Y50 Thread

I know that it's undervolted, but it's pretty cheap for them to not use at least an i7-4700MQ for those of us who needs some raw processing.

SSD is great, but 512GB is not.

As for DDR3L, I've tried it, and the only difference it gave is 5 mins of extra battery.

And if you checked the link, MSI is cheaper.

Although I guess having support would be great for drivers and stuff.


My bottom line is, they could've done a lot better. Unless they make any changes with it, I'd go for the msi or gigabyte P34G v2

 

Seems like Lenovo has taken the Y50 page offline and hopefully that means we can buy it soon. The primary reason I am buying this laptop is for the 4K display.

For those of you planning to buy the Y50 with a 1080P display, why did you pick the Y50 over anything else available? Just trying to figure out what else about this laptop is so exceptional...

 

The lowest model is the one with the 1TB 5400rpm HDD, not the one with the 256gb SSD. The only reason the SSD one has the lowest price right now is because the actual base model is not being discounted at this time. What you're calling the "lowest model" is actually $1399 with a $300 discount. The lowest model is actually $1149 for the time being.

Oh yeah, and I don't agree. This is NOT a good deal. It's the gag price for the early adopters and gotta-haves.

 

Interesting that in various CES videos (like this one here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9ZJosjp9Qs), the Y40 is shown with an edge-to-edge gloss screen, but yet all models currently offered are anti-glare w/bezel.

I may be in the minority here, but I actually prefer the gloss and am hoping the Y50 has some glossy offerings. A bit concerned though since the Y40 went from gloss to seemingly none at all.

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-760M.92068.0.html

Notebookcheck says the gtx760m and 8870m are on par with stock drivers.

Leshcat custom drivers make the 8870 get 5-10% extra FPS in most games

" In our tests with a quad-core of the Haswell generation, the GTX 760M performs on par with aGTX 670MorRadeon HD 8870M"

That would make the r9 270m clearly above gtx760m.

 

The Y50 is at the top of my shortlist because no one else offers a capable gaming laptop with a touchscreen. The Asus N550JV-DB72T Touch comes close, but with the arrival of the 800 series nvidia chips, I don't want to invest in a last gen model and get stuck with it for the next 5 years. A barebone Clevo P150 is my runner-up, but it doesn't have touchscreen.

 

The CES model had touchscreen ...that's why it had edge to edge glossy glass.

 

The Y40 at CES wasn't touch. If you watched the video I linked, the speaker demonstrates (around the 1:55 mark) that it isn't touch despite being glossy.

 

Agree. I think one month later, the 'deal' will be like saving $400.

 

Same here, a nice touchscreen is the main draw and the possibility of Lenovo delivering it at $1500. I'd accept (and assume honestly) a 5400 rpm HDD with maybe a 24gb cache. Otherwise I'm looking at the GS60, but with mixed reports on build quality I'd have to ask in the forum about everyone's experience with it. If I was budgeting $1500 or less though I don't know what else would be in the running.

 

Thats what I said as well- its similar to the GTX 850M. I don't remember what page it was but I posted the notebookcheck of the 887o a while ago I think. I agree with the slightly above the 760M- the R9 M270 is actually pretty good.

 

If you want a Maxwell 860M, you have limited choices. If you want "ultrabook" type form factor, that limits you even more (takes Clevo/Sager and the MSI GE60 off the list). Top of my list to consider is the Y50 and the Gigabyte P34G V2, I'm not aware of any other models that can compare.

 

Free shipping with Lenovo- I factored that into pricing. It's the same price, give or take 20 bucks. Idk how you guys play games, but I don't load up my hard drive with games. I play one through and get rid of it.

 

A better option than the N550JV is the new N550JK-DS71T (currently being sold at Amazon for $1099, but it's already dipped to around $1050 a few times: Amazon.com: ASUS N550JK-DS71T 15.6-Inch Touchscreen Laptop: Computers & Accessories. It has the 800 series chip you're looking for (850m) and the 1080p touch display. It's my current fallback if things don't work out with the Y50 pricing/feature-wise. But I'm betting/hoping that the Y50 will ultimately be the better buy.

 

Sorry I can't watch youtube on my current connection.
My bad then...I can't be right all the time

 

I'm in the same boat, Fatbot. I want something portable but powerful, and I'm not willing to pay 2K+ for something like the RazerBlade. Lowest GS60 model is 1700 on Newegg (but bad reports on build quality and the touchpad have been trickling in), the Y50 should be 1500 or less (and Lenovo tends to have very good build quality, though the Y510p left something to be desired), and I've heard noise complaints about the Gigabyte (and I really am unsure about the brand), but those are top on my list. Just waiting on the specs of Y50 before I buy.
For reference, I'm a graduate student who works with computationally and graphically expensive programs (but I can't afford a Quadro card), does some gaming when I have time, and only owns one computer. Basically I want it all for cheap.

 

how does the Y40s r9 270 compare with the Y50s 860M?

 

How did I miss that?? It's basically everything I want (except the 850). Thanks for the heads up! That's now my fallback too. Lenovo better get the Y50 pricing right, because while I would love the 860, even an 850 is worlds better than what I have now. Not to mention 3 usb 3.0 ports AND an optical drive for $1100! And I already like, trust, and own Asus.

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Yea, and the OS is not included too.. I guess I just expected too much from it...

 

Thanks for that info! The Asus looks phenomenal so what's the catch? Just that it's a stock looking laptop? Newegg has it for 1,060.00 if you don't mind taking your chances with them. I'd probably pay 500 more for more RAM, UHD, and a better card but that's pretty much my limit.

 

The catch is ...it has the weak version of the gtx850m...the one with DDR3.

Other than that it's a pretty perfect laptop.

If it had 850m with GDDR5 i would have bought it already and replaced the optical drive with a caddy and SSD...especially since the screen is IPS and pretty damn good at that.

 

I forgot to mention that it also has the Intel 7260 AC, as opposed to just the N in the N550JV. The touch panel is also glossy IPS and frankly, gorgeous, as I've seen it on similar ASUS models. For me, since you have no choice but to get it with the 1TB 5400rpm HDD and only 8GB of ram, it's really going to come down to cost of upgrading to SSD / 16GB vs the Y50 offerings and cost.

It seems no company has been able to put that perfect slim gaming laptop together yet in that sweet spot price range of under $1500. If somehow the N550JK, Y50, and MSI GS60 could have a 3-way and birth a child.. we'd have (at least in my opinion) the best of all worlds with display, looks, features, form factor, and price.

 

Corporate job by day, game dev by night. I worked in the game industry for years but it was too volatile for a family. I'm working on a Kinect game and need a machine for development that has some portability.

 

Totally agree.

IMO the perfect gaming laptop would look like the y50 with the y50 GPU but have an additional msata slot like the GS60 and the touchscreen on the N550

Like it is now the y50 is missing the msata and has a TN screen, the n550 has a too weak GPU and the MSI has iffy build quality and the kepler 860m not to mention the huge price

 

Sure thing. You actually repaid the favor by finding it on newegg. Until now they didn't have it, but I hoped they would eventually so I could buy it taxless if need be. Now that that's lined up, the balls in Lenovo's court to get the Y50 right.

 

Hmm, not surprising. That's the "stock" I was thinking of as this machine is still probably supposed to sell in a few retail locations. So, these may be basic questions but...

-is the DDR3 really impactful in performance?
-if the optical was pulled does the drive slot allow for an SSD in it's place? How does stuff like that work?
-is it worth it to have a company like XOTIC just do it for you?

 

Sounds like a potential y51p

 

I think the Gigabyte P34G V2 is close to perfect from a features perspective, however it's a little expensive. It has a better cooling system than the Y50 (dual fan), and they fixed the fan issues from the V1. It has 2 drawbacks, besides price - touchpad performance is not great, and the build materials (a little too much plastic) could have been improved. I would have pulled the trigger on it already, but I'm going to try to be patient and see how the Y50 shakes out.

 

ddr3 ram and ddr3l ram has NO difference. All haswell MOBILE processors REQUIRE 1.35v DDR3L ram. Just some manufacturers dont state it since it doesn't really matter to the consumers.
The amd 8870m doesnt even come close to a gt 755m, let alone a gtx 760m.
AMD Radeon HD 8870M - NotebookCheck.net Tech
NVIDIA GeForce GT 755M - NotebookCheck.net Tech
Look at the gaming fps yourself and decide if the 8870m is still better than a 760m.

The y40 will not replace the y410p. It seems to not even target the same audience. Gamers will still buy the y410p and replace the ssd or simply get an m.2 one.

 

Here's notebookcheck saying :

" In our tests with a quad-core of the Haswell generation, the GTX 760M performs on par with aGTX 670M or Radeon HD 8870M"

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-760M.92068.0.html

The difference in fps is only in some games...it's normal since some games favor radeon and some games geforce.

As I said earlier notebookcheck only tests with stock drivers.

That means leshcat's custom drivers will only tilt the result in favor of the 8870m

I do agree however that the y40 and y410 are not catering to the same audience.

 

How quiet it is ? If I remember well the p34g was a *pain* for the ears.

 

Yes the ddr3 on the 850m really does impact performance.

Yes you can replace the optical drive with a caddy adaptor inside witch you can fit a SSD

DEFINETLY YES it's worth it to let XOTIC do it for you since you are not technically inclined or knowledgeable.

 

Though I understand the N550 comes with DDR3, its performance exceeds the 765M so that makes it no slouch. Yeah it could have been even better with DDR5 but I wouldnt categorize the 850M DDR3 as a weak GPU.

Notebookcheck has reviewed the DDR3 version of the 850M and the results are pretty surprising and seems like the Maxwell architecture is much more efficient than Kepler.

Check the below link to see the 850M DDR 3 benchmarks.

Review Clevo W650SJ (Schenker M504) Barebones Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

 

Notebookcheck puts the 8870 almost as second class card... it is 10% slower than the old gtx675m... lenovo s%@^# this one an U Intel processor and this amd card... I was considering it but now I am back to the Blade...

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Hype train got derailed. Me, Im going for the Gigabyte P34G v2 if nothing gets change in the specs or in the price at least in the next couple of weeks.

 

Check out the Gigabyte forum, there are a couple of people that have the notebook now that have given an overview, including teardown pictures. Overall it seems pretty quiet, even under load.

 

some guy asked on fb

 

What was the lowest price for the y50? I'd buy it for 1000 bucks if it has the nvidia chip ..

 

eh? It was a "topic" where Lenovo is trying to show his y40...and a guy asked about the y50 on the comments section.
https://www.facebook.com/lenovo/pho...27678194634/10152203528819635/?type=1&theater

 

The Y40 is supposed to come with an AMD card when it was showed in CES. I have no idea what GPU you were expecting the Y40 to have when you were "considering" it.

If there's anything to complain it's definitely not the GPU since it is just like what we're to expect from what we've seen in those CES videos, an AMD R9 M270.

 

Yes, we were expecting the m270, but we're definitely not expecting anything above $1000 for it.

 

I wasn't expecting a lenovo so didn't follow it on CES, just after I saw the Blade price I started looking around... and I expected it to be like last year's when both the 5 and 4 models had pretty much same specs... but this year they are different classes... but don't get mad at me... anyone knows what is good for them, and this setup is not nearly what I want, the y50 is but I want the smallest lightest and more powerful I can get and the price well the blade is the ceiling so back to it... cheers

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It's above $1000 because it has a 256GB SSD, which isn't really anything to complain about. Given the choice, most people would prefer the SSD over the 1TB 5400 rpm HD in the base model. The base model without the SSD will get to below $1000 soon, they just haven't gotten around to getting the "discount" right on the website.

 

heads up guys! y40 is now available in lenovo website!



to tell you honesly, i'm kinda disappointed. the y40 starts at a thousand bucks! now how much do you think the y50 will be? also with the processor. all models have the Core i7-4500U which is a ulv cpu. i really really really hope the y50 won't have the same ulv cpu. fingers-crossed the y50 won't be going the same path as y40. or i'm still gonna be sticking with my y500.

 

You should read the last 10 pages.

 

Im not complaining at all, but it just feels that $1000 isnt worth it for me that I'd rather pay $400 - $600 more for some other 14" laptop with better specs.

 

I wouldn't fall back on that computer. I've had bad experiences with the previous gen of that. Keyboard flex? Through the roof. Driver issues too. Also, Asus' trackpads aren't that great. The specs are good though.

It's not a bad computer, but I wouldn't consider it to be in the same class as the Y50.

 

Well.. I'm certainly not as knowledgeable as this crowd but I guess more importantly I just wanted to understand how much the markup was on having a seller make the modification for me. I'f rather just pay someone 30 bucks to switch parts and migrate the OS over rather than spend half the day doing it myself. Plus, I've build a few PCs before but never really messed with a laptop other than ram upgrades.

So, my next question would be does XOTIC match Newegg and other manufacturers? Do they charge tax (shipping appears to be free).

 

If the Y40 (16gb ram, amd r9 270m 4gb) is costing 1650$, then i think the Y50 (4k, touch, and gtx 860m, 16gb ram) will be probably around 1799-1999$.

 

It seems from the last few pages that people didn't expect the Y40 to be over $1000. If you think about the specs, that's actually really reasonable for the specs. Sure, there are better gaming laptop deals out there, but you won't get an ultraportable one like the Y40 for that price.

Also, for the people who have joined this thread in the last couple of days-
I know there are a lot of new posters on here. Lots of questions that you might have are in the last 155 pages, so if you check the older posts rather than posting questions for now, you will probably get more answers faster. Its just that today is a big day for the Y-series and we've filled like 20 pages of the thread today, so you probably won't get your questions answered quickly.