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    Y50 Thread

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Jobine, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. Jobine

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    >Uses greentext
    >Doesn't make text green


    Check yourself before you shrek yourself. This being said, a sexier laptop will not attract women.
     
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    I find it stupid that the G550JK only has a slightly better processor, but not a better GPU than the N550JK even though it states to be a gaming laptop. DDR3 ain't good for my tastes.
     
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    from what I can tell, the g550jk and N550jk both have exactly same specs, except colour is different. cpu is i7-4700HQ, and gpu is ddr3 GTX 850m

    have not found any difference that would actually make it worthwile to shell out more money for the RoG version.

    in other news, just noticed that Lenovo Canada has started listing the Y40 :)
     
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    Not to mention that the g550jk doesn't even have the touchscreen that n550jk does. the main problem with 550jk series against y50 is not the inferior GPU and vram but rather that the marketing position for this laptop is weird. with $50 more you get a solid gaming laptop rather than this "in between" model or add a couple hundred dollars you get a much better notebook with better everything. Having a pseudo-gaming notebook at $1100 just makes itself at an awkward position
     
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    Asus is marketing the laptop as a gaming machine for sales. Pretty smart imho, one laptop with two paint jobs for two markets.
     
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    Have you seen the Asus in person? I saw the Q550 at Best Buy (same dimensions) and it's much bigger and bulkier than I expected. It doesn't have that sleek look that you expect from a 2014 laptop. I understand it's got some great specs and it needs that size to facilitate cooling and the optical drive, etc., but I wouldn't call it "sexy" by any means. If you're buying a laptop for looks, I think the Y50 is significantly better looking than the Asus.

    Do we have any reason to believe the RoG version costs more than the N550JK? From what I can tell, it's the same price, but you just get a little less (no touch screen). For some, that may be a plus, for others, it may be a minus. But I don't think the G550JK necessarily costs more to start.
     
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    That unfortunately would be Razer or XPS 15. Also it's not just about the size, but weight too. Both XPS and Razer weight 4.4lbs instead of 5.3/5.7lbs of Y50 and 6.0lbs of 550JK. The screen quality is really good on both too. Unfortunately XPS has 750m which I consider a cardinal sin :) I'm actually getting one this week so will see what the performance is and if I could do with more weight.
     
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    just looked them both up on xotic pc, and g550jk is listed as $100 less, so my bad, I assumed the "gaming" version was going to be marked up
     
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    Just got off the phone with Lenovo.

    Looks like the ship date for my y50 is about one week ahead of schedule.

    They told me it should ship May 20th.

    Apparently they ship from China 2nd day air and have to clear customs in Kentucky.

    My guess is I'll have it by May 26th the latest.

    I'll keep my fingers crossed.
     
  10. kingfirejet

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    I've seen the N550Jk so the G550JK isn't that different besides the color of aluminum. The only thing bad about it might be the emblem on the back of the G550JK. I must say the best design on it is the etched aluminum edge on the laptop similar on the iPhone 5 edges which looks very modern and sleek.
     
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    LOL I knew someone's gonna bring up the RoG logo
     
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    The N550JK has that beveled edge as well, it's just that on the N it's silver like the rest of the laptop, while on the G it's red.

    I agree that I don't like the RoG logo. If I'm using the laptop in a business setting, that's not the image I want to be projecting.
     
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    The g550jk is an amazingly well designed laptop when you look at it from the top and dont catch the sides and the bottom... (asus website makes sure they capture exactly that too ) ...but that curving and thicker bottom under that finish looks bad :(

    i agree that the ROG branding isnt ideal when taken to office... that is one of the biggest pros i saw in the Y50 ... but they went ahead and did the vent like design to take that appeal away lol.... in the end its all about compromises i suppose :D

    i think for me the decision between the G550jk and the Y50 will come down to how much hotter the Y50 runs (thr Asus runs pretty cool!)... i dont mind a decent TN display... even Asus uses a TN panel in their Asus G750 series.. as long as it is decent and has good colors.... i think im okay with a TN.... the GPU performance is almost 35% apart, ... which is a huge performance gap between the laptops....

    Cant wait for the reviews to come out!! if we're really lucky maybe we'll get a face off between the 2 laptops :D
     
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    Would be so nice if they just put the logo on as a sticker that could be taken off.. less is more in my opinion. Great design is usually the design with less details, strangely enough no company seems to really "get it".
     
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    I'd like to see a simple black rectangular slab - something like the ThinkPad, but slightly thinner. Doesn't have to be razor thin either. No flashy colors or diagonal edging necessary. Simple and understated. Doesn't even need to be all aluminum, good quality plastic is fine, just not the cheap Samsung stuff.

    I'd opt for the ThinkPad models themselves, but none have the GeForce GPUs.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
     
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    The Dell XPS line has pretty much exactly what I want exterior wise, just a shame the GPU sucks and it's very pricey

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Agreed. And the subpar gpu is what is keeping me from pulling the trigger on the xps 15. The Precision m3800 is also an option, but don't really want the Quadro gpu.

    Why can't anyone come up with a laptop with simple exterior design as I described with a focus on top notch insides? I would pay premium for that. My 2 year old MBPr is still the closest thing to to my requirements. I would just prefer Windows without using boot camp or virtualization.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
     
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    Why don't you go for Gigabyte P35G v2 respectively P35W v2?
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/gigabyte/748881-gigabyte-p35g-v2-news-16.html
     
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    Yeah, I would even consider an MBP if the only model with a discrete GPU was less than 2600 dollars. At that point I'd entertain a Blade 14.

    The G550JK just seems like a cheaper (and cooler looking?) N550JK. Considering I'd prefer the touchscreen anyway, I'm not seeing any real advantages with going with "gamer" model. Here's hoping some more info comes on the Y50 4k soon.
     
  21. bva91

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    The promo video for the G550jk :) definitely looks interesting !

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnzmyyVd1jI

    Now we just have to wait for both to release and we're set :D

    Edit : This is the site with the video.... it mentions gddr5 again.. :-/.
     
  22. kingfirejet

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    Weird it says,

    Technical Specifications
    CPU: Core i7-4700HQ
    8GB of RAM
    Display 15.6 "anti-glare FullHD
    GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 850M or 860M with 2GB GDDR5
    HD 750GB or 1TB 7200RPM
    Size: 38.3 x 25.5 x 2.77 cm
    Weight: 2.5 Kg

    Source: Exclusivo: Asus anuncia notebook gamer G550JK com preço de R$ 3.999,00 e fabricação nacional [ Adrenaline.com.br ]

    On the Asus site and XoticPC it says GTX850m DDR3. I really hope its not a GTX850m but a GTX860m GDDR5
     
  23. Fatbot

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    That would make it more or less the same as the entry level y50. At that point it's a price and style preference. I'd seriously consider the G550JK with a Maxwell chip but at the preorder price that Xotic has it I doubt it's anything but the 850.
     
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    Could be that 850m will run on DDR3 and 860m will run on DDR5 like everywhere else.
    The source for that info you have quoted is Asus Brasil representative in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssh8ehexySw
    I skimmed through video and couldn't find anything he says about G550, but I don't understand Portuguese, so perhaps someone else could check it out.
     
  25. heibk201

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    that would be a stupid move because stickers that size will wear out much faster and chances are you will have tearings when you try to rip it off
     
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    it's very unlikely, or almost impossible for g550jk to have 860m since it will overlap with g750jm. the highest g550jk can go is 850m and they can tweak around with the vram to make it seem different
     
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    Just found a quote from Lenovo Danmark about availability of Y50 here in DK. It' expected to arrive in June/July and price is expected to be around 8000 Danish Kronas. I am kind of skeptical about it, because it's almost the same as US price. Usually stuff here is much more expensive. They also state that Y50 has been delayed because of some production issues.
    Here's the link https://da-dk.facebook.com/LenovoDanmark/posts/726010110782959
     
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    How is the G550JK with an 860m an overlap with anything in the G750 series? They're different sizes. Therefore, they're not overlapping at all. In my opinion, manufacturers should realize that size is one of the first considerations for some buyers, so while a 17" model may have all the options I want, it's automatically out of consideration because of size. So if they want my business, they need to also offer a 15.6" version with the same specs.
     
  29. ghyeng

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    Do note that this is a Y50 thread, guys. Not a G550JK or N550JK thread.
     
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    1. these two can't have same spec, g750 series has significantly better cooling that would be very difficult to achieve with a 15.6" chassis.

    2. you need to understand who these two products are targeted for. the g750 series are targeted specifically for people who prioritizes performance rather than aesthetics, while the g550jk is more for entry level gamers who uses notebooks for more entertainment purposes than actual hardcore gaming. g550jk is basically the same as n550jk, except it is marketed as a pseudo-gaming laptop(which may be a downside b/c of the RoG logo). Giving a entertainment laptop a mid-upper range GPU is just not needed and jacks ups too much price. the logic behind this is that if you truly want better gaming experience then buy the more expensive g750 series instead of this. this is not a hardcore gaming rig and 850M satisfies the need for the people that this laptop is targeted for

    3. you honestly think someone besides lenovo/clevo would sell something with an 860M at $1100?
     
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    well I wonder whose fault it is for bringing up this whole g550jk bs and all the stupid comparisons between the two when they are not even for the same type of people?
     
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    To answer #3, probably acer. Hp as a longshot.
     
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    Hi.. I posted the detail about the g550jk as a lot of the people here were trying to decide between that and the y50.. I thought it would help give us an idea...

    I'm sorry if I have lead the thread astray, that wasn't my intention :)

    Sent from my LT25i using Tapatalk
     
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    Its okay, they're both very sexy laptops lol To me its Y50 vs. G550JK vs. N550JK. I don't like the MSI Ghost, P34v2, or the Razer Blade due to price and aesthetic decisions.
     
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    Comparison is good, but 90% of these last few pages are you guys discussing on N550JK and G550JK with nothing related to Y50. These should be done somewhere else, eg an Asus thread.
     
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    and Idk who it is but people are seriously putting 850M and 860M as equals, have fun with that
     
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    Okay so after reading 240 pages of this forum about the Y50 and Lenovo not releasing a Y50 with the 4K display as I was expecting I am going to buy the Toshiba 4K laptop tonight.

    I just can't wait any more to replace my laptop. Good luck folks! I wonder if Lenovo ran into issues with the 4K display.
     
  38. ghyeng

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    I wonder who too, but I can't be bothered to go back and read through all these pages to find out who started this discussion between two Asus laptops in a Y50 thread. Off-topic much duh...
     
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    Good effort but so painful.

    My eyes are bleeding and my brain is twisted. LoL
     
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    probably just production delays. pretty sure lenovo doesn't wanna pull a razer and have their CS get sh!tted on an hourly basis.
     
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    yo dawg chil'out brah. lenovo ain't got sh!t released yet so we niggs ain't know nothing ya needa calm yo as and wait f reviews dawg. ya dig?
     
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    ...is this real life?

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Ha! Yes, me and my african american vernacular crew are now here to roam the streets of notebookforum and start a ruckus!
    We are going to indiscriminatley go to lenovo and personally reprimend them for their failures with the product launch of the unestablished Y50 starting may the 14th. Beware!
     
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    None of this even remotely addresses what I said in my post. You said Asus couldn't put an 860m in the G550JK because then it would overlap with the G750 series. I pointed out that because the G750 series is a different size, they appeal to two totally different markets and therefore there should be an overlap of (or even identical) hardware specs on both a 15" and a 17" version. To think that if a 17" version offers certain specs, that they can't then offer those same specs in a 15" model for fear of "overlap" makes no sense at all.

    And for those complaining that this is a Y50 thread, I don't care if this isn't directly related to the Y50. MANY people in this thread have expressed an interest in the G550JK and N550JK and have expressed a difficulty deciding between the two. Thus, relevant information about these competing models is also helpful for those trying to decide if they want to buy the Y50. And since we don't have any official info or reviews of the Y50 yet, what else are we going to talk about?
     
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    I happen to be one who welcomes the N550JK/G550JK discussion here for the reasons already cited above. It's relevant to me because I'm still teetering on the fence going from one side to the other like an insane person because neither side seems to provide the perfect package. It appears there's a good number of people here in that boat and are waiting for some Y50 reviews to finally end the madness and influence a decision. I look forward to some substantial comparisons here once the reviews do start coming in and think it will be helpful to all of us - so I say keep it coming.
     
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    Exactly what I said. You are comparing two ASUS laptops in a LENOVO thread. Go create a "N550JK vs G550JK which one is better" thread in ASUS section and discuss there.


    Edit: There's no problem with comparing between N550JK/G550JK and Y50 since some people can't decide which one to go, but the discussion has slowly leaned towards N550JK vs G550JK and their aesthetics, ROG logo, etc which are not even indirectly related to Y50.
     
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    Add me to the "I don't mind if we talk about Asus N/G550JK" camp. I for one am happy to see others are in the same boat as me. I understand the concern about getting off topic, but it's not like we started discussing politics; we're comparing a similar offering from a competitor. It's been a part of the natural flow of the discussion. I don't consider it off-topic. It's been very helpful for me as a matter of fact. If it wasn't for this thread, I wouldn't even have known about these Asus models. My hope is that someone at Lenovo is checking up on this thread and sees how they dropped the ball and let Asus swoop in and win over those of us disappointed in the lackluster rollout/release of the long-awaited Y50. Maybe it will be educational to them too so they can get it right next time. :thumbsup:
     
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    I'm considering Y50, MSI GS60, Clevo W230SS and Asus N/G550JK so it's good to see all the informations in one thread :D


    Sorry for my English!
    Sent from iPad.
     
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    GS60 is using Kepler. You may want to count that out if you are looking for Maxwell GPUs. Other than that, it is a fantastic laptop. My friend has one and he reports the GPU temp remains between 60-70 Celsius when he plays Dota 2 for hours in a row.
     
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    I'm also in the undecided camp between the G550JK and the Lenovo Y50. The last three computers I've brought were all Lenovo's and honestly only one of them in my opinion has a decent screen, the Y510p. The Z710 I bought strictly for work has been a massive disappointment: the TN screen is technically 1920*1080 but the colours are incredibly washed out and the viewing angles are terrible. The Y580p (which I still have) has great colour saturation for full HD but is just not bright enough, and so with the Y50 I am very concerned that the 1920*1080 will not meet my expectations.

    That's why at the moment I'm leaning towards the G550JK with it's IPS panel, plus I'm probably one of the only ones left on this forum that actually likes having an optical drive in laptop. The Y580p still has to my mind the best collection of ports and features I've ever seen in a $1000 laptop - for $1049 I literally got their top of the line model and I've never regretted it - and part of the allure for me was the blu-ray drive. I love the screen on my y510p, but it's just missing too many things for me and the position of the USB ports has driven me insane unless I have it hooked up to a monitor.
     
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