Y50 Thread

I think it's because some people like to watch movies together on the sofa... if you're just one person using the laptop, it's no issue.

 

About the 4700 vs 4710: will the refreshed CPU use the new thermal interface material?

If so, that should mean a real improvement in cooling - lower temperatures and less noise. Would be a good selling point for me. But I don't know if all the refreshed haswells have that.

 

Not sure why 4700 vs 4710 is being made such a deal of. Just spend the extra 10 and get the 4710...

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really? you saying an architecture nick named "Hotwell" doesn't run that hot? LOL indeed heat comes from voltage more than clock speed but in order to achieve higher clock speed you need higher voltage. 0.1 GHz may not be much for CPU but that depends on how much voltage they pushed up, which still won't. the heat thing is a joke if you can't tell by now. the point is to make fun of how pointless the refresh is

 

For anyone interested, there are three new models of y40 on lenovo canada here
Differences are: i7 4510 and R9 M275 2GB and 1TB SSHD (8GB cache)

edit: the R9 M275 is used in the Gigabyte Brix here
it should be a rebranded 8890m

 

Interdasting.... an r9 275m.

 

That's pretty cool! Mostly that us Canadians are getting region-specific models - this gives me hope that an i7-4710, 512GB SSD, Touch Y50 might be released here. Or at least a Touch Y50 with SSD; I don't want to muck around with the insides myself and want to void my warranty even less. And a matte display combined with reflective bezel still doesn't make much sense to me, although I've stopped caring as much about it. I just want a Y50 with i7-4700/4710 and a GTX860 for under $1500 already!

The Y40 is clearly a different computer than the Y50 and has its own pros (as opposed to just cons). The processor should save a lot of battery life and heat output compared to the i7-4700 and the R9 M275 is a nice mid-range graphics card compared to the very powerful but power-hungry GTX860. So I guess Y40 is pretty much an ultrabook (one that is a lot more gaming-capable than most) while the Y50 is a real gaming laptop. I already have a light, ultrabook-y laptop in my Acer TimelineX 3820 from 4 years ago that is still wonderful (I seriously think it's the best product Acer ever made), so I'm definitely going with the Y50 for power. But I don't think Lenovo's choices on the Y40 have been that dumb - they're just aimed at a different audience and I would even be tempted to get one if not for my TimelineX and my preference for the Y50's shiny aluminum lid.

 

Lenovo (US) has yet again added some more models. If you go the the general 'Y Series page.' they have now separated the Y50 into 'Y50' and 'Y50 Touch' models.

One of the Y50 models now specifies a Blu-Ray/DVD-RW model, and there are now 3 Touch models (none of which offering an SSD). You can now get touch with the intel 4710HQ, 4GB GTX 860M, and 16GB of ram, but the two newer models currently do not have a discounted price.

Check it out:

Lenovo Y Series | Premium Multimedia Laptops | Lenovo (US)

 

What on earth is the rationale for not including SSD in the Touch models? Is it that hard for them to understand that quite a few customers want to purchase the Y50 pimped out with every possible feature? It's beyond lame that we have to compromise in one area to get a marketed feature like Touch...Just release an "all-dressed" model Lenovo!

 

Both the r9 m275x and the 860m have TDP of 50, so I don't know where you're basing the theory that 860m takes up more power.

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Both the r9 m275x and the 860m have TDP of 50, so I don't know where you're basing the theory that 860m takes up more power. If your going for a 14 inch, capable gaming laptop, the gigabyte p34g v2 is still the best choice.




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860M has 45W not 50W

 

Game debate has it as 50w where as some other sources have it as 45. Not a big deal, but my point still stands

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Oops, my mistake! I incorrectly assumed that the 860 would use more power since it is significantly stronger and the use of a low-voltage processor in the Y40 seemed to indicate that Lenovo intended that machine to be more power-conscious and cool than the Y50. I suppose when using integrated graphics my point still stands though, right? And that should be the case for all tasks where battery life is at all useful, like taking notes in class or watching a movie in the middle of the day. Gaming without a power cord handy is going to be terrible on both computers anyways - you'll be lucky to get an hour and a half in.

 

Hopefully the SSD configurations will appear soon, that very much will seals the deal for people looking to get the top-tier Y50 with 1080p screen and touch.
And hopefully the 4K configurations are not far behind.

 

I like how Lenovo is releasing so many different configurations though! Unless they're really dumb, a Touch model with SSD will come up soon and they'll have all of their bases covered with regards to customization. I'm leaning towards Touch again but I keep flip-flopping, lol. For me it'll depend on shipping time and the price of an SSD Touch model. Today is supposed to be the last day of the "Up to 40% Off" Y510 and Y410 sale in Canada. It was supposed to end on the 16th, actually, but they extended it by a week, which is pretty lame. Hopefully this means that Y50 models will appear tomorrow - it would make sense.

 

yes please!

[edit: regarding the canada thing]

 

Yeah, I hope to see an 512 SSD with touch soon as well. It does need a decent discount for me to pull the trigger, though. I find it odd some configurations don't have any discount applied.

 

Hi guys so, after talking to a rep i was able to get a 13% discount off the Lenovo Y50 Touch - 59421835 - Black 1699 "that had no discount price", plus a student discount, so ended up getting a decent deal off the model, & i got confirmation there is an ssd option for the y50 touch you just have to swap out ssds you guys have any recommendations for an ssd, i was looking at the Intel 730 SERIES 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SSDSC2BP480G4R5 any other suggestions?

"FYI Since i live in oregon sales tax free woot woot" my price ended up being 1445.12 after student discount and 13% off 1699.

I encourage you guys to pick up this model if your on the fences for touch screen , and just grab a decent ssd.if your sceptical of the 1699$ Lenovo Y50 Touch - 59421835 - Black discount just talk to a rep and ur all set. for 1495.12 plus tax

hope this helps ill link my confirmation once its ready.

 

Cool, that's nice of them! What is your expected shipping time? The longer I wait the more restless I'm becoming and faster delivery is becoming more important to me than debatable features like Touch vs Non-Touch or 16GB RAM vs 8GB RAM or 4GB VRAM vs 2GB VRAM. Whatever. Put in perspective, the only thing that really matters is getting the Y50's awesome design, i7-4700/4710 processor, and 860GB Maxwell graphics card for a good price before I go totally insane from waiting.

 

my expected date is june 11th but as far as to shipping they have rushed delivery if you desire it. but i was allso told could easily see it as soon as 6/04 but im optimistic ill see it maybe sooner.

on a side note mine comes with

4th Generation Intel Core i7-4710HQ Processor (2.50GHz 1600MHz 6MB)
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Operating System
Windows 8.1 64
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Display
15.6" FHD LED Backlit Multitouch (1920x1080)
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Graphics
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M 4GB
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Memory
16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
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Hard Drive
Hybrid 1TB 5400 RPM+8GB SSHD
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Optical Drive
None
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Network Card
Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 3160
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Bluetooth
Bluetooth Version 4.0
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Warranty
One year
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Battery
4 Cell 54 Watt Hour Lithium-Ion

excluding the ssd this is the best model you can get behind the obvious 4k version later on down the road, and just got confirmation its an fhd tn samsung panal to all thoughs who were hoping for it to be ips plus tn is better gaming i f'ing hate ips ghosting issues anywho : P

 

Okay, that's not so bad. A lot better than October or whatever year some people here expect to receive their laptops.

 

yea people need to ease off the jesus juice all that hysteria aint good for your brain. my expected date jumped from 6/11 to 6/06 so seems to be just fine on my end

 

I would get the Samsung 840 Evo 500GB or 250GB. Currently the most popular and top quality SSD on the market at the moment. I have a 250GB myself and its awesome.

 

Isn't replacing the hard drive a pain though? I'm sure it's a piece of cake for those who've done it before, and I've taken a computer hardware course and would definitely be able to figure it out. But it sounds so annoying, lol, and has a bunch of risks like voiding warranty or snapping a plastic hook on the underside or something. Just backing everything up sounds really annoying to me; I've never bothered to do full backups of my machine apart from important personal files once in a while. I've already flip-flopped back to Non-Touch.
Non-Touch is lighter, less fragile, and requires less cleaning too; from early reviews the matte screen doesn't seem bad at all for colours and I'm sure I'd get used to the finish. I actually just noticed my external monitor is matte and I use it all the time, haha. Given how uncertain I am about Touch even if it was free, the only way I think I'll flip-flop back to it is if a very convenient Touch+SSD model comes out at the same time as the Non-Touch model (in Canada). Otherwise as soon as the Non-Touch i7-4710 arrives here, I'm pulling the trigger. Or heck, even the i7-4700.

 

Is the mSATA SSD + Hybrid HDD comparable to the speed of an SSD. I've been watching a few videos and reviews and it seems that SSD is still more superior. In that case, if I were to get my own SSD and swap it out for the hybrid HDD, would it void the warranty ?
Thanks !

 

The second that you open the computer, the warranty will be voided. As for the speed, an SSD will always be faster than an HDD, regardless of whether it is hybrid or not. It's pretty easy to swap out drives, I would totally recommend just getting the HDD and replacing it with an SSD. It's cheaper aftermarket anyway.

 

I see. That's the problem. I'm gonna be overseas for another 2 years. The warranty would be very important for me. Either way, I already have an SSD from my old laptop. It's just 128gb though, and since there's no optical drive, space would be very limited. I'm judging my options atm so yeah but thanks for the reply !

 

In that case you should stick with the HD + 8GB SSD, since 128 GB its just too little space, you would void your warranty and you cant have two drives on the Y50 anyways (I am right on that last one?).

I can confirm SSHD is way better than simple HD for booting and opening frequent programs like your browser and such, of course is not as good as SSD but its a nice middle point for a good price.

 

Sorry I have a few question way too many replies to read through this lol.

Will the y50 have kepler or maxwell gpu?
Anyone know if there is more than one msata slot ?
and will the dvd drive be able to be replaced with an hdd caddy.
links to reviews and the like would also be appreciated.

 

GPU will be Maxwell for both 2GB and 4GB versions
Nobody knows for sure about the DVD Drive, site says something like "Integrated DVD drive" but most users here think that can't be possible since there is no space on the laptop body design to fit it (maybe using the Y510p body?)

 

1. All the models are Maxwell
2. I really hope that there is more than one. However, the Y510p has 2 slots, but one was 2.5" and the other was m.2, the least common form of SSD.
3. They probably won't have any DVD drives, even though they keep saying that one model will have one.
Sorry, but the best advice that I can give you right now for reviews is actually this forum. Anything on YouTube is either in Bulgarian or is a CES "let's sell you on this product" review.

 

I still think that if they actually include a DVD drive, it will be an external portable drive bundled with that model.

 

Well, I decided to go for the Y50 over the 2013 Razer Blade. Does anyone know whether the 4GB card is actually worth it? I would assume that it would help more in professional-grade photo/video applications rather than in games.

 

How would the battery life of the 512 gb ssd model with the 4710M and 4gb VRAM compare to the baseline model? I don't really need the 4gb, but the SSD models all have 4gb of VRAM .-.

 

A couple of questions about the touchscreen. Will the touchscreen model weigh more than the regular screen? as in would it be much of a difference.

For those people interested in the touchscreen, what would you really use it for? I can't stand the metro interface so I always go into desktop mode automatically. Is the touchscreen really that useful?

 

The touchscreen model will weight slightly more due to the digitizer and other additional touch components ( it won't weight that much more). I will be using it for web browsing when laying in bed at nights ( pinching, zooming and tapping is sometimes more convenient when relaxing in bed). But ultimatly the touch will be use to impress friends and family when they ask what a beautiful laptop you've got there

 

it would, but I don't see any reason to get it unless you are a pro photo/video editor, and even for that 2GB is acceptable. 4k is a different story

 

That's some BS if swapping hard drives voids warranty -.-

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5.7lbs with touchscreen vs 5.3lbs without - so yes it is heavier and not by little. I don't like that part at all - Y50 was supposed to be slimmer than Y510p and yet that was 5.95lbs. The guy at CES said it was like 4lbs which is awesome. 5.3 still works but 5.7 you are getting on the heavier side.

I also have a touchscreen laptop and I use it. Not all the time but when I do - its really awesome.

 

Photo editing yes + if you mod your games with texture mods. This issue has been raised number of times here at the thread. I used to play Skyrim on my HD6990m with 2gb VRAM and ran into VRAM ceiling which resulted in stuttering despite the raw GPU power. This was due to texture and other mods.

 

My question was how's the battery life vs baseline, I know I really won't need the 4gb of VRAM but the SSD models all have 4gb.

 

California taxes
Why does lenovo tax cali.

 

Yeah thats a tough choice for me, almost .5 lbs can add quite a bit of weight, and even though touchscreens are nice, in desktop mode maybe I will use them 5% of the time if that, not to mention all the usage that will show on the screen, really do not know if it is worth it.

 

True. I guess I can work with a slightly slower speed. I heard SSHD gets faster overtime (?) not too sure.

 

Yeah, I don't know though. I'll ask the sales representative before doing so.

 

well be glad that you aren't carrying something like a clevo or alienware...

 

On the non-touch model, the base price of the model with 4700 and the model of the 4710 is the same, but the discounts make it so the price difference is $10. But on the touch model, the base price between the 4700 model and the 4710 model is $50. Currently the 4710 model doesn't have any discount applied, but if they apply the same discount (dollar amount) that they did on the 4700 model, then the 4710 will be $50 more.

 

Is the 860M 4gb maxwell or kepler? I have not heard of a 4gb 860M maxwell yet .-.

 

Its Maxwell.