Y50 Thread

Can anyone one answer a couple of questions

Dont know if i should pull the trigger on this laptop yet

Questions:
Battery Life Touch Model vs Regular (Antiglare) model?

I have 2-3 displays how would I be able to utilize them when the lenovo Y50 only has 1 hdmi but no displayport (I think)?

860m 4gb or 2gb for video editing and gaming?

How would an 860m run with a game like Watchdog/Destiny basically games coming out this year

Sorry for the questions but I hope some of my questions also helps others.

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y50 OUT IN CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IdeaPad Y50 | Lenovo | (CA)


WOHOOOOOO

now for the discounts and the reviews!

 

Apparently this ecoupon removes 100$ off the 59421855 model on Lenovo's y50 site:
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Just in case...

 

The following is available in Canada for around 1050, I am not really interested in touch screen and already have an SSD, I suppose this would be a good buy? Still not entirely sure if 4gb of vram would be worth it for a lot more money. I am guessing regular ram is pretty easily upgradable aswell so 8gb is good enough.

• 4th Generation Intel Core i7-4710HQ Processor (2.50GHz 1600MHz 6MB)
• Windows 8.1 64
• 15.6" FHD LED AntiGlare Backlight (1920x1080)
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M 2GB
• 8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
• Hybrid 500GB 5400 RPM+8GB SSHD
• None
• Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 3160
• Bluetooth Version 4.0
• One year
• 4 Cell 54 Watt Hour Lithium-Ion

 

I may have missed someone posting this, but Y50 has disappeared from lenovo UK (on mobile). Apparently only 14 y510's left, they will probably reintroduce y50 when y510's have all gone...?

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Hi Guys, I'm New here and i have been following this forum since day one. I'm really keen on buying y50 but currently still not available in my country Malaysia. Even if it does, the price will be higher and the specs tend to be lower compared to US variant.

I have been researching and looking for different ways to buy from the US and ship to Malaysia.

comgateway.com offers an US shipping address in Oregon which is Tax Free and their shipping charge are reasonable but i have never tried it.
Has anyone used this website before? Or are there any better alternatives?

Any fellow Malaysians here? :hi2:

 

That's an awesome site....hope itbcan be used for US residents as well.

 

How much tax do you have pay anyway? If the shipping charges from their warehouse to your US address is lesser than the tax charges, there's no harm trying their service! But it will take longer time to reach you compare shipping directly from lenovo.

 

Purchasing the 1109 model on student discount amounts to around 1199 total. Forkin sales tax.

 

Woot! Canada finally got the Y50 today! I totally called it, guys.

I already ordered the 59421850 model, which has:
i7-4710HQ
16GB RAM
Nvidia GTX860, 4GB VRAM
Non-Touch FHD Display
512GB SSD

The final price, including tax, was $1600.
Estimated arrival time is only 1-3 days! Hopefully that's accurate, since I'm probably one of the first people in Canada to order one and I live in Toronto.

I decided on the Non-Touch model in the end because of the nice SSD, which is far more useful to me than a touchscreen I probably wouldn't use much. The only Touch model here also only has a 5400rpm 1TB HD and I don't want to wait any longer for one with SSD to possibly show up. The greater screen durability, 0.5 pounds lighter weight, and lack of a need to clean my screen every day are nice bonuses for the Non-Touch model as well.
What I'm losing out on is showing off Touch to friends and family and the glossy screen: hopefully the matte screen is decent though. I'm sure I'll get used to it since I use an old matte TN panel as an external monitor all of the time. And reviews for the Y510 matte screen were generally very positive, so I have hope.

 

woot 1-3 days nice, you better do a quick TN panel review for us!

 

I've never done any quantitative tests on displays and don't think they're all that useful anyways. But I will definitely be sharing qualitative opinions and maybe even some pictures, though they're probably subjective. Disclaimer: I've never had a computer with an IPS panel, a 15.6" screen, or FHD, so my colour tolerance, surprise at the screen area, and amazement at pixel density will all likely be greater than for some of you.

If I actually get it within 1-3 days, it'll be funny to be one of the first people with the laptop despite Canada releasing it so late.

 

aww yiss!

I was just wondering if it would be worth it just to get the base model for $1149 ($1210 after tax), and swap in:
ac-7260 wireless adapter ($30) - is this going to be a significant improvement, or a difficult upgrade?
+8Gb RAM ($94) - don't even really need this, 8Gb is fine for me
750Gb-1Tb 7200rpm HDD ($80) - I absolutely cannot stand 5400 rpm disks. does anyone know if the y50 requires 7mm "slim" disks, or will a 9.5mm fit?
total after upgrades: $1353 ($1420.65 after tax) + bye bye warranty

vs. the $1499 ($1573.95 after tax) of the 512 ssd model

 

Wireless adapter upgrades are more often than not easy upgrades. You really won't see a big improvement is your wireless speed is lower than that of the AC-3160 card, as most people don't even have AC routers to begin with. If you have a high-speed AC connection, I would definitely go for it.
Can anyone post that picture of the internals of the Y50? It was somewhere around page 150 I think but I can't find it now. I couldn't answer your 7mm disk question without looking at that picture. Also, there may be a chance that Lenovo put in a 2 x 4GB RAM instead of 1 x 8GB. If this is the case, your 8GB RAM upgrade would be a 16GB RAM upgrade and could get pretty expensive.

 

You can get an idea of how 860M perfoms on current games HERE (look at the bottom for the games benchmarks).

 

Never mind, I found the internals picture.

http://news.laptop.bg/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Lenovo-Y50-70-2.jpg

Looking at the picture, the RAM is 1 x 8GB. Easy upgrade.
No mSATA slot, as discussed before. Only SSD upgrade is 2.5" SSD.
The "slim fit" disks will probably fit.
Fan positioning is horrible, but will probably work.
WiFi card is really easy to get to.

 

Nice Titanfall benchmark on there. This is for the 2GB card I think, right?

 

I just ordered the same model as well!

 

I personally would prefer SSD to HDD and the one year base warranty is nice to have...I wouldn't want to waste it on the off chance that something does actually break within a year. And time is money, so going to a computer store, buying all the necessary parts, prying open the underside, adding RAM, backing up the standard hard drive onto a new hard drive, installing the new hard drive, etc... is just not worth it to me. Instead of mucking around with that crap I'd rather pay the extra cash upfront to have Lenovo do it for me and have me a nice 1 year warranty to boot. But that's just me. If you don't mind the pain associated with all of that, don't care about loss of warranty, and have time to kill, I'm sure upgrading the base model would indeed be cheaper than getting the top model.

 

Damn!, you got the one without the discount? That is a hefty price man

 

that's with a $350 discount, iirc

 

Nice find! Thanks, I might just get that model now

 

The base model including taxes is around 1180. Do you guys think its worthwhile to pay 420 dollars extra for 8gb more ram, 2gb of more vram and a 512 SSD?

The touchscreen model without the 512 SSD but 4gb vram and 16gm sdram is 100$ cheaper at 1500 including taxes.

haha, really confused with the choices.

 

It all depends on your budget, but keep in mind if all you're doing is normal gaming (e.g. not concerned about very specific games which require high VRAM) & you're not running a lot of video editing, photoshop, MATLAB, etc, what you're really paying the extra $420 for is the SSD & Lenovo putting it in for you.

Personal opinion, especially if you have an older laptop/PC & this is a big upgrade for you, go with the $1180 model. It'll be a big increase as is, and the Hybrid drive is by no means a bad drive (it will just take a couple weeks to "burn it in" to get your speed boost, but it'll still be a little faster to open apps/boot than a normal HDD even at baseline). If, in the future, loading times become a serious concern for you, you can always buy an SSD for less than $200 and swap it out. And if you wait a year to do that, you won't void your warranty.

EDIT: Regarding the Touchscreen, I'd again say think of the extra $320 as paying for the touchscreen, not the VRAM/extra 8 GB. How much will you use it? If you really like touchscreen stuff, consider the model without the extra VRAM/8GB (I don't know the price off the top of my head). If you think you'll only use the touchscreen as a gimmick once in a blue moon, it may not be worth it.

 

Woooooooooooooooooooooooah! Just registered to tell everyone this:

Lenovo rep (sounded like a knowledgeable guy, not your every day rep) just told me that they were given an announcement today that there will soon be released a LIMITED RUN OF SLI CONFIGS! That's right, there will be a model added soon that has duel Maxwell 860m's! Holy crap! He didn't have a price, but I would be fine with an extra $200 or so for that; the Maxwell cards have had amazingly low temps, even when overclocked, and I'm not at all worried about heat.

 

ehm... and where in the world of y50 internals will that have space??

 

sound the alarms ding dong ding dong holy crap

 

I'm kind of confused too. For me (US), the top model of the Y50 is $1459. It has the 4GB VRAM, 16GB RAM, i7 4710HQ, and 512GB SSD. Its really the best deal that you can get because I highly doubt that you can even find an aftermarket 512GB SSD for $100.

However, the $1359 model has a $100 coupon code which brings it to $1259. This would make it by far the best non-touch deal if you don't care about SSD. Even at that, the 512GB SSD is only a $200 upgrade, which by comparison is very reasonable.

 

There's plenty of space in the machine for it.

Picture: http://news.laptop.bg/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Lenovo-Y50-70-2.jpg

 

Thanks for the helpful reply!

I do play quite a lot of bf4, which is known to sometimes push a little over 2gb in vram, I am indifferent to the touchscreen, not really interested in it at all. As far as the SSD goes I already have an intel 240gb SSD.

In essence the only thing I am really interested in is a little bit more of vram, especially with the future iterations of BF and Crysis coming up in the coming years. A nice SSD, touchscreen and ram are a bonus but not required. I suppose I could sell the SSD aswell as I have one already.

 

That would be insanely good! Maybe they will wait until June and release the SLI configuration and the 4K screen (which I don't see why people want it so much).

 

@fantasticzig:
The odds of that Lenovo rep having even a minor clue about what he was talking about are pretty slim...
For starters, where would the extra card go? And more importantly, why on earth would Lenovo not announce something as earth-shattering as that at CES 2014? In my opinion, odds are 99.9% that the Lenovo rep confused the Y50 with the Y510 and was talking about the wrong computer. Lenovo reps have been wrong more times than right for the Y50 (just read this thread, lol) and I don't trust them on any future tech questions at all now.

@khajure:
Pretty much what ArgentWren said, unless you're too lazy to ever want to manually upgrade or want an SSD now instead of a year later. Factoring in the price of a 512GB SSD, I am paying around $200 to get an SSD a year sooner with no work, as well as getting some free RAM and VRAM that, while not particularly amazing, is again a nice little bonus to get with no laptop opening and tinkering and warranty-voiding. For me, the extra $150 or whatever I'm "wasting" is worth it to get these perks now. Lenovo isn't charging THAT much mark-up for the SSD; it's reasonable enough in my opinion. In contrast, Razer charges far more obscene mark-up and the Razer Blade doesn't even offer as much storage.

 

Anyone knows that the Y50 Blu-Ray External? or build in?

 

Keep in mind that I live in Ontario, where tax is pretty high, and the $1600 for my purchase is AFTER tax. Overall, I think it's a pretty good price even if it isn't the most amazing deal ever. The way I see it, if I wanted an i7-4710, GTX860 Maxwell, and 512GB SSD configuration in any other laptop, I would be paying far, far more than $1600. And the aesthetics wouldn't be as nice (in my opinion, the Y50 looks even better than the Razer Blade which is pretty much just a black Macbook clone). A little while ago I almost bought the Samsung Ativ Book 8 for $1700, and that computer doesn't even compare to the Y50 in anything (except battery life and screen, which Samsung admittedly did really well). So I am more than content with what I'm getting for $1600.

 

Anyways, I like the Y50 more than the Razer Blade and a LOT more than the MSI Ghost GS60, which are pretty much the only competitors. Yet even the model I bought is significantly cheaper than these alternatives.

@PSXQ:
I would bet a decent sum of money that it's going to be external, regardless of what the Lenovo reps and the Lenovo website say (they're claiming its internal). There just isn't enough space for a DVD drive in the shell.And using a different shell wouldn't really make it the same computer...Although why Lenovo would bother releasing a model with an external drive when such drives are so readily available from any electronics store is beyond me. I think they're confused, lol.

 

Anyone else think the SLI configuration would become the norm with the y50 later on? Especially if there is temporary small release now?

 

LOL! Thaks! I agree but I think this is plus as I want to get the GTX 860 4GB so its the cheaper one in the list I think I am going to order it after 2 weeks can't wait though hehe

 

No one really knows until someone gets theirs.

UPDATE
Just confirmed with Lenovo that it will be an external drive.

 

Guys, there is plenty of space for SLI. Just look at the picture I keep posting. Link: http://news.laptop.bg/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Lenovo-Y50-70-2.jpg

 

is the 4k screen worth it? or is the screen too small?

 

Right now? Not at all. Not because of screen size, but because of compatibility. Adobe programs are the worst, all the dropdown menus are way to small to see anything. The problem is that when gaming, you have to use a lower res anyway because a GTX 860M can't possibly have enough power to handle that sort of gaming. Colors look better slightly on 4K, but it really isn't worth it.

 

How did you confirm it, because when I constantly asked the online reps, they say it will be an internal drive.

Also my second question is that how is the new Y50s in Canada only have 1-3 business days shipping time while for US, its 3-4 weeks? Aren't all the laptops basically shipped from the same area?

 

Guys, don't know if anyone here likes AMD but the Y40 is now available for $899 with a 256GB SSD! Use coupon code "DOORBUSTER"

EDIT
Sorry, apparently its an HDD. Still a good deal though.

 

US laptops are actually shipping within this week, they just haven't changed the figures on the US site. I confirmed this with 4 lenovo chat reps as well as Lenovo email reps, which tend to be very knowledgeable.

 

Where do you see the space for that? You need another equally big fan and some kind airchannel to the vents and you are changing the heatlevel for evrey other component. It will not happen with the same chassis.

 

I apologize if I seem sceptical, but this seems highly unlikely. even if they do find some place to stick the extra 860m, it means that they need to find an extra 75w power from the battery which already small enough. if anything, they may put in twin 850m's, and incread the draw by only 15w. but tht brings me to my next point:

that is the picture we are all looking at when we say that the y50 is cramped enough as it is and it doesn't look like it has room. however:

if they do somehow manage to fit a BD-Drive, then there is certainly hope that there is room for the SLI.

I'm not holding my breath, though if this does pan out, I will genuinely squeal like a preteen at a Justin Bieber concert.

 

Its definitely possible. Look at the Aorus X7. Link: http://i.imgur.com/5Eieudm.jpg
I get that the Aorus is a 17" chassis, but it has space taken up by the 4 RAM slots as well as a massive battery, making it essentially similar to the 15" Y50 chassis.
Looking at the Aorus, which is SLI, we see that the fans don't necessarily need to be covering the chips. As long as you have air flow to them, you're fine. In case you guys didn't know, they put the chips really close together so that it would be shorter distance for the air to get out the back hinge by the screen. They have multiple options of where to put the second chip. They could put it up by the CPU, in the area where you see the black airflow channels.
They could also put in in the black area that looks like a triangle, right beside the right hand side fan. Whatever is in there right now, bump it out to the bottom and right, it would be enough space for a second GPU. It could harness the right hand side fan if they shifted it 3 cm to the right, and it would be right under the intake positions.
Another option would be to make the HDD an m.2 SATA, which would free up some space in the HDD bay. Then they could channel air flow under the subwoofer components, which will be pretty well insulated from the CPU heat in the first place, out the main exhaust hinge. Easily doable with some modifications to the airflow setup on the part of Lenovo. Those fans aren't massive, by the way. You can get away with a relatively small fan if you control air flow well. This also is not located insanely far away from the air intake underneath the machine.
So yeah, they could definitely do it, but it would be difficult. If there is any company that I can think of that could to this, it would be Lenovo. Think of the Y510p SLI. It was in its own little section of the machine, and even being Kepler it didn't overheat to the point where you couldn't game.

EDIT 1
Additional info

Looking at the Aorus X7 chassis, I am sure that you would agree with me that the core electronic components are more cramped.
Link to Y50 Internals: http://news.laptop.bg/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Lenovo-Y50-70-2.jpg

The biggest reason that I can think of for why they wouldn't have an SLI version is that they had the ultimate machine on display at CES, and it was single GPU.

 

The same question would be for the internal blue-ray/dvd drive. If you look at the specs this year Y50 is not really that much smaller. Y510p was 5.95lbs, Y50 touch is 5.7lbs, Y50 non-touch is 5.3lbs. You can find space there. Dell XPS 15 went from 5.9lbs to 4.4lbs with upgraded internals and same battery life.

 

For the Canadians out there, I was able to get the 512SSD, 4710, 4GB VRAM, 16GB RAM model for $1459 before tax. Now the tax in my Province is one of the largest in Canada, so I'm still a bit skeptical. Anyone have any additional coupons or workarounds?

A review of the North American model would help tremendously. Some general impressions on the screen, battery life and track pad are pretty much the 3 uncertainties that are bugging me the most.

 

Anyone know where Captain Popeye is, or did Lenovo break his heart?