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    Y50 Thread

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Jobine, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. fmmsf

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    I don't know of this helps but my sister is an architect. She works with archicad, etc and her pc is a 15,3'' 4200m/geforce730m asus and she's perfectly happy with it
     
  2. greedness

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    The 730m is very far from 860m though or even the r9 m270..
     
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    Idk why y50 is using HM86 motherboard, when all its competitors are using HM87
     
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    Now although it will come with a full SSD option apparently, I would advise not to buy it with one. Aftermarket, you can get one for a lot less.
     
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    By the way guys, does anyone have an idea about the performance difference between R9 M270 and GTX 860m?

    I mean, I know GTX is more powerful however is there any actual data?
     
  9. heibk201

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    r9 m270 is about the same as a 755M, so you know how that's gonna compare to the 860M
     
  10. -Jinx-

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    860m is about on par with gtx770m and SLI 755M.... and about 50-60% more powerfull than the R9 m270

    For exact figures you could always check Notebookcheck.net
     
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    Yeah... VERY disappointing. :(
     
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    What is sacrificed by not having those slots?.. I can't have multiple little SSD's now? Wouldn't buying a 512gb Samsung 840 PRO and using it as the sole drive negate the need for these smaller msata cards? I'm sorry I am not knowledgeable about this. I've been following this thread religiously and I'm trying to learn everything I can.
     
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    I noticed too, but you can work around that with an adapter and a soldering iron ;)
     
  15. greedness

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    Everyone hop on the hype train!
     
  16. heibk201

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    I was just gonna say that. This means we have to swap out the HDD for a SSD now if we want more performance
     
  17. H01D3N

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    Having the m.2 sata slots just make it easy to add an SSD to the laptop.
    Read this for more info-

    M.2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And yeah, this thread is good for learning stuff. Jinx is pretty knowledgeable about part comparisons, look over his posts and you'll learn a lot.
     
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    True. And she's quite happy with it so I would expect there would be no reason for the other architect mentioned on this thread to find the 860m wanting..
     
  19. heibk201

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    well it was a kill joy because of the lack of SSD slot
     
  20. greedness

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    Hype train derailed!
     
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    wait guys I just realized something. Since the y50 has a sub-woofer and it's located very close to the hard drive, wouldn't it cause resonant frequencies and potentially damage a mechanical hard drive?
     
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    The subwoofer on the bottom probably isn't powerful enough to do any damage. I suppose that if it was powerful enough to damage the hard drive, then it would also bounce around whenever you put it on a flat surface and played music. I don't think that Lenovo would make such a big design flaw.

    It's probably more for show than for real performance. Good thinking, though.
     
  23. Zarley Z

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    That doesn't bother me so much. While I'd obviously prefer the ability for mSata / M2, I can live with buying it w/ssd or swapping in aftermarket.

    I'm more concerned with the TN panel. I'm really hoping some of the higher end options, perhaps the one w/touch will have IPS. When considering the 4K display, you'd almost have to wonder what's the point if they're going to bog it down with a TN panel?
     
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    This particular model they tested is probably the lowest spec model (really? i5 and 4GB ram? who do you think we are?), so a TN panel here doesn't really mean much. HOWEVER, if we don't start seeing IPS panels on higher end models, then it may be a problem
     
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    Let's hope that's case, although I'm questioning why they put a subwoofer there when they could've easily fit two mSATA slots instead, ESPECIALLY when there's a chance that the subwoofer can create resonant frequencies with the HDD
     
  26. Fatbot

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    So let me get this straight. Is there really no SSD option for the Y50 at this point? Would other version have a different configuration or is that too expensive?
     
  27. TheMathGuy

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    Since the y40 is "up to 512GB SSD" I would be very surprised if they did not offer a configuration with a 256/512 GB SSD on the y50.
     
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    There apparently will be an SSD option. I don't know if anyone noticed, but a couple hours ago I posted a link to the Lenovo Y-series page- they officially added the Y40 into the lineup. It says "up to 512 GB SSD or 1TB HDD." It will be expensive regardless for an SSD option in a gaming notebook; just get an EVO 840 aftermarket and save money.
     
  29. LanceAvion

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    A mSATA or M.2 port, due to their small size, allow for an additional SSD slot when a traditional 2.5" bay would be too large. For instance in my y400 I have an mSATA slot, so I can currently install 3TB+ of SSD space (1TB mSATA, 1TB 2.5" SSD and another 2.5" SSD in the ultrabay). However if I didn't have the mSATA slot I could only have up to 2TB as there simply isn't enough room for another 2.5" bay.
     
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    The big advantage of the mSATA slot is that it allows you to have the best of both worlds. You can install an mSATA SSD that will hold the OS and most applications. This allows the computer to run very fast. And then you can have a traditional HDD for the large storage capacity. If you only have the one 2.5" slot, then you're forced to choose between SSD and HDD. SSD is obviously faster, but is much more expensive per GB.
     
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  31. DevdogAZ

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    This is the spec table from the Y40/Y50 spec sheet posted earlier, just in case some of you didn't click on that link:

    [​IMG]

    I'm surprised that the touch screen adds a full pound to the weight of the laptop. Is that because the glass is so much heavier? Added electronics?
     
  32. LanceAvion

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    Another thing to note, it seems that the y40 might not have a blacklit keyboard.
     
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    since the Y50 has Intel HD graphics standard, does that mean it can run Solidworks no problem?
     
  35. DevdogAZ

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    So if the rumored base price of $999 is correct, and if that just gets you the base i5, no dGPU, 500 GB HDD, 1920x1080 non-touch screen, no backlit keyboard, etc., I wonder what it's going to cost to get a model with i7-4700, GTX 860m, 256 GB SSD, and backlit keyboard. Those are the specs I'm most interested in. Also, I'd love a 1920 x 1080 IPS panel, but if the only way to get IPS is to go 4k, then I'm not interested since I see no current benefit to the 4k screen and don't feel it will be worth the price premium.
     
  36. ShadowOrso

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    Forget that, if it comes to $999 for that, the laptop is WAAAAAYYYY overpriced. Hell, at this rate, with the price cuts, I might just get a Macbook Air and take my HD 5000 standing.
     
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    I don't think they'd price their i5 model with Intel hd graphics at $999 ... they have z50 (for now z510) with better specs for much lesser.... while the design might be good I doubt Lenovo would charge such a huge premium ...my guess is that the $699 will have an i5 with Intel hd... $999 will definitely have a gpu (850m if not 860m)

    Sent from my LT25i using Tapatalk
     
  38. heibk201

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    I think by now we can pretty much all agree that the base model will have a dgpu. Without a dgpu, it's not even gonna be able to compete against the z series. My guess is that the base model will be like the prototype model in the review with upgraded ram and hard drive
     
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    The other thing i noticed is that the heat pipe on the outside didn't completely reach the cpu on the right but there's an empty slot for the heatpipe. Considering this identical with 5he prototype i5 model shown on the other review page, could this possibly mean that the heatpipe can be extended for the models that come with i7?
     
  40. greedness

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    With the y410p being only $800, I doubt the y40 will be $999 on base model, especially that the amd gpu should be cheaper than nvidia. More like $699 - $1100 for the y40 and about $800 - $1600 for the y50.

    We should play a game, most accurate estimates wins.

    My guess would be :

    y40 base - $700
    y40 mid tier - $950
    y40 top tier - $1,100

    y50 base - $800
    y50 mid tier - $1000
    y50 top tier - $1200

    y50 touch - $1600
     
  41. bva91

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    I'm not sure how long they'll keep the y410p and the y510p coz of all that ultra bay shortage that they faced, not to mention that it'll definitely cannibalize their y40 and y50 sales...

    Sent from my LT25i using Tapatalk
     
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    I don't think so. The price might actually be lower. Someone posted a link to a store quoting an i7-4702HQ, 16GB of RAM (8x2 dual channel?), GTX 860M, 4K panel variant of the Y50 for about 1300 Euros. https://www.digitec.ch/?param=toppreise&wert=302545
     
  43. -Jinx-

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    I don't know why you're surprised...I've mentioned those exact figures several times before and my info was straight out of the mouth of the CES lenovo rep.

    That weight comes from the sheet of glass/digitizer that is the actual "touch" part of the touchscreen.

    On the topic of pricing my best bet is 999$ model will have:

    -I7
    -8gb RAm
    -1Tb SSHD with 8gb integrated cache
    -Gtx860m
    -FullHD non-touch

    Also I'm willing to bet a whole months sallary that there will not be any model with ONLY integrated GPU.

    Since there was a preorder link somewhere showing the 4k model for arround 1300 euro and the 4k is most definetly IPS i will surely go for that one as I hate TN screens.
     
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    I don'T know if anyone's noticed but there is something wrong with their math in weight part. There is 1 lbs difference and that is about 0.4 kg, not 0.2.

    So 4.7 lbs is about 2.1 kg not 2.4, where 5.7 lbs is 2.6 kg as stated.

    I wonder which weight measures are correct for the actual notebook, metric or imperial?
     
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    I believe the metric 2.4 kg is correct...this size laptop for 4.7lbs(2.1 kg)...smells fishy.
     
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    Yeah, probably. And also since imperial weight has given in paranthesis... :)
     
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    I would like to see how long this thread would go before Y50 release...
    The rep told me it will release until 2nd week of May, but the website seemed like it's going out right away~~ :)
     
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    Exciting! The Y40 page now has the tech specs and accessories posted. Feels like the Y50 will be updated any minute now.
     
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    I saw it too, seems like it's coming out tomorrow!!
     
  50. -Jinx-

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    Well since the weight for the y40 is 4.85lbs i guess we know for sure wich is the correct weight for the y50(metric)
     
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