Y50 Thread

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He said that he is going to change the wireless card later this week, and the SSD switch would be the same performance as the SSD model provided by Lenovo, so that shouldn't really make a difference. But yeah, he should run some tests before changing the laptop too much.

 

Sorry, I didn't really think that through did I?

 

Guys, I think we should make a list of things we want timothyz to test when he gets his laptop (he's the first one to get it). Right now all the ideas are all over the place. I'll start, and whenever theres a new request just copy this text and add whatever you want at the bottom.

1. Screen (viewing angles, brightness and quality)
2. Battery life (high load, browsing/watching videos and idle)
3. WiFi card (connectivity issues)
4. Temps (high load, browsing and idle)
5. Bloatware

 

before he breaks it and we have to wait another month for a review you mean? haha

1. Screen (all viewing angles, brightness and quality)
2. General build quality
3. Battery life (high load, browsing/watching videos and idle)
4. WiFi card (connectivity issues)
5. Temps (high load, browsing and idle)
6. Bloatware

 

remember to copy the top text too, other wise timothyz won't know its directed at him

 

"Guys, I think we should make a list of things we want timothyz to test when he gets his laptop (he's the first one to get it). Right now all the ideas are all over the place. I'll start, and whenever theres a new request just copy this text and add whatever you want at the bottom."

1. Screen (all viewing angles, brightness and quality)
2. General build quality
3. Battery life (high load, browsing/watching videos and idle)
4. WiFi card (connectivity issues)
5. Temps (high load, browsing and idle)
6. Bloatware
7. Gaming Performance

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1. Screen
2. Build quality
3. Battery life
4. WiFi card
5. Temps
6. Bloatware amount
7. Gaming performance
8. Fan noise
9. Speakers (how much the internal subwoofer doesn't do anything xD)

 

"Guys, I think we should make a list of things we want timothyz to test when he gets his laptop (he's the first one to get it). Right now all the ideas are all over the place. I'll start, and whenever theres a new request just copy this text and add whatever you want at the bottom. Remember to copy this paragraph too otherwise it will just be a random list."

1. Screen (all viewing angles, brightness and quality)
2. General build quality
3. Battery life (high load, browsing/watching videos and idle)
4. WiFi card (connectivity issues)
5. Temps (high load, browsing and idle)
6. Loudness of fans under different loads
7. Bloatware
8. Gaming Performance
9. Speakers

 

In order for Lenovo to do a repair it must have all original components because they are really only trained to diagnose issues with stock parts. Even thought this issue is probably not with the parts you put in they still require this. So, if you are concerned about your warranty, don't be, just keep the hard drive (and make an image of your fresh computer and keep it on a usb for later retrieval if you need to put back in the HDD, use a software like Macrium reflect Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download)

Anyways, you can replace any parts, and that won't void the warranty, though, sending your computer back with a different SSD and WiFi card would not get any repairs.

Hope that clears things up, let me know if you have other questions.

 

Yeah, I know that the reviews on you guys is exceptional. 4.9 stars out of 5 is pretty rare, especially with the amount of reviews you guys get. Actually, I've been really pleased with the answers that you guys give and everything, personal interaction with potential customers really makes you guys stand out. I've actually referred a few people I know in search of a new computer to you guys. Thanks for the quick responses both on here and through email.

 

10. Size of the HDD Drive. I wonder if the WD Dual Drive
from Amazon will fit in.

 

I think the problem here was the placement of the warranty stickers. Maybe when you get yours later could you post a picture of the bottom of the laptop as well as the inside when you do repairs?

Shouldn't it fit regardless as it is a 2.5" standard drive? Also, the WD Black dual drive is different in that the BIOS only recognizes the 120GB SSD. If you don't stay on top of drivers for the WD software, the 1 TB HDD will be inaccessible, as you can only access it through the programs included with the drive. Does anyone know of a workaround for this? If so, this would be a great option.

 

Thank you for that information. I didn't know it has a driver issue. I ask about the size because I saw some post a hundred pages back that indicates something about a 7mm and 9mm thing.

 

It's not really a driver issue, it's more How the thing works.

At first, only the 128gb ssd partition is viewable to your laptop. This is so that you can install your OS on it. Then you download the driver s which opens up the 1 terabyte partition.

There are two standard sizes for hard drives, 2.5 and 3.5 inch. Laptops are always 2.5 inches.

 

The reason I would personally label it as a driver thing is because you have to rely on updated drivers to keep the HDD portion running right. I wouldn't exactly call it a driver issue either, because it works, as long as you download the most current versions of the drivers. Plus, the SSD is not meant for the OS alone. You can install the OS on the HDD if you really want to and put 3 of these new 40 gig games on the SSD. That's what I would do at least, because I would rather speed up my games and programs than have a 5 second boot time or make an OS run faster, which isn't really what an OS is used for anyway; it's just a gateway to your programs really. It's still a great option though.

 

Curious - when I chatted with Lenovo reps, they definitely confirmed that a HDD swap would void the warranty, but that I could open up the laptop and add RAM without voiding the warranty. That leads me to believe that either there is a warranty sticker on the HDD or none at all and they are just saying that b/c they don't want to deal with customer hard drives and driver issues.

1. Screen (all viewing angles, brightness and quality)
2. General build quality
3. Battery life (high load, browsing/watching videos and idle)
4. WiFi card (connectivity issues)
5. Temps (high load, browsing and idle)
6. Loudness of fans under different loads
7. Bloatware
8. Gaming Performance
9. Speakers
10. Size of the HDD Drive.
11. Photos of the placement of any warranty stickers

 

Actually;

1. As long as you download one version of the driver, the HDD section will open up, you don't have to keep updating the drivers (I am 99% sure this is the case)

2. It is impossible to install the OS on the HDD section because it is locked, until you download the drivers; for which you first need to install the OS (maybe you could clone the partition, but I'm pretty sure that you won't be able to boot off of it because the BIOS doesn't recognise the HDD, only the OS does). So this basically forces you to install the OS on the SSD partition. It's one of the major downsides of this drive.

Sorry for going off topic

 

OS speed relates to far more things than boot time. Most operations should get a slight speed-up if the OS is snappier. It's why Windows 8 makes laptops slightly more responsive/quicker compared to Windows 7.
In other news, on my product tracking page it now says Released to Manufacturing! There are still no estimated shipping or delivery dates but any forward change is good.

Oh, and I found another Lenovo Y50 review that I hadn't seen before! It's from CES but was very hard to find for some reason: CES 2014: Naše dojmy z IdeaPadu Y50 + video | Lenovo Blog CZ

Notice that the reviewer confidently calls the 4K screen an IPS panel! Yes this isn't proof of anything, but consider it as another tidbit of evidence. The viewing angles are so good in the video that I highly doubt it could be TN. Possibly Samsung PLS. The screen looks really good, for those who care that much about it and don't mind the long wait and the price getting jacked up (which it surely will).

Anyways, at this point I'm convinced that the 1080p panels are all TN (glossy touchscreen or matte non-touch) while the 4K panels will be IPS (glossy touchscreen). There is too much evidence pointing to IPS for the latter, probably most importantly that 4K TN panels don't seem to exist.

 

1. Screen (all viewing angles, brightness and quality)
2. General build quality
3. Battery life (high load, browsing/watching videos and idle)
4. WiFi card (connectivity issues)
5. Temps (high load, browsing and idle)
6. Loudness of fans under different loads
7. Bloatware
8. Gaming Performance
9. Speakers
10. Size of the HDD Drive.
11. Photos of the placement of any warranty stickers
12(?). Record yourself changing HDD (or any other hardware) for us newbs

This means that 4K + SSD + 4710 + 4GB 860M web price is easily going to go over $2000

 

nope, there are also height differences. most ssd are 7mm while the majority of 2.5" hdd are 9.5mm. there are slim hdd that are 7mm and looking at the internal parts of y50, a 9.5mm may not fit. the i5 models released in china all used a WD slim HDD to make sure it fits

 

For timothyz:

1. Screen (all viewing angles, brightness and quality)
2. General build quality
3. Battery life (high load, browsing/watching videos and idle)
4. WiFi card (connectivity issues)
5. Temps (high load, browsing and idle)
6. Fan noise under different loads
7. Speakers and Subwoofer
8. Gaming Performance
9. Bloatware
10. Record yourself changing HDD (or any other hardware) for us newbs
11. Size of the HDD Drive
12. Photos of the placement of any warranty stickers


btw bloatware can be removed by The PC Decrapifier Wipes Unwanted Junk | The PC Decrapifier hence why i've at least moved it down the priority list

and here is the youtube clip for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMGX6UnCASE

 

Lenovo does have the best deals by far out of any laptop company, but yeah, I would be extremely surprised if the top 4K model was under $2000 (probably there will only be one 4K model anyways, judging by Lenovo's laziness to add more SSD models to the FHD models and its confirmation that all 4K models will be Touch). On the other hand, the Dell XPS 15 has a very, very nice screen (also Touch) and only costs around $2300 for the top model. The Y50 does have a far better graphics card, which is more expensive, but they also won't overprice the system like Dell does. So while I doubt the 4K could cost much less than $2000, I also doubt it would cost much more than $2000. Factoring in tax, getting the FHD model probably saved me $600-$700, which I'm happy with. My eyesight isn't the best anyways and I'm used to a 1366x768 13" display: my mind should be blown even by the 1080p, lol.

 

Well, this one here ( amazon.de ) says it has a UHD screen 3840x2160 , and goes for 1499 euros, which is about 2040 $. I'm not totally sure, but Germany has 19% VAT, so it would be about 1650 $ without it. I'm not sure if it really works this way tough. For example, an rMBP 13 with 8GB ram and 256GB ssd is 1499 euros while the same model is 1499 dollars.

 

Not if we can help it! Just as interested to see what the price will be - we're at the timeframe that Lenovo said they should be releasing them.

 

switzerland also lists the 4k model for CHF 1599 which is about $1779

https://www.digitec.ch/ProdukteDetails2.aspx?Reiter=Details&Artikel=302545

 

Yeah, notebook drives are always 2.5" but droidfury is correct here as well. He's referring to the actual thickness of the drive. And with the form factor of the Y50 I'd say he's right to be concerned. Example: The Samsung 840 EVO we all seem so fond of (I got one for my Y50 too lol) is a 7mm drive but in the notebook upgrade kit they actually include a 2mm spacer for older/larger notebooks.

And one other thing..why don't we let the guy show off his laptop at his own pace instead of making all these lists of demands of him? Let them at least enjoy their ~$1300 investment first? It's not like we're paying them for it. We're going to have all the information we could want pretty soon here with the Amazon seller shipping so fast.

 

As long as the 4GB GTX860 turns out to be Maxwell, which it should, I'm feeling more and more happy about my laptop and model choice.
I thought some more about Touch and really doubt I would have used it enough to justify having fingerprints all over my screen and having to carry around 5.7 pounds every day instead of 5.3. And just the other day my girlfriend and I were watching "Her" on her super glossy Macbook Pro and I realized how much less annoying a matte screen would be for all the really dark scenes. Since its 1080p, the Y50's screen should look far more crisp than my current screen, even though it's matte. So I'm pretty content.

 

no!! hehe

 

True, we are jumping on this like a pack of hungry, rabid wolves, but thats only because lenovo let us starve anyway, we are not forcing Timothyz to do anything, we are merely asking that, when he does get his laptop, that he lets us know how it shapes up in these categories.

For timothyz:

1. Screen (all viewing angles, brightness and quality)
2. General build quality
3. Battery life (high load, browsing/watching videos and idle)
4. Temps (high load, browsing and idle)
5. Fan noise under different loads
6. WiFi card (connectivity issues)
7. overall portability (bulkiness, size/wattage of power bar, chassis flex if any, etc)
8. Speakers and Subwoofer
9. Gaming Performance
10. Bloatware
11. Record yourself changing HDD (or any other hardware) for us newbs
12. Size of the HDD Drive
13. Photos of the placement of any warranty stickers

 

I wouldn't take off VAT to work out to american, a straight conversion usually gives best results. I've been working out the costs of a bunch of laptops recently and even including the +20% import tax to even it out america is still normally cheaper, and things that are $999 tend to be £999 anyway (with similar figures for Euros though I've tested that less). If it's 1499 euros it'll probably just be around $2000 (as a rough estimate), rather than being cheaper due to tax. Obviously it's impossible to tell the cost yet but that's where I would ballpark it at judging by the other currencies (which is sad as 4k is now completely out of budget - which I expected but hell I'm an optimist).

 

I'm the one who started this list, and I didn't do it because I wanted him to answer my questions immediately. I think we can agree that if this list wasn't here, everyone would jump on him with a ridiculous amount of questions once he revealed that he had got his laptop. So to prevent that I started the list. Also, there were many different questions that were being thrown around randomly so the whole mess was just confusing.

Nobody is forcing timothyz to do anything. In fact, he could stick a big fat middle finger at the forum and delete his account, it wouldn't make a difference to him. I just wanted to save everybody a headache and also bring a bit order to the forum.

Wait, am I turning into Hitler?!

P.S. timothyz, take your time, nobody is forcing you to do anything

 

You just said 999$ becomes 999£, so shouldn't 1499€ (which is about 1200£ I think, not sure about current rates) become 1200$ ?
Anyway I'm in Italy, and 1499€ is still over my budget, I'll probably buy a Fhd/ 512 ssd model if it stays under 1100-1200€

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For the people who ordered the Blu-ray model from Lenovo, I just talked with a rep. and she said that that model will be shipped from manufacturing on the 18th. The reason it is taking so long is because of high demand for that model.

 

Conversions are usually far less than perfect, it converts the literal sum of money but not its actual worth in the country based on things like general living costs etc. It's like trusting google translate - it can give you a great idea but it isn't exact. For example with the $999 to £999 - a straight conversion would suggest that is should, in fact, be £598 (about £700 inc. VAT) but cost of living here is more than america and as such it's bumped up anyway almost every time to the same number or thereabouts. Iirc the y510p was $999, and in uk it was £999 too. As for the euro -> gbp -> dollars I really wouldn't convert through an extra currency like that, makes even more of a mess. For the time being and having compared a ton of laptop prices from here and america I'd still say it'd be around $2000 - as an estimate (I could be wrong, who knows how they'll decide to go about it).

And you're right, it's way over mine too. I really can't spend over £900 tops (I'd be willing to get a refurb if those existed yet) and looking at the other countries who've started listing it there's just no way I can get 4k near that, sadly. Might opt for the Klick model, it'll take a while getting here, and I'll lose my warranty but it really seems one of the better options right now.

After a review of course.

EDIT: Just checked US lenovo online and their base starts in the $800s right now - that's an even bigger gap than if it were $999. It's insane that even including shipping and a lump of VAT you can get something like this a lot cheaper abroad - you'd think the local branches would account for the discrepancy or something.

 

Haha, thanks for standing up for me? I was actually considering trolling all of you guys followed by a super in depth and documented review, but I'm not that mean. But anyways, it has been delivered to my apartment, but I am at work struggling to concentrate and just want to get back and start using my new machine.

Anyways, Thanks everyone for the list, that makes it a hell of a lot easier for me to actually answer your questions~!

In a couple hours, I hope to actually do that, haha.

 

I hope after all your waiting etc it's as good as you hoped it would be! Good luck with it tonight

 

GUYS
ITS HAPPENING
ITS FINALLY HAPPENING OH MA GAWD

Have fun with your new toy!

 

Refresh. Refresh. Refresh. Poop. Refresh.

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Man I hope lenovo is taking note on this thread.

This the first I have ever witness this level of anticipation for a laptop

 

This really is ridiculous lmao its like everyone is a kid on Christmas eve waiting for presents

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well this shows y50 has enough demands

 

if i remember correctly this thread has 470'000 views

EDIT: 3295 replies | 507246 view(s)

 

Waiting with bated breath....

 

Still can't believe the first official review of the y50 will be from an average consumer and not from official reviewers lol none the less we are close to getting ones boys

 

True... I've already provisioned 2000€ to be on the safe side but I know the y50 won't be available in France before July/August... Still excited

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for anyone who is thinking of swapping HDD for SSD, I'll just leave this HERE

seagate 480GB Slim SSD for $200 today only

 

hey timmy just an idea, how about when you get to your laptop instead of posting one monster review it would be cool if you could just post multiple smaller reviews as you go...

and then later when you covered everything and we can just summarize it

think that might be better instead of waiting for that one big post with temperatures and videos and god knows what, ya know what i'm sayin'?

No pressure, just half a million people watching

 

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This seems to be a small review of the I5 model. There's a picture of the external temperatures, and the battery life for office use seems to be 4.6 hours, which is acceptable I guess.

 

I am looking at the amazon and lenovo and I have $100 off more on lenovo because of student discount. Any chance to get it at amazon?

 

Klick (I assume that's who you're looking at) say they'd match any price, so it may be worth emailing them and asking them if you can find the same model on lenovo for cheaper - unless you're saying that you get $100 off lenovos price which is still more than the amazon price in which case I doubt they'll just give you a student discount.