Y50 Thread

I ordered around 12 May. Looked again and the delivery date slipped to 30 May. Again, nice that something is happening.

 

To clarify this, the final price is $1259 (not $270 off $1259). For anyone who misread it initially, like I did.

With that particular model, that's basically $10 more for 8 GB more RAM w/o (compare to model 59421847 @ $1249, of note this model "has a blu-ray drive") or $100 more for 8 GB RAM & 2 GB VRAM (compare to model 59421845 @ $1159). Not a bad deal, but not really an impressive one either.

 

This is all the info we have at the moment:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ide...ad-post9665643.html?highlight=FAQ#post9665643

Someone might be having their laptop delivered this week, which will be our first review, but as yet we have no specifics regarding temps, noise, etc etc

 

Just sign up for a Corporate Perks account and you'll save ~$100 on each model. Its free to sign up and only takes a minute or two.

NOTE: No, this coupon does not work with corporate perks. $1,259 is apparently the lowest it can go (for now)

 

I just posted a few pages ago proving the y70 is an abandoned model and yet people are still arguing about it... sigh

 

Sorry to everyone that was hoping for some production model hands on tonight, the tracking now says it will be delivered tomorrow instead of today. Looks like the customs hold up (for reasons unknown other than customs being stupid as usual) pushed the delivery back a day.

I will post when I know more, but that sure looks like it will be tomorrow. I will try and answer as many, and hopefully all of your questions at that point in time.

 

I wonder when I would get my y50 if I order on Thursday.

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FWIW (and with all the stories and rep confusion, it's probably not worth much), my sales rep promised that he had actually seen a Y50 1080p Touch model in person and that all touch models have glossy screens. He said that the non-touch models are matte, and that's why for those models the listing specifies "antiglare" which you don't see in the touch listings. I asked if he minded that I was saving the chat log and purchasing based on his word, and he said that was fine because he had seen it with his own eyes. Allegedly, the viewing angles are fantastic and the screen is beautiful, leading me to think that all touch models (future 4k edition included) are indeed that Samsung version of IPS.

Grain of salt, I guess.

 

The touch models right now? Because its been stated like countless times by reps that at least the FHD screens are TN

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Decent deal compared to the regular price on Lenovo's site, but it's basically $100 more than the version with 8 GB of RAM and 2 GB of VRAM. Since the vast majority of people will never need that additional RAM and VRAM, it's kind of pointless to spend that extra $100 unless you know you're going to need that extra stuff. In my opinion, that extra $100 would be much better applied toward an SSD to replace the HDD.

 

I'm not sure what you're trying to communicate here. Is it that the Touch screen models are glossy? That's always been known, because it's a requirement for having a touch screen. Is it that the non-touch screens are matte? I suppose that depends on your definition of "matte" and "anti-glare." We'll have to wait and see what the reviews say about those screen finishes. If it's that the 1080p touch models are IPS, then you're definitely mistaken.

 

So I contacted customer service just now since my order on may 11th is still released to manufacturing and has an estimated shipping date of June 20th. The rep said that there was something wrong with the ssd?? (I ordered the base touch model with the hybrid drive). He didn't know much about it and i also had a hard time understanding him but did say that was unacceptable and is applying a 5% discount when it ships.

Has anyone who has ordered a y50 touch before may 20th received an email from ups concerning shipping??

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Three points here.

1.) Most laptop touchscreens are glossy, but glossy is not a requirement for a touchscreen. I have seen many touchscreen laptops, displays, and all-in-ones with matte touch displays. Look at this laptop- it has a matte touchscreen. Samsung Series 5 Ultra Touch: An impressive touchscreen ultrabook Ultrabook | Ultrabooks | ThinkDigit Features

2.) If you want matte but can only get glossy, get one of these (or something like it)
http://www.amazon.com/15-6-Laptop-W...sr=8-1&keywords=laptop+matte+screen+protector

3.) If anyone hasn't ordered the Y50 yet, the base model is now officially labeled as "in stock" on the KO listing on Amazon. Link - Amazon.com : Lenovo Y50 Laptop Computer - 59416755 - Black - 4th Generation Intel Core i7-4700HQ / 8GB RAM / 15.6" FHD 1920x1080 Display / NVidia GeForce 860M 2GB / 1TB HDD + 8GB SSD / Dual Band Wireless AC / Windows 8.1 : Computers & Accessories

 

IPS is known for the great colors and viewing angles, but TN panels can have those qualities as well. I wouldn't be surprised if it is just a really good TN panel with good viewing angles, much like the Y510p. 4K should be IPS because people getting 4K are probably looking for accurate color representation for photo or video editing programs, but I don't think that it will be. (Just my opinion though, you may be right)

 

Guys, I would highly recommend at this point buying it from Amazon. It's cheaper than on Lenovo's site and you will definitely get it next week at most, but likely this week. heibk201 mentioned the company rep a few pages ago, if you were waiting out buying for a better deal this is the best you will probably get, at least for a few months.

 

I ordered my Y50 yesterday through Amazon. Today I received an email stating it was already shipped; I checked the UPS tracking number and the package is currently in Gaithersburg, MD.

 

Any risks of it selling out on Amazon? I'm very anxious to get this laptop and may have to jump at this!

Is the storage on the one on Amazon a hybrid HDD / SSD? I heard SSDs have a fast boot time and that the hybrids were pretty fast too. I am fairly inexperienced and am having trouble figuring this out from the specs alone.

 

Anyone knows where the 8GB SSD is located, I'm planning to remove it and the HDD too once I get the laptop. But looking at the inside picture a few pages ago, I cannot seem to know where it is.

 

Yes, it is the SSHD hybrid. Personally, I don't care much for a 4-second boot time of a SSD, so hybrids work for me. The SSHD in the Y50 should likely have a boot time of under a minute. I can't see them selling out today if that's what you're worried about. Even if they do, there will be an ebay listing within the next day. Also, if you want the "higher end" Y50 with extra RAM and the 4GB graphics card, they will have them in stock on June 4th.

Stuff that the Amazon model has-

8GB RAM - plenty for most needs.

1 TB HDD - has a partition of 8GB SSD. It automatically puts more commonly used files on this section.

2GB GTX 860M - very good for most "casual" gamers; also works for hardcore gaming.

Screen - FHD TN panel, matte display. Fast response time.

 

It isn't exactly an individual drive. Unfortunately, there is no mSATA or m.2 SATA port for SSD expansion. The 8GB SSD is just a partition of the 1TB SSD.

Something I am curious about though: does anyone know if it is at all possible to take out the m.2 NGFF wifi card and replace it with an SSD? Then you could use a USB wireless connection and/or ethernet connection. Anyone tried it?

 

people have done it before according to tieba and it's a better solution to solve the crappy wifi card problem, but it takes up a usb port

 

That sounds about right for me! I am mostly casual with sporadic bouts of hardcore gaming. The 2GB GTX 860M will likely have less heat output than the 4GB version... yeah?

Any concerns about the wifi card on this model? I read some other pages where people were interested in replacing it.

 

Yes, although it may not be significantly less heat, being a new Maxwell chip it will have less heat output. Not to mention the exhaust vents are really convenient in that they are behind the hinge, where your hands likely won't be.

As for the WiFi card, it isn't awful. However, for ~$40 you can pick up the top of the line Intel AC Wireless 7260 card on Newegg, tax free in most states (US). The 3160 is 1x1, while the 7260 is 2x2. Personally, I will be keeping the included card.


EDIT

Wrong link, this is the right one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106190

 

Hi everyone - first time posting/newly registered, but have been following this particular thread daily since the near beginning! You guys have been truly insightful and knowledgeable. Now to the background & following question...

The y50 would only be my second Lenovo laptop, though I am fairly keen on desktop hardware upgrades, etc. I have not opened up my current laptop because there was no need - the HDD was replaced with an SSD via an external access slot already built in. I do not recall seeing any warranty stickers on the HDD caddy.

So, my 1st question to you is: Is it standard for Lenovo (based on your documented recent laptop purchases, i.e. y510p, etc) to see warranty stickers on the internal hard drive caddy making replacement virtually impossible without losing warranty? I do not intend on reusing the OEM SSHD and would replace it if sending back for warranty repair.

Thanks again for your thoughtful answers. I look forward to seeing the responses!

 

So I tried to find out what "normal" is. Looks like Lenovo Canada 24/7 chat support is down. That's not normal.

 

I have a quick question about the release dates for Europe/the UK - obviously it's impossible to tell when exactly the laptop will come over here, but I was wondering if anybody knows the rough time frame for a laptop crossing the Atlantic for any previous laptops etc?
If it normally takes months I'd probably have to opt for getting it from America and dealing with the +20% tax (even though that's sometimes cheaper all in) than waiting all summer as my current is on its last legs, but it'd be nice to know if anybody has a rough estimate for these kinds of things.

 

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Guys, I thought we were all fairly certain that the 4GB GTX860 chip will also be a Maxwell. It is what every single Lenovo rep has said (they are usually not wrong on issues they all agree on), it is what the US website was updated to display, and it is what would make the most sense. Adding another 2GB VRAM to the regular card wouldn't be that hard for Lenovo to do and wouldn't take up much more room on the Maxwell card. Whereas the 4GB Kepler GTX860 is a much bulkier card with MXM-type dimensions: it would likely require a chassis redesign or tweak to even fit into the same location as the Maxwell GTX860. Finally, it would make absolutely zero sense for Lenovo to include a stronger card in a lower-end, cheaper model of their computer, and they would off a lot of people if they did that.

So at the very least it is EXTREMELY PROBABLE that the 4GB GTX860 card is also a Maxwell and thus would have exactly the same heat output as the 2GB card. Why are you bringing up dust around this issue again and confusing other posters?

 

I'm not sure if maybe you quoted the wrong post? I don't see anything in the post you quoted questioning whether the GPU will be Maxwell. He simply says that because it's Maxwell, it won't produce as much heat as previous gen GPUs.

 

Jeez, sorry for trying to be helpful man! It's not that I don't think that it will be Kepler, as the Kepler version has *so far* only been MXM. I was just saying that you will get less heat than previous Kepler generations.

 

Well look more carefully. The question that bpr5016 asked was "The 2GB GTX 860M will likely have less heat output than the 4GB version... yeah?" and H01D3N answered "Yes, although it may not be significantly less heat, being a new Maxwell chip it will have less heat output.".

That is explicitly saying that the 4GB chip will have more heat output (which is not true for a 2GB Maxwell vs 4GB Maxwell) and implies that the the 4GB GTX860M is NOT a "new Maxwell chip with less heat output". Which is very unlikely....It doesn't look like the Y50 even has an MXM slot to fit it in: the graphics cards in all of the models should be soldered, which means they are all Maxwell.

 

Oh, sorry for lashing out, dude! You phrased what you meant very strangely, though perhaps I did jump on the details too much.

 

Cause that's where we ship from!

Brian
Klick Online

 

Well, reading it again, it still make sense. He asked, "The 2GB GTX 860M will likely have less heat output than the 4GB version... yeah?" I said, "Yes, although it may not be significantly less heat, being a new Maxwell chip it will have less heat output." Let's go through this. There are 2 chips. 2GB Maxwell and 4GB Kepler. Right? He asked if the 2GB chip will have less heat output than the 4GB chip. Well, we know that the 2GB chip is Maxwell and the 4GB chip is Kepler. Therefore, it is correct to say that the 2GB chip will have less heat than the 4GB chip, as long as the 4GB chip mentioned is assumed to be the more commonly used Kepler MXM variant.

On a side note, you can apparently have soldered 2GB Kepler. I had never heard of this variant before but I did some reading on this forum.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...74-new-details-about-nvidia-s-maxwell-90.html
Other Resource
http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-17-m17x/752758-gtx-860m-maxwell-kepler.html
Another Resource
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/751352-860m-beast-15.html
(Semi) Full list of laptops with 860M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

It just seems like the 2GB Maxwell vs 4GB Maxwell vs 4GB Kepler vs 2GB Kepler (?) is a case-by-case situation.

Sorry if I sound like I am arguing the point that it could be any variant, but I'm just stating all different comparisons.

And for the guy who was asking about the heat in the first place, I would still go with the 2GB. It's not worth the price difference, and you will get you laptop a week or two earlier.

 

I just ordered from you guys as well while cancelling my Lenovo order.. Hope mine gets here soon!!

 

Wait a second. I was defending you above because it seemed like arcturar misunderstood something you stated. But now it's pretty clear that arcturar was correct. Please stop bringing up the 4GB Kepler card in relation to the Y50. The Y50 will not have a Kepler card, period. There's no point in bringing it up in hypotheticals or comparisons. It's simply not going to happen.

The more you perpetuate stuff like this, the more we're going to have multiple pages of newbies coming into the thread asking about whether the 4GB card is Maxwell or Kepler, and then we'll have pages of people debating back and forth. Let's just take Lenovo's information as being correct and accept that both the 2GB and 4GB cards will be Maxwell and let's all operate on that assumption unless/until we find out something to the contrary.

 

Shouldn't be too long! Now that we are in stock, systems should be going out within a day of purchase. Depending on how close you are to MD, will generally arrive within 1-5 business days. We've already sold half our stock of the base Y50 - seems to be significant demand for these systems. Hope the reviews end up turning out well!

 

Ahhh, the downside to internet communication! Yeah, its fine, I won't bring it up again. But seriously, read my last sentence in your quote. "Therefore, it is correct to say that the 2GB chip will have less heat than the 4GB chip, as long as the 4GB chip mentioned is assumed to be the more commonly used Kepler MXM variant." I wasn't suggesting that the Y50 would have it. I was just saying that straight comparison between the 2GB Maxwell card and 4GB card commonly associated with being Kepler would have the 2GB running cooler. I do think that it will be Maxwell in both variants, but the guy asked 2GB vs 4GB, and I immediately thought Maxwell vs Kepler.

So here's how it goes:
Arcturar was correct, but based off a misunderstanding of me
You were correct, but based off a misunderstanding off arcturar and I
I was correct, but based off a misunderstanding of the OP

I agree that we should assume that it is Maxwell until reviews start tomorrow. Good?

 

Just an FYI.

I posted before that I bought model# 59421845 (4710HQ model) on 5/16 with an original expected ship date of 5/30. Lenovo moved that date to 6/30. Since 6/30 is simply too late for me (I want a laptop by the 10th) I cancelled the order and bought the base on Amazon yesterday (as others have). The laptop shipped today.

Also, when I tried to cancel Lenovo offered me a 5% discount to keep my order which I declined.

So if you want the base model you might have an alternative. If you think you may want to cancel but that 5% discount could make the difference for you call them up and tell them.

If you ordered a system with the 4710HQ you will likely have to wait until mid-June before shipment (no evidence; just observation from posts and patterns that I have seen on expected ship times at the Lenovo site). I know that several of you talked to Lenovo and they kept saying that a part is causing a delay. I wouldn't be surprised if the part is the processor.

 

I had a problem cancelling my order since it was paid through amazon and already released to the manufacturer. The rep told me there is a good chance it will still cancel as I requested him to, but there is also a chance it ships over to me regardless and I have to ship it back to get my refund.. Needless to say my account is going to get bombed if that happens..

 

I am in the tedious process of canceling my order with Lenovo my ship date got moved out again after ordering on the 18th, my currently laptop (T410) is finally dying out after 4 long hard years!

If you do review one I will purchase the open box model from you at full price

Just to many questions that need answering at this point for me to deal with my ship date slowly moving into the future, by the time someone answers the phone with Lenovo (Been 1.5 hours holding so far) you could probably have a review up!

 

Canceled my Lenovo order, ordering from you guys now. I border MD, so...

Time to replace this 8-year-old Dell!

 

Canada only has i7-4710 models and I'd prefer i7-4710 to i7-4700 anyways, so I'm sticking to my order. Hopefully the tracking info come up soon: the blank cells are really starting to annoy me. I want some sort of semi-confirmation that I'm going to get this laptop within 3 weeks!

But I'm really happy you guys are going to get your Y50s soon from Amazon/Klick! Can't wait for some reviews!

 

What's the likelihood of seeing one with the 512gb SSD, the 2gb VRAM Maxwell card, and the 4710 processor? I guess I have given up on the touchscreen, but I wan't the Maxwell card and an SSD, and for only 10$ more, might as well get the upgraded i7.

 

Why would you want a Keplar over a Maxwell?

 

Woops, my bad. I confused the two. Maxwell is the newer, cooler card, right? That's what I was looking for.

 

You mean Maxwell (Maxwell > Kepler). First of all, as far as we've been told and can figure out, every Y50 will have a Maxwell card. Too many people have started questioning this again lately and confusing everyone for absolutely no reason. Nothing has changed! For a summary of why the 4GB card is very, very likely to have Maxwell architecture (despite a lack of Nvidia announcements about a 4GB Maxwell GTX860), see my post a page or two back. Anyways, the odds of the configuration you described are pretty low: Lenovo seems to be reserving the 512 GB SSDs only for the highest-end model (which has 4GB VRAM).

 

There isn't a Kepler card available on the Y50 anyway. The choices are a 2GB GTX 860m Maxwell, or a 4GB GTX 860m Maxwell. You are probably smart to be shooting for 2GB rather than 4GB, but no need to worry about Maxwell vs Kepler. And unfortunately, it seems Lenovo wants to upgrade to 4GB on nearly all models other than the lowest models, so it's probably going to be cheaper to just get the base model with a 2GB GPU and then purchase an SSD yourself with the money you save.

 

Thanks. I don't really need the extra ram, and due to cost, I would avoid it if possible, but I really want the SSD for boot-up and overall speed.

 

Yes the newer and faster one!

 

Newer, faster = better