Y50 Thread

not 4k

how is noise with dual fans btw? and when overclocked...

no ssd option so you have to build it urself? possibly guaranty void

 

We still don't know that the Y50 with 4G VRAM is Maxwell and not Kepler. And we don't know if the G550JK really comes in GDDR5 variant.

And none of the comparisons above include weight - 5.7lbs Touch Y50 (the only Lenovo-"confirmed" Maxwell Y50 variant so far) is significantly heavier than the 4.4lbs GS60.

 

I'm guessing most people asking for 4k or touchscreen are not really true gamers.

 

or not gamers at all..

 

as I said before, you don't know what you are talking about and your arguments either are blatantly wrong or makes no sense[/QUOTE]

You clearly don't know about gaming......True gamers will never choose a manufacture installed ssd. Hell they won't even choose to game on a laptop unless absolutely have to because of work or college. If you want any advice on how to get a deal on powerful pc or if you are not from Lenovo, listen to true gamers.

 

I say again, installing a ssd into your computer DOES NOT void your warranty. It is what most hardware enthusiast would prefer.

 

really? so you are saying every gamer who gets razer blade/gs60/aorus x7/g750jz is stupid for choosing a manufacturer's ssd? LOL ok Mr. "true gamer"

 

-Where are you seeing that the G550JK has a GDDR5 option? The link posted earlier is just some random Australian reseller site, and if you google that same model number, you'll see other Australian resllers saying that it's DDR3. So given that Asus' own website lists the G550JK as having DDR3 for VRAM, I think it's much more likely that the one Australian reseller made a mistake than that GDDR5 is available.

-If you're going to list the external subwoofer as a benefit of the Asus, you should list the built-in subwoofer as a benefit of the Y50.

-We do know that the Y50 has dual cooling fans. Not sure why you're saying that's unknown.

-If you're listing "Only one HDD Bay" as a knock on the Lenovo, then you've got to put that same knock on the Asus.

-You didn't list the fact that the Asus has an optical drive. Some will consider that a plus, others a minus, but it should be listed.

-My biggest issue with your lists is that you don't say anything about price and you're comparing machines that are in very different price categories. The Asus costs $1,100 (and if you don't care about the black/red housing, you can get the touchscreen N550JK for that price as well). The Lenovo model you're talking about with the 512 GB SSD is $1,450 and has no touchscreen. The MSI is $1700, although that includes both an SSD and HDD.

If you don't care about cost and specs are your only concern, then by all means, compare away. But for most of us that have to take price into consideration, it seems to me the Asus is by far the best value, unless you absolutely have to have something thinner than 1" or you need screen resolution higher than Full HD or you can't live with a GTX 850m. But if those are your requirements, then you wouldn't be considering the Asus anyway.

 

You might be on to something. I am buying this for software development with Visual Studio. Just goes to show how some professional laptop user's needs are sidelined by all the laptops out there with dismal display resolutions.

It never occurred to them to build a 17" professional workstation class laptop for getting work done. Instead I have to check every day to see if this 15.6 inch "gaming laptop" is out. I think many professionals are buying these "gaming class" laptops for their performance and hardware specs and not necessarily for gaming...

 

He's just making a biased listing to convince himself (and other people) that G550JK is better than Y50, imo. IPS screen is fantastic and TN is "no good" by default? Did you look at a Y510P screen before? I don't know for you but the Y510P variant in my country has a very good TN panel, maybe not as good as "fantastic" but definitely far better from being rated "no good". A lot of missing information as well as misleading information.

 

Sorry for the missing information, I'm just expressing what I know and got from my research. I know some stuff isn't correct either, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Exactly, 'gaming laptop' is just a marketing term. It's up to you how to use it. As for me, I probably will only be gaming very little on my laptop since I need it to use it mainly for work and a little of entertainment (music, movies, etc.). And it's very important for me that the system needs to be able to watch movies at at least FHD without any performance issues, as how I've always been watching on my computer without any performance issues at all.

 

Not sure if you guys have seen this yet, but it looks like the 4g version will be maxwell (even though their own CS says kepler).


http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/y-series/y50/#techspecs

 

I have noticed that, but at this point my trust in lenovo is next to none with all the inconsistent information they've given. At this point I would like the following aspects to be made perfectly clear:

1. Do ALL versions of the GPU have maxwell

2. Which panels are IPS and which are TN

3. What ssd is used in the 512 GB model. Someone earlier said it was sandisk brand, and the only 512 GB ssd they make that I could find is the x210, which would be fine as it seems to be a very high quality ssd

4. If the wireless card is upgradeable, as if it is I would probably get an AC 7260

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All great things to know. Im pretty much sold on this. I am inbetween the y50, gs60, and blade

For me the blade is pricey, not enought ports, no number pad, small up and down arrows, and looks like a gaming machine.

The GS60 has too much noise at idle, has a flaky touchpad, doesnt have edge to edge glass, and looks like a gaming machine

The only downsides i see to the lonvo is the weight and width are bigger then the two above, but not my too much. The lenovo looks to have everything i want from the videos on youtube from CES:
Edged to edge glass on the 4k model
4k ips
number pad
large up and down keys
860m
several ports

What im still worried about:
How long is Battery life
is the touchpad any good
How does the keyboard feel
How loud is it at idle
How is the build quality and feel

It seems that everyone that put there hands on it at CES really liked it and that is encouraging!

 

They couldn't actually do anything with the ones at CES though, apparently they were just running looped game demos. I'd wait a few weeks for some reviews of production models.

EDIT: Looks like I was wrong, TechRadar said the keyboard felt squishy but the trackpad was very good, but that was a prototype model.

 

Good questions.

Build quality should be reasonably good and I would expect a nice keyboard coming from Lenovo. I really do not like the dedicated keypad leading to offset primary keyboard and touch pad. Given not many have commented on that and it's on your 'pro' list I'm probably in the minority here.

 

One of the few good videos from CES that you can really see the laptop.
Best Gaming Notebooks of CES 2014 - YouTube
Looks great.

 

I agree. The numpad totally kills the ergonomic of the keyboard, also resulting in small buttons for the main keys.

 

A proper num pad is a must for me. I don't care that it makes the keyboard offset. Every desktop keyboard I've ever used has been that way as well and it's never bothered me.

 

You can move the keyboard as you like for desktops but that isn't the case with laptops. Well, I don't really mind it myself but I hope my fingers would fit the buttons since I have a big fingers.

 

I too hope for the keyboard on the y50 to be comfortable for my big hands. I find the keys on full laptop keyboards to be rather cramped.

 

So when the 4k model will be announced on the website? with prices and tech specs...

Inviato dal mio SM-N9005

 

Rumor is mid May the product and configuration is announced and it goes on sale end of month. That's what a rep told me as well, not that they are reliable sources.

 

Is there any hope for a 1080p non touch model under 1150?

 

it's possible that the base model of 1299.- will cost 150.- less without touch if there is such an option

 

is the y50 going to have an 870m option anytime soon?

 

Early models now available to order

Lenovo Y50 Laptop | 15.6" High-Performance Gaming Notebook PC | Lenovo (US)

$1,299 - Touch, 8GB, Hybrid
$1,349 - non-touch, 1080P, 16GB, Hybrid
$1,449 - non-touch, 1080P, 16GB, 512GB SSD

Not the model I want yet, non-touch, 1080P, 8GB, 256GB SSD

 

Looking at the CES video, I am pretty sure that was an IPS panel because I cant imagine a TN panel having those viewing angles. Anyhow that was the 4k display.

Wish there was a remote chance that the 1080p panel was IPS too.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49hhTRbxJXM

He seems to be handling a 1080p version .. or so he says... screen looks good for me, head on,,... but not many chances to check out the viewing angles ....

 

or Female Gamers or Gamers who have the $$ to pay for something that wouldn't do anything less for them?

 

lolwut?
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huhhh?? .

 

Some manuals are up. These might be interesting to those of you wanting to modify the Y50:
Looks like you can take it completely apart.

http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/lenovo_y40_50_series_hmm.pdf
http://download.lenovo.com/consumer...-80_y50-70 touch_y50-80 touch_llw_english.pdf

 

Anyone have any idea about how long it normally takes for reviews to start coming out?

 

The model that's currently $1,349 is actually more of the base model. It just doesn't have the normal discount applied yet. I'm sure that once Lenovo gets this thing completely rolled out, there will be a base model with no touch, only 8 GB of RAM, etc. and it will probably be around $1,200-1,250 before discount, which could make it in the $1,000-1,100 range after the discount.

No. This model is only being offered with the 860m.

When someone posted a link a few days back to that Hungarian site that appeared to have a full review of an i5 version of the Y50, I had assumed that Lenovo had sent the laptops out for review and the reviews were simply embargoed until a certain date, and the Hungarian one had somehow leaked out early. I suppose that's still possible, but when I first thought it, I figured the Hungarian one was just a day or two early. But now that it's been over a week and nothing else has come out, I'm not sure what to think of that review.

 

Thanks for finding these, they reveal a bit more of the mystery. By the way, there's also a User Guide available.

So, a couple things. Here's a screenshot from the hardware guide:



Something you can glean from this is that there are only two panels, the FHD and UHD. This means that if the FHD are TN, then there's not much hope for an unrevealed IPS FHD unit.

Someone with really nice google-fu might be able to take those FRU numbers and confirm if the FHD or UHD are TN or IPS. For copy-pasta, the FHD is 5D10F78784 and the UHD is 5D10F78838. Checking the FRU on other 15.6" LCD modules might be a good start.

The hardware guide also gives a really granular guide about how to access really deep-down parts (way better than hardware manuals I'm used to). It even shows how to get to the LCD module and the touch layer too. What's interesting about that is that perhaps you could buy the touch layer separately and install it yourself. This of course is helpful for those who want the 4GB graphics chip, assuming Lenovo doesn't give you the option to have a touch FHD 4GB model (which they currently do not list).

Anything else people can surmise from these manuals?

EDIT: scratch that, another important table (pictured below) from the manual pretty much abrogates what I was saying above.



Once again, for copy-pasta:

AUO B156HTN03.6 FHD AG S LED1 NB LCD: FRU number: 18201583
CMI N156HGE-EAB FHD AG S LED1 NB LCD: Fru number: 18201584
BOE HB156FH1-401 FHD AG S LED1 NB LCD: Fru number: 18201585
SDC LTN156FL02-L01 UHD G S LED1 NB LCD: Fru number: 18201586

There's a suspicious L TN156 in the UHD part name.

EDIT 2: Doesn't seem there's any listing on AUO's web site for the B156HTN03.6 yet:
http://auo.com/?sn=149&lang=en-US&c=34

EDIT 3: Have to leave, but I found something interesting.
The AUO FHD in the Z510 is B156HTN03.4 and the AUO FHD in the Y50 is the B156HTN03.6, the only discrepancy being the 3.4 vs the 3.6, which I presume to be a slight bump in the firmware.

So if you want to now go to different reviews of the Z510 for quality of panel, then that might give you a pretty good idea of what to expect on the Y50's FHD display unit.

 

wow way to go tech savvy ppl

 

if this is final info then yes maybe there are only 2 kinds

 

So, according to this http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/lenovo_y40_50_series_hmm.pdf (at around page 26) the AMD gpu core is a Venus XTX which for wikipedia here is a Radeon HD 8890, although I can't find it anywhere else.
Also, for those wondering, on page 39 you can see the Y40 has dual fan cooling similar to the Y50.

On page 93, there's a list of LCD panels ( at least I think they're LCD panels). The only 2 I've found something about on google are the AUO B140HTN01.4 for the 14" and the AUO B156HTN03.6 for the 15". All the panels have AG and FHD written next to them so I assume they're anti-glare and Full-HD, except for this one SDC LTN156FL02-L01 which has G and UHD so I think it's the 4k panel and I think it's glossy.

Last one: page 95, table 7, it lists some parts for a UHD touchscreen

edit: a list of cpus, taken from page 89-90, table 4, No.4, all Intels I think:
y40 -> i5-4200 i7-4500 i5-4210 i7-4510
y50 -> i7-4200 i7-4702 i7-4700

 

Unfortunately, the only result in Google for the term "SDC LTN156FL02-L01" is this thread.

Using the term " LTN156FL02-L01" shows some import records when one such panel was shipped from China to India on Bangalore Air in December, 2013, but nothing about the tech specs of the panel.

 

Yeah I found this https://www.zauba.com/import-LCD+PANEL+COMPUTER/hs-code-85285100-hs-code.html searching for LTN156FL02-L01 but there are no infos on the actual display

 

This might be interesting. On a electronics retail website in Switzerland as previously mentioned in this thread y50 is already listed (though no supply available yet). If you scroll down the specifications you will notice them claiming that the notebook uses Intel AC 7260.

https://www.digitec.ch/ProdukteDetails2.aspx?Reiter=Details&Artikel=302545

 

Yes it's also mentioned in the manual that was posted before, togheter with the 3160 and other 3 cards listed as Non_Intel

 

Woah, some serious Sherlock Holmes S*** going on in the thread right now ^^
All I know so far is that I saw the Lenovo Thinkpad X1 carbon in a store and I couldn't take my eyes off the screen. This is what brought me to this thread. I believed that the 4k thing was just marketing BS but I realised I was wrong, and I'm hoping the y50's screen will be as good as what I saw in the Thinkpad.It was so good I was convinced to game at non-native resolution.
In other words...the y50 is still the perfect "gaming" laptop for me if it proves to have:
- a gorgeous 4k (touch) display for work (office / hopefully adobe suite if it's really been fixed for high dpi)
- 860m maxwell
- non gamer aesthetics (can that red backlight be switched off?)
To conclude, a slightly modified quote from fight club:
"I wanted to put a bullet between the eyes of each Korean/Chinese/Taiwanese manufacturer that put a gaudy gaming logo and rainbow backlit keyboard in their laptops. I wanted to destroy something fugly."

 

That also lists it having an i7 4702, where as all the models currently have 4700. Tbh I'd prefer the 4702 for the lower tdp. Also, lmao @ the extent we are going to in order to find out details that 95% of people probably wouldn't have the slightest clue about or care about.

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yeah man i've posted earlier bout the 4k screen, after checking out a 4k tv i was like i must have this on my laptop

 

Based on that PDF, looks like it will be a lot easier to access the CPU/GPU for repasting... which is good.

Also, Y70, Y80... larger display models yet to be announced?

 

you can wait for the discount to go up and use the student discount

 

Not at all, i thought the same at first but if you realize it refers to model number, it would not make sense say y40-70 and then y50-70