Y50 Thread

That was the plan, I am going to post updates as I go!
Do you think I should start a new thread since this one has more been rumors and speculation?

 

it will be more fun to see this thread achieve the highest number of pages for a laptop in history!

 

I cannot seem to find that price on Lenovo USA


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Ahhhhhhh, I'm so excited, lol! We really are like kids on Christmas eve. I can't wait till I get my own but for now a good review will be fantastic.
If you make a new thread, post a link to it in this one.

 

I was talking about the y510p prices as a comparison between $ and £ as the y50 doesn't exist in England at all yet, and saying it was in their $800s rather than the $999 I thought remembered seeing earlier. Sorry for any confusion, should have made that clearer!

If the review turns out well I'm definitely ordering this today, I'll just get an adapter and force the keyboard to have a UK layout, I can't wait months just to pay more. Very excited

 

Metazoick, does a UK keyboard differ substantially from a US keyboard? The Canadian one just has a taller Enter key in exchange for a shorter Left Shift, basically. There are a few extra characters added to some keys but nobody cares about those. is it like that, or is there a more pronounced difference?

 

There really isn't a pronounced difference, I'm pretty sure the only real changes are a couple signs being shifted around to new locations (eg. @ and " swap) and me losing the £ sign, but I must have used that key 20 times today already so I just need to put it on the new keyboard too (both keyboards have $). It's not enough of a factor to make me wait or anything, just a bit of a nuisance.

EDIT: British and American keyboards - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This has all the differences if anybody wants a closer look, looks like the US keyboards also have a squashed enter key in comparison.

 

What do you mean you will force the keyboard to have UK layout? Like software-wise?

Heard of this website where you can order keyboard keys but it's like $5 per key kinda expensive
and they probably won't have them for y50 yet

I would totally buy one with american keyboard even though i need it in german and would switch the keys to physically be german if i could! but there is no way of doing that right now anyway, right?!

 

I met a German in Amsterdam who bought a lappie in the Netherlands (with a Dutch keyboard I'm guessing) and he just used transparent stickers on the keys that differed from the German layout..

 

thanks but i don't know if i want stickers on my laptop :- /

 

Yeah software wise, I pretty much trust my muscle memory at this point to know where " etc is even if the key face disagrees, plus I doubt you'd be able to change the enter to fill up both keys etc like in the UK version. Although maybe in the future I'd swap in a few keys just to make it make more sense. I just checked out German keyboards and yours seem slightly more different - it's even QWERTZ. But I'm pretty sure the keyboard that it comes with is what you'll have to stick with. Considering it isn't even released over in our end so far real UK/German y50 keyboards may not even exist yet haha. There's always the possibility of an external keyboard in German if it really is the only thing standing in your way?

Also I was looking at the US layout differences etc, and I know that if you use ctrl + alt + a vowel you can get it accented (eg á) which is super helpful - can somebody tell me if american keyboards have that ability too?

 

It was not an elegant solution.. but I don't think he cared either

 

Isn't 52 degrees Celsius way too hot for comfort on a keyboard? And that's an i5 model with 4gb RAM? Somebody reassure me that this is a normal temp, and the i7 4710HQ with 16GB RAM won't get much hotter...

 

Timothyz you should make a video review and put it on YouTube- it would be an easy 100k hits and probably 1k subs!

 

I can only find info on CPU/GPU temps and not outside temps (assuming that the site was quoting external temps, I can't exactly read it), but it seems as though the consensus is anything less than 90c for CPU is fine, and it's only around 90-100c that your laptop will start panicking. I can't imagine that much heat difference through the casing so I'm pretty sure that temp is fine - correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just passing on what I'm finding. The other day my laptop ran so hot that it turned itself off for safety and by that point it was too hot to even touch my skin properly (although I'm a bit of a wuss) so if you're worried about it getting hot enough to damage/throttle the internals at that temp I wouldn't be, especially if they were taken while the y40 wasn't idle. A little warmer than normal maybe, but still fine. (Again, please correct me if you know better).

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/64378-35-normal-operating-temp-core-740qm-mobile
Just saying general CPU temperatures, the image we saw wasn't really out of range if the CPU and keyboard temp were anywhere near similar.

 

This is the Erazer Y50 model apparently. In China they have "Erazer" laptops that are categorized differently than the regular versions. I can't find many differences, but they have done it with the Y510p also.

The review is pretty good though (Google Translate). I bet that this i5 model will be the model sold by big companies like TigerDirect, Best Buy, and Amazon, because they could easily offer it at $799. The downside? Dual-core CPU and only 4GB RAM.

I guess that heat on the i7-4710HQ will be greater, no?

 

Timothyz what OS are you planning to install once you change the HDD for an SSD?
I was thinking to change it for Windows 7 x64, but something tells me drivers are going to be an issue (but I hate Windows 8 so much)

 

Errr I used to dislike it too: couldn't see the point of those freakin useless tiles.
8.1 changed my mind... boot to desktop = windows 7 but...as a bonus, you get support for high-dpi, if you see what I mean (nudge nudge, wink wink)
Plus, my wife's crappy asus netbook half-convinced me that touch might actually be a good thing with windows 8.1...you get used really quickly to touch stuff and not click to gain a few milliseconds, but fingerprints are always a pain.

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I didn't bought the one with Touchscreen, if that would be the case, I would definitely leave 8.1

 

51.7C (125.6F) over the keyboard, and 57.4C (135.32F) on the hinge?

 

That's really high, but at least the entire palmrest region stayed relatively cool. This should be the right heat dispersion, because the r-t-d-f keys are right where the CPU and GPU are in the posted picture of the internals. Also, the hinge is right by the exhaust anyway. We don't really know the circumstances of the test, this could be more than any of us would push the laptop.

 

Exactly my worry, and remember the one depicted was a dual core i5. This is my first Lenovo, but haven't they had heating problems in the past? For comparison check out the much lower temps of the P34G v2 by Gigabyte (fully comparable; ultrabook form-factor, with the i7 4700HQ and the GTX 860m): GIGABYTE P34Gv2 - Video Review by XOTIC PC - YouTube

 

I'm fine with Windows 8.1 (feel free to give me crap, but I actually like Windows 8.1 except for lack of solid Google Apps)
So, what I am going to do is just clone the drive to the SSD using the Samsung transfer utility.

 

how long before you reach home

 

Dual core i5 vs i7 Quad : here . Look at the bottom for temperatures. The difference is 8°C, more or less.

I hope temperatures are lower by like 10°C, I already have a laptop that overheats, I don't want to buy another laptop just to have the same problem..

 

Good, no one is mentioning a cooling pad. Seriously though, a cooling pad won't help much with this kind of chassis. I won't be overclocking much, so hopefully it will stay within reasonable temps.

8 degrees is actually a pretty big difference. I hope this isn't the case.

 

Hi there. :hi2:

I had to create an account just for this thread. I've been following everyone's insights (and drama) for several days now. Thank you all you smart people for everything you have shared up to this point. My laptop just up and died last Thursday before randomly kicking on a couple days later allowing temporary spurts of work. But since I'm nearing the end of my current computer's lifespan, I opted to purchase the Y50 Touch on Monday due in large part to everyone's drooling on this thread.

I went for the highest end configuration (Model 59421835) on Lenovo's site since it's selling for $1399 at the moment.
Ordered 05/26/14
Estimated Ship 06/18/14
Estimated Delivery 06/25/14

And ZOMG timothy, I'm so looking forward to your review. Share with us now!

 

It seems lots of people are getting the base model to them, I'm still waiting for my multitouch with 4710hq. I'm debating whether to make a video review on my machine when I get it but I'm not sure it will get views if the base model is getting reviews. :/

 

Anyone know if a butter-fingered noob is safely capable of re-pasting the CPU and GPU for help with temps? Does XotixPC's offers (IC Diamond thermal paste, extra copper cooling) actually achieve substantial temperature reduction? What else can be done? Especially if the keyboard gets too hot to freaking touch!

 

Xotic isn't worth it at all from a price standpoint. If time is money to you, then yeah, go with them. Keep in mind, the starting price will probably be about $100 more expensive than other sites. You can get new thermal paste and apply it yourself, assuming you can get to the CPU and GPU and stuff.
Two things you need to do first, otherwise you could have a bit of a problem (by that, I mean a huge problem)
1. Turn off computer
2. Take out battery (if possible with Y50, with integrated just disconnect it if possible)
Really, its not too hard. I don't know about what else can be done, but at least with the Y510p people had pretty good luck with reapplying thermal paste. There are some tutorials online. My one recommendation: never touch any of the paste stuff with your fingers. Try using something else to apply it with. Keep in mind that doing any of this will void your warranty.

 

You can't take the battery out of this machine?

 

So we may be looking at temps as high as 140-150 degrees Fahrenheit to the touch?!!

 

I would watch it because I'm stuck between touch and non touch

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only if you take off the back lid

You can. You just can't replace it. (Technically you can, but it is very difficult)

EDIT
Don't know what happened, but apparently some admin must've merged heibk201's reply with mine. So creds out to heibk201 for the first quoted response

 

timothyz, are you planning to do an unboxing video and a video review? As stated above, since you seem to be one of the first mortals to get their hands on this highly-anticipated laptop, you'll probably get tons of hits. And if you then did a third video showing the process of swapping out the HDD for an SSD, that would get a ton of views as well.

But more to the point: Are you planning to do any baseline testing before you swap out the HDD? I think a lot of people here would really appreciate some base info with the original HDD still installed (boot up time, fan volumes, temperatures, etc.) and then run those same tests after installing the SSD so we can see the difference.

Thanks!

 

Moved the list to this page, as things are calming down now and it will be easier for timothyz to find it.

Pre-upgrades
1. Screen (all viewing angles, brightness and quality)
2. General build quality
3. Battery life (high load, browsing/watching videos and idle)
4. Temps (high load, browsing and idle)
5. Fan noise under different loads
6. WiFi card (connectivity issues)
7. Overall portability (bulkiness, size/wattage of power bar, chassis flex if any, etc)
8. Speakers and Subwoofer
9. Gaming Performance
10. Bloatware
11. Record yourself changing HDD (if possible)
12. Size of the HDD Drive
13. Photos of the placement of any warranty stickers
14. Boot up time
15. Pictures (as in not the edited things that Lenovo calls actual photos)

Post-upgrades
1. Boot time
2. Temps
3. WiFi difference?
4. Upgradability experience (Difficulty of upgrades)

Thanks again for volunteering to review your machine for us!

 

pictures of internal parts including heat pipes and fans

 

Haha, woops! That was me. I was merging tons of double/stacked posts and fat-fingered that one. It makes the thread bloated, here's how to take care of that: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sit...y-posts-using-multi-quote-inline-replies.html

 

Alright, I guess I'll kick things off!

The machine is pretty fantastic, but let's break it down sequentially.

Starters: The Screen, could be more colorful, it definitely seems pretty average. It's not a bad screen, but it could be much better.
Screen is definitely matte, and the bezel is glossy of course but they both work together and it's not a bad combination.
It's definitely sharp, and the contrast is good so that's about all I need. Let me know if you want to know more.
The viewing angles:
left to right: fantastic, couldn't be better
Top & bottom: average LCD screen plagued by all around poor to average viewing angles, could be better, though, not bad, I'll get pics up in a sec.

Overall build quality, Fantastic, the machine feels sturdy and there is little flex to be heard of. The hinges are good, and the keyboard, though having thinner keys than the y510p still types well (I am typing on it right now)
the case is elegant and the palmrest has a nice matte/rubberized feel. The touchpad is good (it is made by ELAN for reference) very smooth operation with a surface that doesn't look like it will degrade quick.

Temps aren't bad:
Idle the core temps hover around 33 C and the GPU hovers around 45 C. I will test this more once the drive is swapped.

Stay tuned for more!

 

You, sir, are a hero. Do you have 3d Mark or anything like that (maybe an intense game or game demo?) that you can run while checking temps? Also, can you upload a couple pics (or even a video!) of the screen from a few angles? If this were Reddit, I would have already bought you Gold.

 

Did you get the 4gb card and is it Maxwell?

 

Here we go!

 

As a point of reference, how is the screen as compared to y510p?

 

Im just concerned on gaming temps hopefully its not too bad

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I assume this means that the Y50 doesn't have edge-to-edge glass screen?

 

only on touch versions

 

Wow.. you actually received one? I thought no one would considering reviewers haven't received it.

You have a good oppt. to be the FIRST person to publish an unboxing and review of the laptop on Youtube. Probalby generate 20 million hits and make you some cash...
Considering everything on youtube is from the CES show and 2 min long.

 

Anywhere we can confirm that? I saw pics of the prototype reviews, and they looked to be bezeled also, although I wasn't sure if that was a touch or non-touch version.

 

the model on display in CES is a touched version with glass to glass screen and it makes no sense for a touchscreen to be bezel

 

I'm looking at adapters to get the charger to work in the UK, and there are a couple extra factors I didn't expect so I was hoping somebody who's used stuff like this before could help out. What exactly does/should the US charger look like, prong wise? A couple adapters are specific on that. Also, does anybody know how the voltage would work out? UK has 230V and US has 120V (I think), and I imagine that could cause issues.

Sorry for the dumb questions, I just don't want to mess up from something as small as this and not be able to use the laptop when it comes / possibly damage it. I really appreciate any help, thank you