***Yoga 2 Pro Owners Thread***

Thank you.

 

Thanks guys. This really helpfully!!!:thumbsup:

 

I'm thinking of buying this but I had some questions, hope you guys can help me out since nobody seems to be responding on my thread.
How is the performance on this? I'll be doing a lot of coding/app dev and MS Office on it. Can the ULT processors handle that? Can it play DotA 2?
Should I go for the i7 or the i5 model? Also, why would this be a better choice than the Vaio Flip?

 

Macros, I had posted something like this a few weeks back. My issue is the rightside charms sidebar. I went into two different settings to disable the rightside mouse charms thing and it still hasn't made a difference. I too am very frustrated with bouncing between whatever I'm doing on my desktop and that damn charms sidebar popping up. No one ever commented on the issue so maybe I'm the only one having this problem. I will try and uninstall the current track pad driver and install the newer one for the original Yoga 13 and see if that makes a difference. Maybe, that might help fix your issue as well. Good luck!

 

Base on what you want to do with it, It looks like you would be happy with the i7.
I don't know if it can play DotA 2.
Regarding the Vaio Flip, you can read my post #1033 on page 104. Or here is the link to the Vaio Flip Thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sony/730163-vaio-flip-yoga-hinge-comes-sony.html.

Of course everithing is subjective, but a lot of people that liked the design and got the Vaio Flip, ended up returning the unit because of the fan noise, and many others like me decided to cross it out of the list.
None of the convertibles ultrabooks out there are what I would want the market to offer. No machine over $1000 should have the flaws that the limited selection of hybrid ultrabooks available on the market have. But that is the reality, and IMHO, the Y2P is the one that will give you more for your money. If you can leave without a convertible, the regular ultrabooks category have better things to offer, but be prepare to pay more than you would pay for a convertible.

 

I also raised this points a few weeks ago. And in fact if you run a machine in non-native resolution, it will look even worse (specifically if its not an integral multiple of your native resolution). However somebody replied it still looks awesome, so I took his word on that (still a little skeptical). My main concern is also using this system to remote log in in my office computer all the time. Does it really bad for remote log in?

 

It'll be subjective for everyone, but I think it looks great at 1080p and I get a little more battery life from it at this resolution. Overall, for how I use it, it just makes more sense than the 3200x1800 resolution.

 

On the Lenovo site, there is a repair manual. In the manual, it shows how the battery is replaced. From what I see, you can replace it pretty easy. In Lenovo terms, it's not a "user replaceable" due to issues, warranty,etc.

So, the Lenovo rep is correct based on their policies. However, like most things, the real answer is different.

 

Do you have i5 or i7?

 

Dream, sorry to hear you are having the same type of issue as I am (but misery loves company). It's very weird, it didn't happen with my previous Envy 14 nor my short-lived Yoga 13. Please let me know if you find that the new driver helps with your issue. I know I have a few more weeks to make a decision on if this is a keeper, but I do a lot of work in Excel and I've almost wanted to throw the thing across the room because I couldn't select alternate cells!

I have tested it and If I put my finger anywhere up to 1/4 inch from the side of the trackpad and move horizontally, it triggers the gesture. IIRC, the gesture is only supposed to trigger if the swipe comes from off the trackpad on to it. I just feel like pulling a *HULK SMASH*.

 

Thank you. I'm also looking for the Y2P hardware maintenance manual. does anybody knows? I was found the one for the Yoga 13 http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/ideapad_yoga13_hmm_1st_edition_oct_2012_english.pdf

 

I actually was looking for a regular laptop at first, but the Y2P really intrigued me. I just hope that I don't regret my decision of going with a convertible and that it gives me the performance I need. Thanks for your help, I'll probably go with the Y2P.

 

Learn to Google buddy. Type in: Yoga 2 Repair Manual and you receive:

http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/lenovo_yoga_2_pro_hmm.pdf

Read and be Merry.

 

I think simply using a mouse and disabling the track pad would solve your problem.

 

After running a few tests, I have determined this:

This BIOS update by itself does not calibrate/fix the colors. The color fix is either due entirely to energy manager, or energy manager does something with the bios.

As someone mentioned earlier, the screen dim key now does not turn the screen completely off. This may have been the reason for the updated BIOS.

Battery life seems to be improved, but I think that the reason for this is that I no longer have to always put it in energy manager high performance to get decent colors.

Lastly, and I am quite unsure about this, is that the screen seems to not reach the maximum brightness it could before. This may just be me though.

~OP, Jay

 

I have the i7. I LOVE this machine.

 

One of my biggest frustrations in Windows 8.1 (ok Microsoft in general I think) is that I have to go to 3 different places to adjust a setting. Anyone who has tried to turn off adaptive brightness know this well. So, because this setting hid from me for a while I thought I'd toss it out there just in case it wasn't one of the places you adjusted your settings. In the Windows Start menu, type Corner and then select Corner and Edge Settings. There are options here to turn of the left and right swipes as well as what happens in those swipes. I know I was trying to make my changes in the Synaptics settings (I use the original Yoga driver too) and having no luck.

 

A tale of two apps - and battery use

All: Sharing some recent experience running the yoga 2 pro in stand mode as a TV. I've got an hdhomerun prime network cable tuner that can pump a good high def video stream to my Yoga - between 10-15 mb/sec.

My first choice of app was the windows media center. There are some driver compatibility issues but you can fiddle to get this working. The interesting thing is that WMC appears to want to suck alot of power. In Power Saver Mode the yoga is taking only 11 watts but the video is very jerky and unwatchable. When I switch to Cinema mode it gets reasonable video performance - but power consumption jumps to 23 watts - that's a lot for the tablet that is using 7 watts at idle!

So my second app choice was powerdvd 13. A very modern and well written app (it better be for the $90 they want for it!). I can tune to the same channel in power saver mode with perfectly acceptable performance and power consumption of 13 watts.

So I have to ask what is windows media center doing with that extra 10 watts.....The only thing I can think is that wmc is actually a dvr app - is continuously streaming video to disk cache but I just can't believe that is doubling the workload.

Any opinions or anyone else with experience getting wmc working well on the Yoga?

As a final note, I did have to disable Intel's DPTF to get this to work reasonably at all - in stand mode it basically sucks to do anything with DPTF enabled in the BIOS.

 

Has anyone had problems with beta and Canary Chrome versions where when the HiDPI Support flag is enabled the browser gets squashed to to the top left quadrant of the screen? It's unusable in that state. This doesn't happen in the stable version of Chrome. Wondering if just me or not.

 

I had this same problem. I went back to regular Google Chrome.

 

Can anyone please post pictures of the device in tablet mode from different angles? It would be appreciated.

 

I don't own the yoga, but maybe this will help: https://www.google.com/search?q=yog...B6zjsATrnoAw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1067&bih=499

 

If you can get it from Best buy, they have put in place the Holidays Return Policies, and you'll have until January 15th to play with it, and decide if you want to keep it or return it.

 

So I went to Best Buy because of this exact question... I don't know how others can say it looks fine, I immediately noticed the text fuzziness when I set it at 1920x1080. So frustrating, as I need to be able to use RDP (and not through the RDP manager, which I'm familiar with).

I did not think to try 1600x900 though, so I'd be interested to hear how that works when you go to the showro...er... Best Buy.

I agree though, this resolution is just stupid to me on a screen this size. I wish it was 1920x1080 native (and had a digitizer), THEN it would be perfect. As it is, I don't think I can use it for work, which is a showstopper for me... unless another resolution is actually CRISP and usable.

 

See for yourself. Go to BB, and compare the Y2PRO at lower resolution (which like I have said quite a few times before) to the other screens and it's still looks amazing! . I think that it doesn't matter where you put this screen at(lower resolution) since the pixel count is crazy. Not everyone's eyes are the same (I got very good close vision and can tell the difference). The text sharpness on the Y2PRO is incredible(and everything else too).

 

So I love my Y2p but after doing the Bios/Energy manager update, two "problems" have arisen. First of all my screen is SIGNIFICANTLY darker, I was using brightness at maybe 30%, now to achieve the same level of brightness its closer to 75. I think I read some posts on here about some ways to correct this, but I cant find them. Is there anything that I can do about this? The second problem is that if I turn off Energy manager there is no way to turn it back on, it does not show up on my start screen, and when I search for it nothing is found. I have it on right now but I want to be able to turn it off or on. Can anybody help? Or direct me to a post that can? This darker screen is incredibly dissappointing.

 

Hi guys,
I did a fresh install of Windows 8.1 enterprise + Lenovo drivers. Has anyone had any issues with the yoga 2 not sleeping properly when the lid is closed? I've had a few times now where the machine seems to turn itself on while closed. Gets pretty hot when it happens inside a bag.

 

For everyone who's dropping the resolution - I don't have mine yet, so I don't know if this would actually make any difference, but if you're finding some blurriness at 1080p, it might be because it's not evenly divisible from "1800p". 1080p is 66% of 1800. It might look clearer using 1440p, which is 75%, or, obviously, 1600x900, which is 50%, and likely to be the clearest non-native resolution.

1440p at 13" is also about the same "actual screen size" as the Surface Pro 2 at 1080p at 10.6 inches.

Again, not sure if that's at all helpful, but I thought I'd throw it out there.

 

While I can't answer that question (since I haven't done a fresh install), I do have a question: How did you install the Lenovo Transitions application? Are you able to use the laptop in all four modes (e.g. keyboard disabled in fully folded tablet mode) after fresh install? Thanks.

 

You can download it now.

http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles/transit136w81.exe

 

The drivers and the transition app are all on the lenovo site.
Drivers and software - Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro
I haven't bothered installing the transition app, but have had no issues operating the laptop in all the different modes. I've installed all the other drivers and the latest BIOS update and am wondering if anyone else has done a clean install without issue?

 

Hey, great review on the 1080p non-integral scaling. What you described is exactly what I'd expect... since the relative screen size is so small, 13.3", the very high native resolution makes it hard to see the pixel irregularities. It gives me some hope! Did you adjust the scaling in Windows back down to 100%? If so, I guess it probably looked like the other 1080p 13.3" ultrabooks.

I'm going to give it a try at Best Buy when I get a chance. Thanks for the detail! :thumbsup:

 

Well what looks better is subjective of course but, a 720p source might look better on a 720p lcd panel when compared to the same source on a 1080p lcd panel because on the 720p panel, the pixels will be 1:1 where on the 1080p panel, their will be some odd shaped pixels due to upscaling of the image. If both panels are the exact same physical dimensions, the 1080p panel will have the benefit of a higher pixel density (PPI) but with those odd shaped pixels while the 720p display will have a lower PPI, but all pixels will be symmetrical. In both cases, these drawbacks, lower PPI vs. odd shaped pixels, will be most noticeable when you look at the screens up close. The 1080p panel may look brighter due to the higher PPI, but strictly speaking, the image won't be a perfect representation of the actual source input like you'd see on the 720p screen.

Hopefully nobody fell asleep reading this.

 

Good description here...

 

Yeah, I wish I had thought of this when I was in the store. I may go again this weekend to try it. For anyone that owns a Y2P and DOES notice the text fuzziness of 1920x1080: how does 1600x900 look to you?

 

That sounds promising. Are you actively using it at 1080p?

 

Hmmm, your direct experience is actually what my gut tells me should happen. 1600x900 should actually look OK though because even at 3200x1800, the OS is set to do 200% scaling, so the software is doing the same thing the hardware is doing. Thing is that if the OS is going to do 200% scaling anyway, you might as well set the display resolution to 1600x900 to save the use of the video memory (unless this has a discrete video card... don't remember off the top of my head).

So some different experiences here... I will need to see for myself. I'm unfamiliar with the RDP Manager though. I need to look into that also.

 

It does make sense as the more round the scaling factor is the less odd pixels you'll see, but at 1440p, I'm worried the screen will start looking too small again. Doesn't the Surface Pro 2 at 1080p still use a 125% scaling in the OS?

 

regrading with all this apparent talk with resolution and why would people use lower res setting. I, for one, will always be lowering the res at 1080p whenever I will watch 1080p movies (my Y2Pro has yet to arrive).


I don't see the point of keeping the res at 3200x1800 when your Y2Pro is running a movie, probably full screen, with a 1080p res, running on battery.

For everything else though, I would use my Y2Pro at its native res, @ 200% scaling to get the extra sharpness, and yes, richer colors! ( colors improve, for some reason at high DPI, at least from my eyes)

 

According to this, they're at least making some progress...

‘PC settings’ gets major makeover in Win8.1

 

Hey Guys/Gals,

Just an fyi, may have already been posted, but if you've updated to the latest bios and power mgnt update and the screen doesn't seem quite as bright, click on the battery icon, "more power options", click "change plan settings", "change advanced power settings" , goto "display", "enable adaptive brightness" and toggle both to "off".

Then you should be able to increase the brightness to what it was before..aka very bright =).

Hope that helps...took me a bit of digging to figure it out.

 

Yes, because when I run a virtual software called packet tracer for my Cisco class, I have to have it at 1920x1080 to see what I'm doing.

 

I don't agree with you, since it looks FINE to me(subjective). It sounds like the upcoming Yoga thinkpad is what you are looking for: digitizer and 1920X1080 native resolution.

 

The Thinkpad Yoga might be perfect for me except they've gone and made it a 12.5" machine! Argh!

 

You know it's funny with the whole digitizer thing. It is something I have always longed for but then found I rarely used. I bought the Surface Pro specifically for the digitizer then almost never used it. Why? Simple, my handwriting sucks and I can type much faster. Still it bugs me not having it. Just one of those "wanting to have all the weapons" things.

 

After reading last few pages, I am still wondering whats the final consensus on using Y2P for remote logging in a desktop (in my office) which has Windows 7? Is it easy, cumbersome, tricky, impossible (to work with)?

 

Lenovo has consistently been moving back my ship date, one day at a time. Not sure, but I believe this qualifies as torture under the Geneva conventions.

So last night I went online to Best Buy and discovered that it's now in stock at 5 local stores, available for pickup today. I promptly placed my order, and within one minute received an email from BB informing me that the item was not actually available at the store I chose, and I needed to call them right away. Calling BB is pretty much my favorite thing to do, next to a root canal. Sure enough, after 20 minutes on hold, I was informed that their systems were down and I should try back in a couple hours.

I figured screw this, and went back online to choose another store. And discovered that it's now unavailable at all 5 of those stores. So I placed an order for shipping, which seemed to go thru ok. Which means I could soon be the proud owner of three Yoga2's. Or possibly none, if my luck continues in the same vein...

 

Yes and no - depends on the setting that's selected. Personally, I went to the local Best Buy and turned the Surface Pro 2 to 100% scaling, and it seemed... on the edge of being fine. I'll have to try it a bit to see. (I wanted to test 2560x1440 on the Y2P, but some guy was there using it for a solid 20 minutes, so I just left Hope it wasn't one of you!)

Out of the box, I think the Surface Pro is set to 200% or something, but who knows, maybe Best Buy tinkers with their display model.

EDIT: Saw your post, so I checked my local BB - my Y2P is in the mail, but I thought I'd see what the status is - there are none in store, but all of my local stores have "ship to store" now, instead of "we're never going to sell this ever again" which is pretty much what it had up until now.

 

Hahaha hilarious post!

But I do hope you get a good result. Perhaps you could make a healthy profit selling some of your excess Y2P stock from BB to other users here who have also had their dates pushed out by one and a half decades.

 

Hi, after the bios and power manager update I have screen flicker while on battery despite: turning off "adjust screen brightness automatically", turning off display power saving technology in intel graphics properties and turning adaptive brightness off for all modes. Anything I missed? Are others having these issues? Thanks