be security patches for at least another 5-7 years. XP security patches continued for 6 years after they stopped developing it.

 

I can vouch for this. I'm an engineer and use CAD all the time. My IT dept supplies us with PCs with Quadro and Firepro cards. While these cards work great, I could certainly get away with not having a Quadro card though. I use Solidworks on my Q550LF all the time and it runs great. Even on integrated graphics, it runs decently. The fact is, Solidworks won't support anything on a system without Quadro and Firepro because they build specifically for those drivers. So if things suddenly don't work, you're on your own.

I had this issue a few years back with my m11x. It had a 540M in it and after a driver update, Solidworks suddenly stopped opening(stuck at the splash screen). The reps couldn't help me because my card was unsupported so my choices were to roll back the driver or use integrated graphics. I bought a Y500 instead.

 

8 months or so. Don't count on any changes until Broadwell or the GT900 series. Both are likely about 9 months away

 

Can the UHD screen resolution be switched to run at 1080 and still appear normal? Just wondering if the UHD version is worth it...

 

ANyone know how to get into the advanced settings in the BIOS? I got into it purely by accident, but I can't think of what I did other than mash F2.

 

what is the proper way of cleaning the soft touch finish of the y50?

 

What options were in the advanced settings? Any hint of disabling Optimus?

 

Try calling Lenovo Tech Support and give it a shot and see if they will tell you.

 

All kinds of voltage adjustments, but also the options that were always available with the BIOS on my old T420, like the ability to disable certain hardware.

Not sure if you're being glib, but I might try.

 

I have the same question. Does anyone know if switching to 1080 on the UHD will prevent DPI scaling problems for programs that people are mentioning?

 

Just use a microfiber cloth... I pick mine up in bulk in Walmart's automotive section. Waste of money to buy "specialty" cleaning clothes. If you need to clean it with some solution...just don't use anything abrasive. Diluted dish washing soap will do...obviously just make the cloth damp don't soak it. I do have some screen cleaning foam that came with my LED TV... I use that one the actually screen if I ever need to clean it. When I run out I'll just what I mentioned earlier. The main thing is the cloth...even 100% cotton t-shirt will work.

 

It's not right now IMO and I own one. Only reason I opted for it is because I got it for $1200 on Amazon... was only $200 more at the time then the FHD Y50. Now it's over $1600 with the same specs... Not enough 4K content, many programs and websites do not scale well right now at all. Text is blurry, etc. I'm running an external 27" FHD IPS monitor and that's good enough for the time being. I'm on the road for my company often and I do enjoy the UHD panel for the limited 4k stuff out there. The 4K YouTube videos are stunning. But when I get home it's back on the FHD monitor.

It depends on how often you upgrade also. I used to get a new laptop every 18 months or so. Now I'm up to just about 3 years. If you upgrade every 18 months or so I'd probably go with the FHD, if you're on my upgrade schedule I'd opt for the UHD if you have the money. Going to be at least a year IMO before 4K content is more prevalent. I can't comment on games because I'm not a gamer...I do photo/video editing and the progs I use work very well with UHD and they can take advantage of the 860.

 

Otacon if you change your screen resolution to 1920 X 1080 do the programs scale well?

 

Everything looks fine at 1920x1080... every program/website is made to run at that. When you go higher is when you run into issues sometimes.

 

Awesome. That was my main concern. I guess I'll just switch to 1080 when using the programs I need gonna be quiet annoying but that's not that bad. The price spiked up for the UHD model. NewEgg has it 1400 it used to be 1300 so I will wait a bit till the prices come down.

 

As with anything the price will come down and I'm sure there will be a new model out in a few months anyway. I'm happy with the specs and don't see a need to upgrade for a long time. Just be putting in a bigger SSD soon.

 

Hey guys, those of you with the UHD and have the "blurry" chrome problem, here is the fix:

Chrome High DPI: How To Enable It In Windows 8, 8.1 (v34+) | Ubergizmo

Use the "Enable >hiDPI" link. It looks incredible.

 

What SSD do you currently have? The model with the 256 SSD UHD model doesn't come with the Samsung Evo I heard. But many people mentioned it's still fast.

 

Lite-On IT Corp LCS-256M6S 256Gb Serial-ATA III 6.0Gbps 2.5-Inch Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

 

I got rid of the D: drive but there's still 4 other partitions on the drive. I plan on keeping the 15.69gb recovery partition but can I delete the other 3?



I'm putting in a 512GB SSD soon and I want to get the drive cleaned up before I clone it.

 

You should not delete the other partitions, they are part of standard Windows UEFI/GPT installations (although they are larger here than I see them on other brands of laptops) and some of them (such as the EFI partition) are required for the system to boot. There is probably even yet another hidden Microsoft Reserved partition (so-called MSR) in front of the Windows partition.

If you clean install in UEFI mode, the same partitions will be created anew (though possible a bit smaller). Except the Lenovo Recovery and OEM partitions, of course.

The following Microsoft articles are good background for anybody with a Win8 laptop who used to install or work on good old BIOS/MBR Win7 or XP computers:

Understanding Disk Partitions
Windows and GPT FAQ

 

Yeah I was just doing some reading....not going to touch them. Thanks..

 

Has anyone else seen this?
Buy Lenovo Y50-70 4K Touchscreen Laptop, Intel Core i7 - Microsoft Store
It's the only model that's both 4K and touchscreen; Lenovo doesn't even seem to sell it. Plus it's cheaper than Lenovo's 4K model without touchscreen.

 

hey guys, was interested in getting the y50 by September....wanted to see if this issue could be resolved....
have a look at this: 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 via HDMI - NotebookCheck.net Tech

while looking at this i thought maybe you could create a virtual device driver which emulates a LCD panel, which is then not limited by software restriction, thus the output goes back into the LCD panel.

GPU/CPU output------> Emulated external display driver/panel-------------> fed back into the LCD panel(may have to use opensource to ensure nothing untoward is happening in the base software layers, lenovo is notorious for black/whitelisting hardware and software)

this would probably take away some fps and put up a gpu/cpu overhead, but we could atleast TEST if the LCD panel actually has an issue or is a software/driver based lock for the 48hz. I tried something similar before in linux (a decade ago), worked with issues, but let us diagnose that the panel was not receiving proper instructions.

also has anyone tried the FPS/ HZ on external displays? you could also simply try mirroring the displays onto the external ones, if the clock is stuck at 48hz on the external ones as well, you may have a software issue, not a hardware one.

anyway just a old computer rat giving his 2 cents.

 

That's very strange that retailers are getting new models before lenovo does themselves lol

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Those are the exact specs as mine but with a touch screen. I got my on Amazon a few days ago... I don't want a touch screen anyway..lol

 

Otacon do you have any micro stuttering when playing games. I see in reviews of the Y50 gameplay many people have micro-stuttering have you experienced anything of that sort?

 

Just curious, would the Lenovo recovery partition revert the laptop to factory state with all that bloatware if used? I'm going to be reinstalling win8 next week when I receive my machine with the 512gb ssd. Was going to allocate 80gb to c drive for the system. How would you recommend allocating the rest of the space?

 

I read that Broadwell laptops will start rolling out this holdiay season.

 

Last I read, that was Broadwell-Y Which is not what we are looking for in a gaming laptop. Everything else is slated for Q1 2015 now.

 

with undervolted CPUs? I don't think people here want that

 

Wow that's a surprise! I wonder if it's accurate - too bad they don't list a model number for reference. Also a shame that it has an SSD and 16GB of RAM, but they only used the 2GB graphics card. Yes I know there's not much right now that would take advantage of a 4GB card, but I'm sure as more 4k content comes as well as future games, that more will be able to take advantage of the extra VRAM.

 

It's accurate - Microsoft store only sells touch enabled laptops. What a bargain for students at $1350

 

That's not true - they sell a lot of non-touch laptops .. You can go to the site and see a lot of them.