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    Y50 Thread

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Jobine, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. H01D3N

    H01D3N Notebook Evangelist

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    It's like I said earlier, he could be on a different time zone than the majority of posters. "Nemesis" also got his Y50.
     
  2. Derek712

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    I'm not shopping for the incredible gaming laptop, I'm looking for a thin laptop that can game decently. Just because they make thin laptops with high end graphics cards doesn't mean the buyers are all expecting them to perform better than thicker laptops with better cooling. I tested both the Ghost Pro and Razer blade and they both throttled the GPU intentionally to keep the thermal limits in control. But people aren't buying those to have the best possible experience, they are looking for a good blend of high end gaming and portability - heavily leaning on portability. The Y50 is the same as those except they went the safer route and chose the 860M, which won't perform as well but will not throttle and will probably stay cooler.
     
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    May I also add not everyone likes the color yellow (My Favorite colors are black/white/red/silver on a laptop).
     
  4. Nemesis [L.M.A]

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    Ok, my first quick-review. I took it work today, and I manage to get an hour to try the laptop a little bit
    I don't know who asked, but the surface near the touchpad is far away from aluminium feeling, its more like a verywell polished plastic
    I haven't tried any benchs/games yet so for full loaded temps and performance you'll have wait :D
    Normal internet browsing, it doesnt even gets warm, its fast as hell (still with Win8.1+stockHDD)
    The screen.... I got used to my Dell S2340L (IPS) and the difference is there for everyone to notice... but, for a TN panel is waaaaaay better than my old ACER V3-571G (entry-gaming laptop).
    I didn't liked at all the Touchpad position, besides that it works fine (is not like dell inspiron multi-touch one tough). But since im going to use a USB external mouse (remember its a gaming laptop) that shouldn't be a problem at all.
    For me the Worst thing so far is Windows 8.1 :p, as I told everyone before, I think its bs
    Overall, I love how thin and light it feels. Time and benchs will tell if this is THE laptop to buy
     
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    Banender Notebook Consultant

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    guys don't forget to fix windows 8 by simply installing "startisback" https://teksyndicate.com/videos/de-suck-windows-8-best-windows-8-start-menu-start8-vs-start-back

    it basically creates windows 7 out of windows 8 with windows 8 improvements

    you get your start button like in windows 7
     
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    H01D3N Notebook Evangelist

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    Awesome. So is it loud?
     
  7. fantasticzig

    fantasticzig Notebook Consultant

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    Boot time with stock drive? App load time (especially if you have a heavy app, like Adobe, Autodesk, Ableton, etc.)? Thanks!

    Oh, and the range of the WiFi -- as good as your other WiFi devices? I keep getting freaked out by people insisting that the WiFi card is trash.
     
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    Good idea with Ableton, its actually something I work with a lot and is pretty heavy.
     
  11. heibk201

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    internal pics pleaseeeee :hi2:
     
  12. fantasticzig

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    Okay, everybody! A couple questions and requests for advice:

    1. I'm seriously considering the purchase of an 840 EVO, but if I do, I need to go all the way (1TB), which is $450. Yeesh. But I don't want to do it unless app load times will be substantially better on a consistent basis. From what I understand, a hybrid is only fast if you're loading the same one or two programs all the time. This laptop is for myself and my wife and we do EVERYTHING ON IT; movies, games, work, you name it. Her heavy-app use is architectural and design work (Autodesk, 3D Studio Max, Adobe products) and my heavy app use is Ableton Live 9 Suite with all sorts of plug-ins. We regularly download movies and shows, as well. This makes me suspect that we will always be seeing the 5400rpm mechanical speeds and rarely see the SSD speeds. Is this correct? Am I fool to stick with the hybrid in this situation?

    2. The WiFi card. Looks easy to install Intel's latest model, and that seems like a very cheap upgrade. But is it true that in the past, Lenovo laptops won't even boot with a new WiFi card? I heard that Lenovo locks you out of that upgrade.

    Thanks so much!!!
     
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    Tim: How did you get the SSD installed with Win8.1? Did you ghost the original drive? Did you have your own OEM 8.1 installer? I'm curious if you had any driver/other problems.

    Does anyone know if the Touch version screen is an IPS? I know it's Glossy/glass (not matte). Or they make TN panels + Touch?

    I suppose 1 option is to have a 3rd party vendor (xotic, Kik, Upgrade king) modify a touch version with a 512 GB SSD, since it appears that Lenovo is not offering that combination, and that's what I want...
    Or doing the same surgery to the ASus n550JK. Those are my 2 options right now. But the shipping times on both laptops are in the 1 month range which is crazy...
     
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    There are plenty of cheap notebooks with touch+TN so count on that. I wouldn't worry though because the Y500 and Y510p had really nice Tn panels. The glare from the glass will be an issue though. At least the glossy panels of last year didn't have that much glare, but a touch panel is sure to be just like what you see in stores. As for the SSD, the product key should be embedded in the bios, so all you have to do is reinstall Windows and transfer all the drivers. Cloning might be easier but you have to keep the bloat ware. I'd swap the hard drive myself - it's really easy to do once you get the cover open and you havea a whole lot of people on these forums who can walk you through it.
     
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    zeroace Newbie

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    Here I quote a review for y50 from the lenovo's website of U.S. ( Lenovo Y Series | Premium Multimedia Laptops | Lenovo (US))

    "I would like to start off by saying that this is possibly the worst deal I've ever seen for a laptop, especially when it's sitting right next to the Y510p. What Lenovo has done here is taken the y510p, made it less powerful, smaller, and more prone to overheating, and then charging around $400 more for it. They have taken a gaming laptop and made it into a multimedia one. It's also less reliable due to its sleek yet coolingless design. Do not buy this if you want to do heavy gaming; get the cheaper, more powerful one sitting right over there ==>."

    I am also looking forward to getting a Y50, but if the above perspective is true, maybe all of us should reconsider that. Anyway, let's wait for more feedbacks from this forum and in particular we need to know the performance of y50 under heavy gaming.
     
  17. Derek712

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    2GB Maxwell card in that one. I was curious if they were all 4GB and if it was a typo. Guess not.

    I bet that person doesn't even own it. Anyone can write a review. 860M > 750M SLI.

    Edit - side by side with the base y50 for $1150 and the y510p SLI model for $1200: you get 8GB less ram(which you can upgrade yourself for $50), better GPU, thinner design, subwoofer and upgraded wireless card. Not sure what his ammo for worse performance is.
     
  18. Metazoick

    Metazoick Notebook Guru

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    Can you post a review on that site without purchase, because something about their phrasing makes it reeeaaally seem like they just saw the specs and got mad that lenovo swapped SLI for portability etc, and made a laptop that isn't the pure bulky gaming rig they obviously want. Anyway I really wouldn't change my mind over one review from one stranger who may have never even touched the thing after two people on here who actually got it are giving it the thumbs up.
     
  19. ChowMeow

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    Today I will be ordering from klick online. If anyone has the laptop, please report temps!
     
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  20. Metazoick

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    I can only imagine they're talking about 755 or 755 SLI (although didn't ultrabay run hot iirc? Hard to say it has worse cooling when compared to that).

    EDIT: Messed up posting, my bad, think it's fine now.

    ChowMeow - Don't forget to email first about pricing! It can be cheaper not through ebay etc as they take a chunk, if you aren't ordering international.
     
  21. mattstermh

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    I'll let you know tomorrow. :)
     
  22. Derek712

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    860M is better than 755M SLI too. And yes, I would rather not have hot air blowing on my mouse hand. :)
     
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  23. timothyz

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    I used Samsung's migration tool, and then after everything, I am going to do a Macrium Reflect image, so I can revert to my modified status easily.

    You basically can use any cloning program hassle free. If you want to go the clean route, I doubt drivers would be a huge issue because they are all on the Lenovo website.
     
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    I'm really considering getting the Y50 through Klick, but being that I would primarily be using this system for heavy photo editing, I don't know if it's worth it. I do have an external monitor that I would be using for editing, but I was advised to get a laptop with Quadro, FirePro, or Radeon instead of GeForce due to Adobe being a jerk or whatever. At this point, I'm assuming that anything is better than my Vaio NW160J and that I will be happy as a clam. Who knows...
     
  25. timothyz

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    I'm in the central time zone, so I'm probably close to most of the people on here. However, the reason for my lack of posts is I have been really busy yesterday and today with work so that has been a huge hindrance. I also was stuck on slow WiFi last night so downloading 3D Mark was horrible.

    I will post that as soon as I get a chance to run it (should be later today, like 7:30 P.M. Central, that is, if I have the time)

    I'm sorry I haven't had the time to post more.
     
  26. Derek712

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    My wife does heavy editing on Geforce cards and has no probs. It's more CPU than GPU for photos and many can get away with integrated graphics.
     
  27. Metazoick

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    Oh, really? Must have misremembered the 755 SLI being better - in which case I'm extra happy about my y50 coming over.

    Take all the time you need, you're doing us a massive favour as it is - I guess being one of the very first to get a laptop model is a bit double edged haha
     
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    Good to know, thanks! I've done really well with this old thing for now. I do have another wedding coming up and I'm pretty tired of the BSoD and lags on Lightroom/PS. I can't see how a new Geforce card could do too much harm :p

    I'm mostly interested in the sRGB coverage. :D
     
  29. krzysiekhusarz

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    in terms of power, 860m is about the same as 755m SLI, but it has lower power consumption, and only takes up the spot of 1 card, not 2. Plus, no SLI stuttering effect.

    Source
     
  30. H01D3N

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    No problem man, we appreciate the updates you've given so far!

    First thing that I thought when I saw this post was oh crap, cheap WiFi card... but is it just your WiFi speed?
     
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    Damn! Notebookreview.com, the only place on the web where you go to learn more about that new laptop you O so desperately want and also be able to get an English 101 class at the same time. :laugh:
     
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    He must be an English Teacher lol
     
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    * an English 101 class ;)
     
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    Yes, you are probably right, the review guy says the worst I've ever ''seen'' for a laptop, not ''gotten'', so that guy may have never touched y50.
     
  35. Metazoick

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    People who review things they haven't even got mess up the process, especially when they're one of the first and can actually influence decisions because of that. I really doubt that guy has it, his complaints are far too vague and if he was actually upset about his order he would have stated specific problems.
     
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    Whoops!
    This reminds of being in English class.
    Back to topic guys.
     
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    For anyone interested in shipping dates from Lenovo, I just checked in on mine (base model but with the upgrade of 4710HQ). Most updated shipping date per the reps is 6/10/14. So looks like mid-June for the 4710s.
     
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    anyone else getting their laptop like tomorrow or something?

    could use some reviews finally

    at least pictures and even an unprofessional video would be awsomeeeeeeeeeeee to get the tension off :D
     
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    Yeah, I was at my parents house. The ISP is horrible and they like to lower their speed, increase their rate, and lower their cap.
    The wireless card from what I can tell is perfectly fine, and I would keep using it indefinitely. However, I already purchased a 7620 AC, so I guess I will be switching it out.
     
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    Sigh, the wait for this laptop is making me crazy a bit.
    I was wondering about doing that trick where you tell them that you might cancel to order from a third party vendor to get another 5 percent discount lol. Mine is still "Released to manufacturing" (after at least a week) with the shipping date of June 11th.
    But I also ordered the blu-ray/dvd option model so I don't feel so good about the shipping date.
     
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    I didn't get 5% off (I already had a corporate discount, so they couldn't give me another), but when I complained they gave me $50 for any accessory on the site (Eg any non-PC item). So you'll probably get either that or the 5% discount if you complain.
     
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    I was really concerned about the wireless card after reading about the y510p etc - thanks for the info
     
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    My recommendation would be to cancel and email Klick Online about the Y50. The deal you will get from them is better than the 5% you will get from Lenovo. I'm not sure if they have the DVD model, but they have both the base model and the high-end non SSD model. Pick yourself up an external DVD/Blu-Ray reader for $20 anywhere, you can even find them at Walmart.
    Contact: [email protected]

    Also, you won't have to wait as long for shipping. You get the full Lenovo warranty and Klick's guarantee for it to be working, not DOA.
     
  44. Metazoick

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    They don't have the bluray model, but with lenovo still arguing amongst themselves about what form the bluray comes in I wouldn't trust it and it would probably be worth just getting an external (like I have). You (L1ght) could always keep the lenovo order, ring up and see how low you can get it, and email Klick and compare it all (the price, shipping times etc)? Then go with whichever you feel best about. Klick is selling cheaper than lenovo and the shipping times seem to be much better but if you really want a specific model it may be harder to pick between.
     
  45. L1ght

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    Oh wow thanks for the all the responses.
    I actually don't use the DVD/Blu-ray option not that much, but I just wanted one in case for school, because there's sometimes installation softwares through a DVD drive.
    The only thing that's holding me back is that it has the 4700HQ Processor and not the 4710. I guess the difference is negligible according to many, but you know since I'm already spending this much money, might as well get the 4710. I also bought a 3 year warranty + ADP from Lenovo, would Klick offer that same deal/offer?
     
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    Anyone else with information on the screen quality on the base model? Looking forward to pictures or a video!
     
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    Paying more for no gain because you're already spending a lot is a bit of a sunk cost fallacy. If, in a couple months from now, you had a 4700 and could spend money and swap it with the 4710, would you bother? I'm unsure if Klick can increase Lenovo warranty for you (you'd have to email), but through ebay it gave me the option to include SquareTrade 2 yr warranty + accidents at $239.99 (I didn't take it, I barely take it out so I'll just find a cheap damage insurance and stick with the original warranty).
     
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    I agree with Metazoick, SquareTrade is your best option if you want extended coverage. I would highly recommend an external DVD drive, let me tell you a story.
    A student put his new Asus N550JV into his backpack with the DVD drive down one day. It opened in his backpack and snapped off, and the computer had to be replaced.
    I'm not a huge fan of internal DVD drives because of how prone they are to accidents like this. Slot loaders are great but not many companies make them like that, just Apple now for the most part.
    As for the 4710HQ, there is basically no performance gain. Intel just put the new 4X10 series out for yearly laptop refreshes, its not a major processor upgrade or anything. It isn't even worth the extra $10 considering that your Y50 will ship 3 weeks later because of it.
     
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    I will be pretty pissed if the Blu Ray ends up being some slick slot loader though!!
     
  50. Metazoick

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    I know where you're coming from, I was very much in the same thinking for this laptop, but you'd be paying a decent premium plus waiting etc just to have it inside the laptop rather than right next to it - and I wouldn't put money on it being internal by a long shot. Plus if you don't use blurays a lot it's a lot more expensive than a normal cd/dvd drive. I was planning on getting an external bluray so as to not wait for the model to be available to me but not lose out, but as soon as it stopped being 'a little bit more as I'm already spending a lot' to being a solid £50+ more than a standard drive in actual cash my whim dried up very quickly. If you have the cash/use blurays a lot then it'd be worth that extra, but if it's external from lenovo too and you're just paying even more than you should be for a boxed USB one? I'd be more mad at that than I'd be mad at missing out on a slot loader.
     
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