Y50 Thread

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Heck yea
sub $1300 with 4k display

 

Try finding one and post a link.

 

I already did.

 

You are right. 14 inch laptop, Y40 is good. Razor is much better, but way expensive


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I wouldn't bank on $850. I'm thinking $999.

 

Not really fair to compare the price of an off-brand laptop from a manufacturer of questionable quality that's got a $100 off promo code and a $100 off MIR with the price of a brand-new model from a very reputable brand that isn't even released yet and doesn't have the typical discounts applied yet.

Does Switzerland not use Euros? For other products that sell for 1,599 Francs, what do those products typically cost in the US? Anyway, I really like the specs listed for that model. That appears to be the top-of-the-line configuration except for the HDD, which is fine since it's almost always cheaper to buy an SSD yourself. It would be awesome if that configuration that's 1,599 Francs translated into something like $1400-1500.

 

So they're doing a $200-$300 discount on the other models but you think the most they'll do on the base model is a $150 discount? On what do you base that speculation? In my (admittedly limited experience), they're just as likely to put the big discounts on the lower-end models as well.

 

No you didn't. Not in the parameters.

It starts at $1079. It has a 1TB HDD. It only comes with 4 GB ram standard (8 GB on this "special deal" thing). It only has b/g/n wireless. Plus it's not a thin-and-light.

 

So you've never heard of Clevo? Get outta here.

Most of the boutiques run constant "rebates" just like the Lenovo website.

 

On the Y510p and Y410p, the base models have a smaller discount than some of the higher end models. If they were to drop every price by $200, it would create drastic price differences between models, making a customer more likely to go for one model than another. If they keep every model in a $50-$100 price gap, they can get customers to think, "hey, maybe I should get the next level model up." It's just marketing tactics that companies use.

 

Don't the Lenovos start at over a grand too? I see you've conveniently ignored the much stronger CPU & GPU...

Not thin-and-light my butt. Look at the dimensions. It's a Clevo W230SS. More "thin-and-light" than the Y40.

 

My y50 only cost:


https://www.google.com/#q=7999 CNY to USD

 

I'm just gonna put this out there:
I don't think that we all have to worry about pricing. Lately, new Lenovo models have been doing a "build your own" customization method. I think that is why it is taking a while for the Y50 to go up and it took no time at all to put the Y40 up. The Y50 has a ton of options, and it would take waaayyyy too many models to be able to offer different combinations.

Third-party retailers can't do build to order most of the time, so they will end up getting certain models of the laptop. This accounts for the different screenshots of webpages posted on here.

 

Lenovo has really good build quality on thinkpads. Ideapad doesn't really get any above average builds but they are just like other brands

 

1.28"? That's really thick.
Clevo W230SS Notebook Spec

You won't notice any performance gain from that CPU over a 4700MQ, for example. Heck, put it up against the 4500U and it still won't be the bottleneck. The HDD is too slow to do anything- its the real bottleneck. The SSD in the Y40 is really useful.

 

why not just wait for the y50...

 

This website said "pre-order" in 7999 Yuan (1277 US$). It doesn't say that the price is 7999. I am Chinese and I also need to point out this website is not very reliable. It is like a junky version of "ebay" in China. So plz don't trust the information on this website. ALTHOUGH, I wish it was true.

 

The build quality you can definitely question, but the looks of the Y series? IMO the Y series is the coolest looking gaming notebook style out there.

 

Thicker but smaller in other dimensions. And lighter. And doesn't overheat (read HTWingNut's review).

i7 is worlds away from ULV (more than twice as fast). 860M is twice as fast as M270.

HDD doesn't affect FPS in games. You can upgrade yourself or configure a barebones with SSD for same price as Y40 w/SSD.

 

In case it matters to anyone, it looks like the Y40 power brick is about 1/2 to 3/4 of the size of the previous one.

 

We don't know if the Y40 will cool well or not yet. And actually, it being smaller in L x W means that it is really disproportional in terms of thickness. I wouldn't compare the size of a 13.3 inch laptop with the size of a 14 inch laptop, IMO. Yeah, the QC i7 is a lot better in performance, but in gaming you won't notice it. Other factors will come into play before the processor does.

The HDD does effect FPS in games where the game "loads-as-it-goes." If you preload the entire map, you won't notice lag, but in open world, graphics intensive games like GTA it will have a large impact.

If you are comparing the two models like that, you are saying that you can get a 256 GB SSD for $99. I can't find deals like that, I don't know about you.

Just my opinion though.

 

There are a lot of games where you will notice the difference in CPU performance, to say nothing of the massive gulf in GPU power. And the ULV's are so gimped, I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy.

 

ok that's just false, there's no way they would sell it for a cheaper price in China

 

Actually I beg to differ on that statement. When I owned the y500, the stock 5400 rpm HDD made some games FPS actually dip due to access time on loading some levels/ cinematic events. So in theory the GPU and CPU Powers our games, but the HDD sends textures and other graphically information to the ram which in turn can affect FPS.

 

That's stutter/hitching/freezing not low FPS.

 

I'm sorry but did you happen to quote the wrong quote?

 

All three of the aforementioned problems affect FPS.

 

Yeah it was for Octiceps but his post vanished,

 

It's like I said before:
I don't think that we all have to worry about pricing. Lately, new Lenovo models have been doing a "build your own" customization method. I think that is why it is taking a while for the Y50 to go up and it took no time at all to put the Y40 up. The Y50 has a ton of options, and it would take waaayyyy too many models to be able to offer different combinations.

Third-party retailers can't do build to order most of the time, so they will end up getting certain models of the laptop. This accounts for the different screenshots of webpages posted on here.

 

Ok yeah. I totally agree with you. When the game doesn't preload (many games don't), the hangup is on the HDD. Since an SSD is so much faster, its really valuable to have in the Y40/Y50.

 

Ok guys here are somethings that you all need to understand.

First, the Y40 is currently a NEW model. The starting price will be somewhat expensive as it's just released and they need to provide some time to get rid of their old models like the 410 and 510. The price will MOST LIKELY drop within a few months since they are going to put on their usual sales and add more spec options. You'll just have to wait and see. I'm pretty sure Lenovo isn't stupid enough to not drop prices if they don't see their sales going well.

Second, don't come up with the taobao bs. Taobao is like ebay except even less reliable, and there's no way Lenovo would sell things that cheap in China because 1. in China, corporation pay sales tax instead of consumers, so prices have to higher 2. Lenovo is not as cheap as it is here in China. No one knows for sure what the pricing of Y50 will be yet

 

As for raw power, I totally agree with you. They aren't great. But what they are great at is battery conservation and for less heat. Although I am surprised that they put it in instead of the 4700MQ, it's probably for the better considering the Y40's form factor.

 

But stutter lag is a separate issue from graphics lag and doesn't affect all games while underpowered CPU & GPU lowers frame rate in all games. SSD is easy to upgrade, CPU & GPU aren't possible because they are both soldered.

 

Which brings us to the point where the Y40 is a better deal because you can't find a 256 GB SSD for the balance of $99.

 

Wait so twice the GPU power and more than twice the CPU power don't count for anything?

ATM Y40 w/SSD is still costlier than W230SS w/SSD even disregarding the above. Taking that into account just destroys it as a value proposition.

 

wait when did lenovo start doing the customization thing...? on what models?

 

My Personal Predictions for the Y50

- Fully customizable from Lenovo
- HDD base model, SSD models available up to 512 GB
- Option to buy either the 2 GB or 4 GB version of the GTX 860M
- 4K is only a touchscreen option
- No backlit keyboard unless you pay a premium
- Choice of wireless card
- Base model at $999
- CPU options: U series or HQ series, no MQ series available
- Screen options: non-touch will have standard matte screen, no glossy on non-touch

Any thoughts?

 

Most recently? The X1 Carbon. They do it on most laptops with a bunch of options, except for the Essential series.

 

Maybe not $99, but close Newegg.com - PNY Optima SSD7SC240GOPT-RB 2.5" 240GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

 

I'm looking at the Xplorer X3 right now on CyberPowerPC's site, and with their customization options its more than the Y40 with the SSD. Where are you looking at the pricing?

It isn't twice the GPU power. The R9 M270 is about the same power as a GT 755M. The GTX 860M is about the same as the SLI GT 755M. The SLI GT 755M is about 1.6 times as fast as the single GT 755M. Therefore, the GTX 860M should only be about 1.6x as powerful as the R9 M270, which should be able to play games on high/ultra anyway (assuming the target FPS is ~30).

Again, the CPU power you won't notice in gaming when the bottleneck is on the HDD. To quote Jinx, Intel's mobile processors are way ahead of any mobile GPUs right now; they shouldn't be a problem.

 

Nice find, that's a great option if you get the HDD model of the Y40.

 

There's also a fairly cheap mSATA of a the same capacity for those interested: Amazon.com: MyDigitalSSD 256GB (240GB) 50mm Bullet Proof 4 BP4 50mm mSATA Solid State Drive SSD SATA III 6G - MDMS-BP4-240: Computers & Accessories

 

that means there won't be any web discounts if it's like the x1c...

 

Will the Y50 page be up today or tomorrow?

 

Cause "numpad"

 

you are one of the few who actually dislike number pads

 

I'm not a fan either. I've resigned myself to take one since I like the 15.6" screen size, but the fact that it makes the alphanumeric keys off-center bothers me.

 

The Y50 is here!

Lenovo Y50 Laptop | 15.6" High-Performance Gaming Notebook PC | Lenovo (US)

 

This. I just can't see it coming in with 860m and 4k display for $1300. I think we should all hope for $1500.

You sir are dirty.

For me, good thermals, low idle noise, decent keyboard, and above average trackpad for under $1650 and im sold (That is for max spec model - 4k, backlit, 860m, and 256gb ssd).

 

Whoah! 799 starting price with dgpu and i7? An even better value than the sagers.