Y50 Thread

1. Someone has already linked to the labyrinth of Kepler and Maxwell configurations so it's still an issue of trust on whether Lenovo reps know what's up. Lenovo updated their specs to specifically call out Maxwell as the chip type so that may be the end of it but it's hard to say whether Maxwell is in both the 2gb and 4gb config imo.

2. 4k screen is supposed to be announced mid May but at this point I believe an impressive price point seems unlikely. If they offer both touch and non-touch 4k configs there may be something cool.

4. 4 weeks wait is pretty common as a default time with new higher end products and Lenovo. You might find that certain configs have less time than others if you call or ask a rep.

I'm still looking at the Asus as well, though it's more of a budget model and personally I'd pull the optical and put in an SSD. Also in this thread are comparisons of the Asus 850 DDR3 and 860 and 870. The 850 isn't bad by any means but the others are considerably faster for more money so it comes down to budget and need for more GPU performance.

 

XOTIC PC | GIGABYTE P35Gv2-CF2 - 15.6" Ultra-Thin Gaming Notebook

 

Ah...not bad, but I want to see some temps and how loud it is.

 

I AM NOT TELLING YOU ANYTHING!
I only copy-pasted this straight from the Tech Specs. Go check it out yourselves.
I'd say wait for actual review or something, because haven't we learned not to trust anything they put on that web page or anything the reps say???

 

I've been nagging lenovo reps, and my most recent information is this:

1. All video cards are Maxwell.
2. The 512gb SSD is Sandisk.

Can anyone speak to the quality of Sandisk SSD's? Would a casual computer user be able to tell a difference between Sandisk and a 840 evo? Thank you for the insights.

 

If it is in fact Maxwell, I'm going with Y50. I don't need touchscreen, 4k, IPS display etc and neither do you, you just don't know it yet
The only thing is they're saying it ships in 3-4 weeks so a month to receive it in my hands. I'm pretty sure it said 10-12 days when it first released

 

That $1449 model sounds perfect now that it's Maxwell doesn't it Damn... need to finish an exam before I can place the order lol....meanwhile awaiting your review

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don't know if they're also good with SSDs, but they excel on making memory sticks for PSP..
they're our best option aside from the memory sticks from sony itself.

 

For those considering the p35g v2 I would probably go with the p34g v2 as it has the maxwell 860 compared to Kepler in p35. That said, if the y50 indeed has maxwell in all models, it would be an interesting decision between the p34g v2 vs the y50. P34g v2 does have avha panels, which I believe are essentially the exact same as IPS, while the y50 (as I believe so far) has TN panels.

Also, what exactly is the point of a 4k screen exactly? There is no way in hell you'd be able to play games in 4k with any sort of decent fps with an 860m. You'd need at least an 880m, probably 880m in sli for efficient fps

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CPU based games should be playable at 4K.

 

It seems the battle is between the Lenovo Y50 vs. Gigabyte P34g V2 vs. Asus N550JK

I'm stuck between the Y50 and the Asus N550JK because I want the touch screen. Is an overclocked 2GB DDR3 GTX850m (by XoticPC) better than or on par with GDDR5 GTX860m (Kepler, Maxwell)?
Will the 4k TN panel be better with viewing angles than the FHD IPS panel of the Asus?

 

TN will never have better viewing angles than IPS.

 

I don't know about you guys, but I am always working on the internet when using my laptop. Is the AC 3160 on the y50 a deal breaker since most of its competitors carry the AC 7260, or is the difference barely noticeable/ only detectable when downloading huge files?

 

Not a leading brand like Intel/Samsung, but still pretty decent. No, you wouldn't see the difference between the Sandisk and an Evo.

 

This means although 3160 can use both 2.4GHz and 5GHz, it can only use one at a time instead of both

 

i don't think 880m SLI can even handle it.
saw a video of someone gaming with 4k. his rig got 2 top dual gpu config of amd.
if I get it right, he's using 4 top models of gpu with amd.

and his other config was a GTX Titan in SLI.

 

I am sure you need Titan Z x 2 to put newer games on Ultra setting at 4K for 60 fps...

 

If you get the 4K screen just game at 1920x1080. It will look slightly blurrier than native 1080p but it should be fine. If you think about it, it's actually a bit of free antialiasing.

 

Is there a photo comparison of this? I'm not sure whether I want 4k or not because I'm gonna be photo editing, but also gaming a lot.

 

Thanks for that.I think i'm just going to buy the Asus though i would love to get the black version. 3-4 weeks wait time is not possible for me.

I will have to make do with the 850M for some gaming. Hopefully the N550JK isn't too bad looking compared to the Y50. Here's to hoping i don't regret it.

 

There will be a cheaper(supposely) reatiler version coming soon for the Toshiba laptop.
The advantage will be Toshiba laptop has more accurate color, and you have IPS LED screen for sure.
The disadvantage is you need to replace that hybrid HDD.
They also ship hyper-fast, only took 2 days from the day I ordered to my doorstep, free shipping too.
Replace that stupid hybrid drive was not easy, but it was well worth it.

 

AC 3160 is a slightly nerfed version of 7260 AC but as there was a wireless card upgrade for y510p, I believe they would also have ac 7260 for the y50 later when more models come out

 

Wow, been awhile since I've touched this thread, but good to see that the Y50 is now on sale. Will be looking forward to reviews to see how well it performs (mostly the cooling and if indeed that is a Maxwell card running the GPU side of things).

 

Same here, I can't wait 3-4 weeks + delivery time.
I think I'm gonna try to get the Stealth Pro.

 

Same, If is a crap, I will turn my head to Asus G750, that beast.,.,.,

 

Guys, you don't need two titan Zs to play games @ ultra 4K.

Two 780tis or two r9 290/290xs will power a 4k display and max out the majority of games. Crysis 3 maxed out at 4k will be very hard to drive, even with some of the most powerful gpu setups. GPU technology simply isn't good enough to push that many pixels on a demanding game. Multiple GPU configurations do not scale linearly, and for most games a third or fourth gpu makes little performance increase, and will sometimes decrease performance.

 

Am I reading this right and there's a black version of the ASUS N550JK being released? If so can you please provide a link with the info? Thanks!

 

Guys, since my budget is little tight, seems i will be choosing either the y40 or the older y510p model, which one do you think should i get ? how does the r9 m270 compare to the 755 SLI?

 

So am I right in saying that overall the high end y50 is a better deal at 1449 than the Ghost GS60 at 1600 with more ram, a bigger SSD, and a Maxwell GPU? They are both 1080p TN panels, right? The downside is the Y50 only has a single HDD slot.

 

Pretty sure the ghost is IPS. Ghost is also noticeably lighter and has more than 1 storage option. I do think the ghost is overpriced though. The clevo w230ss and the gigabyte p34g v2 are better comparisons imo

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Yes, when the Y50 was first listed, the $1349 and $1449 models said 10-12 business days, but they must have had pretty good response and so now the supply they can provide in 10-12 days is spoken for.

 

Looks like it's called the G550JK:

https://www.asus.com/us/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/G550JK/

 

The Razer Blade 14 can push many games at 1800p with the 870M. It's not out of the question some selection of them may be playable at 4K with 860M.

At the very least you can photo edit at 4K and play your games upscaled from 1080p with no problem.

 

Damn that looks sexy, whats the difference between the N550JK and that one other than touch?

 

This thread has been incredibly helpful, thank you guys! I have a question for you knowledgeable folk:

Assuming that money isn't an issue, what are the existing options that meet these criteria:

Requirements:
- 14" or 15"
- At least 1080p
- Dedicated GPU
- Touchscreen
- Quad core CPU (no ULV)

Characteristics, in order of importance
- Fast GPU
- High quality screen (e.g. IPS)
- Thinness

I'm not concerned about other features.

What are my options?

Thanks!

 

In fact there's not much difference in speed you can see in all the SSDs on the markets. Most of them are pretty similar in performance, it's just about the price/size/reliability

 

4K means - nice 4K resolution when not gaming (web browsing, etc), drop down to 1080p when gaming.

1080p x 4 = 4K, so it should be easy to scale to the screen. Your 4K screen will just use 4 pixels when gaming at 1080p. I don't know how well it works in practice but it should be simple.

Windows still has trouble with ultra high resolutions, but they are supposed to be fixing that soon.

 

uh no 4k is 3840x2160 which is 4 times of 1920x1080 not 1080x4...

 

The y50 $1299 model has pretty much all you asked for except the ips display... a it has a tn panel...

Couple of options are the gigabyte p34g v2P35g v2 and the msi gs60 (no touchscreen)...

Asus n550jk/ Asus n550Gk(black apparently) ... no touchscreen..slightly weaker gpu

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#1 Y50
+ 15.6"
+ 1080p, 4k will be available mid to end of May.
+ 10pt Touch Screen
+ i7-4700HQ
- 4GB GPU is Kepler while 2GB GPU is Maxwell (This is speculation, reps are unreliable, waiting for full reviews and benchmarks)
- TN Panel doesn't have good viewing angles and lacks saturation compared to the vibrant and good viewing angles of an IPS.
+ Pretty thin, but not ultrabook thin (Razer Blade and MSI GS60 ghost is thinner)
- From my experience, trackpad is terrible on the Y series, not sure if they improved the trackpads at all

#2 Asus N550JK (The one I'm leaning towards)
+ 15.6"
+ FHD 1080p
+ 10pt Touch Screen
+ i7-4700HQ Haswell
+ IPS Panel with fantastic viewing angles and vibrant color saturation
+ GTX850m 2GB is nice and when overclocked (+135) on par with default GTX860m
+ Great ventilation with dual fan system
- Not very thin, but average height 1,1inch height.
- DDR3 GPU. not GDDR5
+ Comes with an external Subwoofer so above average sound on a laptop (Bang and Olufsen well renowned sound brand)

#3 GS60 Ghost
+15.6"
+ 1080p, with a 3k option available
- No touch screen
+ i7-4700HQ Haswell
+ 2GB GDDR5 GTX 860m Kepler
+ IPS panel with fantastic viewing angles and vibrant color saturation
+ Dual Fan system, but still gets pretty hot after 2hrs
+ One Thinnest 15" gaming laptop

 

Tip: Don't buy ANY Lenovo product until it is put "on sale".

 

when is the 4gb version kepler? I'm pretty sure after our long discussion in the past 5 pages shows that it is very unlikely(impossible) that they switched chips for different vram amounts and even on the y50 tech spec column it shows maxwell

 

Isn't it on sale right now with couple hundred dollars discount on each of the models?

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Its under speculation, the reps people have talked to aren't very reliable so I would await official benchmarks or reviews to make sure.

 

You should have said that it MIGHT be Kepler since it will be MOST LIKELY be a Maxwell and only a low possibility that it might be a Kepler. The way you are saying it are telling people that it will most likely be a Kepler.

 

I have made a lot of comparisons in my post, I don't know which one you are talking about. But the most important comparison is Lenovo with itself. I am not talking about performance-wise across two different generations, but Lenovo laptops' value. Lenovo Y series used to be GREAT in value for a gaming laptop, even better than Clevo. Many Chinese hate Lenovo because they can't get that value from Lenovo in China; Lenovo only sells their laptop at great prices in the USA. I think the Lenovo had done a fantastic job in making y510p a very capable gaming machine, but I am disappointed with their pricing/positioning of the y50. Of course the y510p had its faults and I totally agree y50 is better due to the single GTX card. So overly I don't really get your point.

 

Unlikely, but you never know what pc manufactures can do......MSI has the Kepler version of the 860m, and Lenovo didn't even bother to install an n2 socket in their non-ssd y510ps. Sometimes I just don't get what these companies are thinking.

 

Exactly! Lenovo aiming for ultra-thin notebooks but its kind of a slimed down version of the y510p due to the abandoning of the ultra bay. People might still consider it to be reasonably priced compared with Razer or MSI (me too), but this notebook just lost its awe in the huge performance/pricing ratio of its predecessor.

 

Just one thing, the 1080p panel on the GS60 is not IPS.

 

Nice how you laid it all out. Thanks. Your #1 and #2 are the same as mine, only switched for the time being. I guess my #3 is still the Clevo P150, but I really am determined to get a touchscreen at this point.

Some people are having a hard time understanding you're not losing anything by having a touchscreen, only gaining. You don't have to use it, it does add a bit more weight, but for me- it's better to have and not need than to need it and not have it. Same with the optical drive: I'm still debating whether I could stomach a $1300 notebook that I couldn't watch my blurays on conveniently. Not hearing many impressive things about the 850M in the N550JK, so the 860M in the Y50 is really tempting me.