Y50 Thread

Seems like 4K will be avaliable in July :/ Source: Lenovo's first 4K IdeaPad laptops missing 4K displays | PCWorld

 

With the new option of that bluray drive being (supposedly) internal.. where exactly does it go? If you look at the laptop itself there is no place for an optical drive.

 

I wouldn't hold my breath on it. It is most likely a typo or just an external USB drive bundle in the box.

 

if you look in the maintenance manual for y50, it shows all the processor/gpu that the y50/y40 will have

 

you are assuming all IPS screens are good but the reality is the lower grade IPS is worse than 6 bit TN panel. generally IPS are indeed better than IPS, but that depends on the color bit.

 

lmao the funny thing is that the model in the email is a Y40 not a Y50, as you can see it doesn't have number pads. TROLOLOLOOLOLOLLOOL lenovo gg

 

Honestly, I personally think the Haswell refresh is more of a marketing strategy/bs than actual difference. Sure you get 0.1Ghz more with the same TDP but this is Haswell, and you know how hot Haswell is. Jacking up the clock speed is just forcing the performance at the cost of more heat release. Some people may like it, but I really prefer the i7-4702HQ in which you get 10W less for TDP while only down-clocking it by 0.2 Ghz

 

+1! The i7-4702HQ is not the bottleneck and given the focus on the battery life, it's more than enough. The bottleneck is the GPU - if they put 850/860m inside I would probably build Dell a statue

 

well 750M has a TDP of 50W which is only 5W more than an 860M...it's the performance/tdp that makes the difference...plus there's optimus anyways so you are not gonna spend much time on dGPU unless you are playing games on battery. if that's the case then you shouldn't be the expecting much...the key difference is still the difference in performance, battery life wise they are more or less the same.

 

hey guys I also found some pics on tieba(chinese forum) about the temp and GPU and the result seems a bit questionable when it's supposedly under full load running benchmarks?
CPU: high 72C low 32C avg 43C
GPU: high 65C low 29C avg 36C
HD is kinda pointless to test

with this temp, i think this test is bs

GPUz also detected that the 860M is maxed out 1020 Mhz which means lenovo locked the peak clock and disabled NVidia boost which seems somewhat legit


EDIT: this is the i5 version with a cooling pad on, so it's not a very good test, but it at least tells you what to expect. As for the disabled NVidia boost, let's hope that can be turned on in the bios

 

I dont undrestand your point. I'm saying I want 850/860m over 750 - I think you are disagreeing but saying the same thing

 

I am not on an expert on the subject, but why in the world would they do that to the GPU?

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so it lowers the heat output obviously. nvidia boost is like a factory overclock. you think higher clock can be achieved without releasing more heat? this is a cheap way to cool the notebook down although I think it's pretty stupid and it limits the GPU's performance by quite a bit, so ya know....

 

UPDATE
the same guy did another test with his i5 y50 w/o a cooling pad this time


this is running furmark and aida64 at the same time

CPU: high 86 low 37 avg 76
GPU: high 77 low 32 avg 70

the internal

basically the same the prototype model although it still has a problem - the heat pipe on the top can be easily extended to the CPU, and there's even a dedicated slot for it, but it isn't. as we can see from the tests the CPU is getting a lot hotter than the GPU, and this is only an i5. with an i7 processor the temp will be significantly higher UNLESS they extended the first heat pipe to the CPU.

it's also verified that lenovo did disable NVidia boost and as of now it can't be configured in the BIOS, but hopefully they will make it available after a BIOS update. HOWEVER, the maximum clock the 860M can go up to is 1020Mhz which is not far from the 1100Mhz that NVidia boost can get to, and the downclock caused about a 5% decrease. another reason could be that this model is using i5, so boost may be unlocked for the i7 models.

the A pad and D pad are both made of brushed aluminum so anyone that still complains about w.e. plastic/cheaply build bs can stfu

the keyboard has shorter key travel distance (the rest of what he said is a bit subjective so I don't see any need to mention it, after all keyboard feeling depends on the user)

the JBL speaker is good, the base is very clear (I mean lenovo you better give us some clear difference after sacrificing 2 msata slots for a subwoofer)

I won't bother translating anything about the HDD since it uses a 1tb 7200rpm WD drive that will be vastly different from the US models. plus for US models, they just recycled the seagate sshd from the y510p so there's nothing new

at last, as sort of expected, the Intel 3160 AC wireless sucked balls so lenovo better get a 7260 AC soon or we'll have to get it ourselves

the reviewer didn't say much about the screen besides the fact that it's matte (probably anti-glare) and uses a TN panel

my opinion: as for the i5 version this notebook is solid. things that we expected to be good are good, things we expected to be bad indeed sucked. the heating for the CPU is much of a concern as I mentioned, but there are rooms for improvement that we can see on the i7 models such as the easily extendable heat pipe.the heat solution is doing very well with the GPU, although I don't wanna see that locked clock speed ever again. the overall build quality seems solid from the pictures and there are no obvious problems with it.

1st review: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3044619775?see_lz=1
2nd review: ÆÀ²âµÚ¶þÌù_y50°É_°Ù¶ÈÌù°É

 

No GPU Boost is a good thing as it really gets in the way of overclocking and overvolting. That's why, for example, all of our unlocked BIOSes/vBIOSes have it disabled. It's disappointing to see that Lenvo underclocked its 860M slightly below reference but it shouldn't be too hard to bring it back up and beyond as Maxwell has great overclocking potential.

That CPU temp is scary though if it's already getting to almost 90C with just an i5. At that rate the CPU overheating will be worse than the Y510p and much worse than the Y500. At this rate an i7 is practically unfeasible as it will be guaranteed to throttle or even thermal shut down under intense use.

 

I cave in to the touch model last week, my estimated ship date is 23/6 so much for within 3-4 weeks ):

 

So can anyone tell me the difference between the two high end models? They are 10 bucks apart and appear to have identical specs.

 

The CPU is a newer version of the 4700, not much has changed, mostly just 100 MHz faster.

 

I missed a couple of pages on this thread.. any word on the 4k displays?

 

How could you possibly? Slacker!

No word yet.

 

this is pretty much it regarding 4k

 

They won't be available until July. Source: Lenovo's first 4K IdeaPad laptops missing 4K displays | PCWorld

 

You have to give it to Lenovo thought.
They are announcing products and BOOM, 7 months later are hitting the market!
We are talking and experiencing corporate marketing at its best loool

 

I just placed my order last night, and the estimated ship date is 2014/10/13 ????

It was saying 1-3 business days

 

Does anyone know when might this be released in UK?

I will be traveling to UK end of June so my best bet is to get it then (if possible) as I doubt it'll see the light of the day anytime soon in India or Thailand (my other alternative purchase locations)

Also can someone please help me how prices in UK (as opposed to USA) typically are? Is it a straight up conversion ie a 1000 USD laptop sold at 1000 GBP? (because that's a rip off)

 

But for those who aren't going to OC gpu boost isn't bad. Like I said before, if you look at the internal parts, the heat pipe on the top can be just extended 1 inch longer to cover the CPU, which will probably happen for the i7 models

 

Yeah I had a shipping date of 10/10/2014 when I ordered the Blue-ray player version. The next morning, I called their sales department and inquired about the shipping date. They said it wasn't too strange to have a shipping date that late out since there were some "really hard to get parts." That sketched me out, so I canceled my order and placed one for the base model with the i7-4710HQ. That ships on the 29th of this month - much less sketchy.

I would recommend you call someone and try to get a more legitimate answer. Best of luck!

 

I talked to a sales associate and they said there's a BIG demand for the Y50 at the moment and they recommended me buying it now than later because it will take longer to get one.

 

Thanks, bro. Actually, I did talk with one rep from lenovo this morning, she said she could not track my order within several systems( donno why there are multiple systems to track orders), and currently there is no inventory of Y50 at all in US, so it's highly unlikely mine will be shipped within 3 days, so I probably ended up cancelling my order again and wait longer.
Sucks so bad... I should have stuck with my old order two wks ago, in that way I will get mine next week, the whole lenovo website system is sh*tty..
Best of luck to all of us suckers..

 

The one thing really putting me off this laptop is the screen quality. With all things pointing to TN, I need to have a detailed first hand account of how the screen actually is.

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Lenovo is infamous for its ridiculously long shipping times, I would honestly expect nothing less than a months wait after you place an order, that is probably the best case scenario.

 

Hmm hmmm hmm waiting for xotic pc to get some of these suckers in.

 

Why? What do you want to have Xotic do to it?

 

I don't know about him, but I too am waiting for Xotic to get it. I'm basically waiting for additional storage options. I don't have any experience in swapping laptop hardware, so I'm willing to pay the extra bucks to have them do it for me. I'm also waiting for reviews to come in, so for waiting for Xotic works in that regard also. I'm not 100% set on the Y50, since I'm also considering the N550JK (despite the 850M tradeoff).

 

For me its between this and the p34g v2. P34g v2 has everything I want except one thing: cost. To get a 512 GB ssd I'd have to spend 1800 total. The lenovo is a good 300-400 less than that, but the TN screen and reports of it being terrible are really putting me off. I think I'm going to wait until after E3 for whatever that may come out. If nothing changes by then, I'm getting the gigabyte.

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Nm, asked a question but found out the answer. Don't know how to delete the post.

 

Customer service
Shipping time
Customization
Cash discount

 

My possible XoticPC build

Intel i7-4710HQ
Touch Screen FHD (Maybe they can replace the TN panel with an IPS panel?)
16GB Ram
Intel Dual Band AC 7260 802.11
IC Diamond Thermal (I'm worried about the heat)
500GB Samsung SSD

+If they have that supposed Blu-ray drive, i'd take it out and replace it with a spare hard drive.

 

Man I don't even care about the fluff. I just want an 860m + i7 for 1049 T_T.

 

Lenovo must learn something from HTC.

 

Plus they ship internationally - so people from all over can get these top pcs that are usually not released in their countries (with international warranty!). Also, the warranty is on all components - including the exchanged HDD/RAM etc.

 

You mean like how to suck and almost go out of business?

 

the reviews from the people that got it in china never said it's terrible, so far it's ok in colors and the viewing angles sucked like a normal TN panel, which doesn't mean much since we don't get the sRGB range buT at least we can say it's decent

 

hm can you also exchange the keyboard to be physically german layout?

 

haha well said... in a way the 860 maxwell with i7 combo for 1049 really is the main part of this whole cake

everything else is just frosting

but the IPS panel is one hell of a frosting tho

 

Y50 disassembly guide with photos for those interested

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Delivering product just next day after announcing.
(HTC M8)

 

I'm constantly amazed when I see people considering buying multiple different sizes of laptops. For me, the size is the very first thing. Everything else comes after. I won't compromise on my size requirements just because someone makes something similar to what I want in a 14" size (Razer, Gigabyte) or in a 17" size. For me it's 15.6" or nothing. And unfortunately, the Gigabyte P35G v2 is just too expensive for what it provides, plus it just looks cheap. Which is too bad, because it seems to have virtually everything else I'm looking for.

 

These two posts contradict each other. From what I've seen, Xotic's prices start out higher than other retailers, then they charge more to do the customizations. So if you want the Y50 for $1050, you're likely going to have to get it from Lenovo or Amazon or something. My guess is that Xotic's base price will be $50-100 more than those places, and that's before adding options.

 

Guess that's just different opinions, but I'm okay with the gigabytes 14 inch size because

1. Portability IS a concern. I would prefer the y50 because of its price, but if the screen is bad, then THAT is what kills it for me

2. I AM "compensated" in a way for the smaller screen in that the gigabyte is a mere 3.6 pounds. Like I said, I would probably prefer a 15.6 in screen, but a 14 inch while dropping 1.7 pounds off my back and having everything I want while not being an outrageously overpriced piece of tech?(Razor blade) I'll live with that.

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