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    ***Yoga 2 Pro Owners Thread***

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by JayWalker7, Oct 20, 2013.

  1. legzam358

    legzam358 Notebook Consultant

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    Has the fan erratic behavior stopped as well, does it still run for long periods of time even with the machine at low temperatures? I was trying to decide between the Y2P and the flip, an d when I learnt about the fan and Sony not doing anything about it, I started to focus on the yoga, I bought it, but it didn't work for me. I was ready to start looking for a regular ultrabook instead, but it looks that now the Flip is getting it fixes too, so I want to take a second look. I like the design of both machines, so it comes down to which one work best for me.
     
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    How exactly do I carve some of the rubber off?
     
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    JVav Notebook Enthusiast

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    Does anyone know if this case works for the Y2P? I really like the look of it.
     
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    My cable had a small amount of plastic trim around it that was easily cut off making it fit perfectly.
    I believe it is a monoprice cable but I've had it for a couple years now so I don't remember exactly.
    If your cable doesn't have anything like that look for one that does.
     
  5. UncleSpam

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    That one is for the Mac Book Air 13... It maybe too thin for the Y2P... Look for the equivalent sleeve for the Mac Book Pro13, or try the official Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro sleeve, which has the cutouts for the ports and is open by the vents. It will also offer protection in tablet mode.
     
  6. Crazysah

    Crazysah Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks a ton.
    Also, what settings do I need to get the highest possible resolution on my monitor? I want to watch 1080p videos.
     
  7. JVav

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    Like this?
     
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    Yeah, here a couple for MB Pro Retina and MB Pro (the latter apparently slightly larger than the former, at 340x 250x 8 mm for the MB Pro vs 330 mm x 230 mm x 6 mm for the Pro Retina.. not sure which would fit best, guess should measure). Those do look interesting for what they are, and the price is decent too.

    Amazon.com: EasyAcc 13.3 inch Macbook Pro Retina Felt Sleeve Carrying bag Ultrabook Laptop bag for Apple Macbook Pro Retina, Acer, Asus, Samsung and toshiba seres - Grey: Computers & Accessories

    Amazon.com: EasyAcc 13.3 inch Macbook Pro Felt Sleeve Carrying bag Ultrabook Laptop bag for Apple Macbook Pro - Grey: Computers & Accessories

    Edit: Oops, beat me to it. :p Well I guess I've helped by showing there are a couple slightly differently sized options for MB Pro.. not sure whether the Y2P is closer sizewise to the MB Pro or MB Pro Retina. If you do some further internet sleuthing to find out, please enlighten us. :)
     
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    A related question on this point -- for anyone who's got the Y2P slot-in case from Lenovo, does it have a cutout for the mini-HDMI port?
     
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    So I ran into some problems with re-installing the Synaptics driver. As many folks here have found that the most recent updated synaptics driver for the Yoga 13 resolves some of the Y2P touchpad issues (particularly in that it includes the option to reverse the up/down scrolling direction to the "proper" approach) and has been working well, I decided to do the same.

    [...]

    Edit: Ok, I must be smoking crack today or something. No idea why I was looking for the Synaptics settings within the device properties instead of within control mgr, but for whatever reason I was doing just that. In control manager, there it is as usual. Yeesh.
     
  11. Crazysah

    Crazysah Notebook Evangelist

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    I think I've more or less fixed the stability issues, though I'd still like to see s picture of where exactly to carve.
    Secondly, I have a Asus VS247H-P 23.6-Inch Full-HD LED-Lit LCD Monitor. What are the best settings I should apply to get the best resolution on my monitor? I mostly want to watch HD videos. At the moment I've just extended the screens.
     
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  12. James_Brown

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    Somewhere there is a post from someone who bought and recommended an Asus micro to HDMI. Amazon sells it. I bought one and I used it today. Worked fine without any modifications. The only issue that I had was with the computer wanting to have the TV set as the default output for some reason.
     
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    Alright, well thanks for the help. I think I will definitely get one of those larger ones (if I get that type at all). If I find anything out, I will be sure to let you know.
     
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    I'll have to delay that until I get my Y2P tomorrow. I think the cutout for the ventilation causes the HDMI port to be exposed without the need for a cutout (likewise for the power connector). I have the sleeve, all I'm missing is the computer :)

    @JVav

    Exactly...

    FYI, there was a mention of a very nice (but expensive) sleeve on page 20 or so...

    Small one for the Macbook Pro 13. But it's just a very nice/quality sleeve with no cutouts...

    P.S. The Lenovo Y2P sleeve seems not to have clearance for the HDMI port, just the power connector.
     
  15. Crazysah

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    Link to which one you bought? Also, best settings guys to get the most out of the monitor?
     
  16. thoots

    thoots Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've got a Flip 15A i7, and it definitely HAS viewing angle issues. I'm not sure what's going on, but I've seen it on the Sony Flip and a current Dell notebook that I returned to Best Buy: So-called "IPS" screens that darken JUST LIKE TN SCREENS when you go off-axis from dead center. For anyone who has been paying attention to IPS versus TN screens over the years, TN screens have this viewing angle issue wherein the screen darkens substantially when you move off-axis -- it's like a "veil of darkness" spreads across the screen as you move your head around, going off-axis, or if you adjust the screen backwards or forwards. "True" IPS screens SHOULD NOT DO THIS, but we apparently have a new generation of presumably ultra-low-cost so-called IPS screens that do this just like the TN screens always have. These new-generation IPS screens do not "wash out" like TN screens -- they keep the color saturation like an IPS screen should, but they absolutely do produce this "veil of darkness" that moves around as you move your head around.

    The Dell I returned was very bad -- it was as bad as any TN screen I've ever seen. My Fit 15A screen is a little bit better, and I have decided to keep that computer. But my Yoga 2 Pro screen is vastly superior to either of them -- it's just better and sharper to begin with, and it has none of this "veil of darkness" as you move your head around, exactly as I expect "not to see" on a true IPS screen.

    The "veil of darkness" is far more noticeable in lower lighting levels than, say, a Best Buy store's bright lighting, but if you've got a Fit and a Y2P side-by-side in relatively "normal" home lighting, you should easily be able to see the difference just by pushing the screen rearward just a few degrees from an optimal viewing angle -- you will see that "veil of darkness" drop down from the top of the Sony screen and cover the entire screen down to the bottom as you continue pushing the screen rearward. And you just won't see anything like that at all from the Y2P screen.

    At the least, that's what I've done with my Fit 15A and my Y2P, sitting side-by-side. Perhaps the 13A has a better screen, but if others have already mentioned this, then I would expect it's the same kind of technology that my 15A has.

    Otherwise, I'm relatively happy with my 15A -- the case design truly is downright weird, but I'm happy with its keyboard and its configuration -- I have the 1TB+16GB SSD drive configuration, and for that machine, it's far more what I want than a smallish SSD. But, I am "putting up with" the substandard "so-called IPS" screen, and I'm pretty darn disappointed that the industry has managed to utterly delete one of the advantages of the IPS screen, while still calling it "IPS" and charging a premium price for it. Kudos to Lenovo for insisting upon giving us a "real" IPS screen.

    thoots
     
  17. JVav

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    That one is out of my price range :/

    But, I did some investigating on cases. So, the Y2P has dimensions of 330x220x15mm.

    The two cases I linked have dimensions of 340x250x8mm and 330x230x6mm, so neither would be large enough ): Dat sucks.
     
  18. UncleSpam

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    Look at the 2nd review for the MBP 13 version of that case. It talks about the Y2P fitting with room to spare...

    Show me any laptop that is only 6mm thick, or 8mm for that matter...
     
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    Ah, was just going off specs. But that is good to hear. It is even slightly large, so I should be pretty good!
     
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    Does anyone know if there is a good keyboard cover for the Y2P? I've seen some on Amazon and eBay, but I don't know if they are from reputable manufacturers. Thanks!
     
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    Can someone tell me how Yoga 2 (i5 and 4GB RAM) is doing with Photoshop, Chrome with few tabs, Adobe AE opened at the same time? Is it enough powerful to handle those tasks?
    I know that 8GB RAM would be better but it's not available in UK yet and I want it now! :)
    Cheers
     
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    From this review:
    Sony Vaio Flip 13 Review - Convertible Laptop Reviews by MobileTechReview

    “Viewing angles on IPS displays are very wide, and the Flip 13 has good but not the best viewing angles we've seen on IPS displays. It does have wider viewing angles than the Duo 13, but it's not as wide as the “Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus (PLS) or 13" Retina MacBook Pro (IPS). In competition with the ATIV Book 9 Plus, the Sony makes up for that by reproducing yellows more accurately than the Samsung whose yellows turn mustard when the machine is unplugged from AC. But the 9 Plus fights back with an insanely high 3200 x 1600 resolution display.”

    In this paragraph they could easily substitute Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus with Yoga 2 pro.

    The question is, assuming the yellow “fix” for the yoga is not to your satisfaction, which trade off are you more comfortable with?

    I know that there is much more then just the screens that goes into comparing this two machine. I'm just giving my 2 cents about the screens comparison.
     
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    Thanks will check it out.

    Now, My question now is, what are the best settings I should use to get the best resolution on my monitor while watching HD videos? I have an Asus VS247H-P 23.6-Inch Full-HD LED-Lit LCD Monitor.
     
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    Looks like Lenovo has no option to contact tech support by email or live chat, only by phone. Am I missing something?
     
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    It's really hard to find. Or, harder to find than it should be. Here's a link to the page with the number to call. I don't know your specific issue but this is the number I called when I had to send in my Y2P for repairs. Look for the numbers in "step 3" of this page:
    Support phone list
     
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    Thanks, but I'm looking to contact them by email or chat, not phone. Guess there's no way to do that?
     
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    Sorry, I guess I didn't read your post carefully enough. I don't think there is, but I could be wrong. I do think that you'll get better support by calling someone though.
     
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    Other than my monitor question, I have one other one:

    Whenever I go to Intel® Driver Update Utility to detect the graphics version I have, it always fails and turns up blank. I then manually download the latest driver for my graphics card and that failed too. It said find the proper version for your driver or something. Anyone know what's up?
     
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    Not sure why that is, but you could try to run System Information in Windows and get that type of information...
     
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    What exactly is the question? The best resolution will be whatever the highest resolution is that the monitor supports...
     
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    If you can wait, I'd hold out for the i7, 8GB. I was running Photoshop CC, had a web browser open, Bridge, and was watching a video tutorial and it was very smooth. Premiere Pro works great too. Haven't used AE yet.
     
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    Thanks for this! At some point it does start charging again, I just don't understand how it's setup to handle that function.
     
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    I haven't even installed the BIOS update, and the answer to this is easy:

    I prefer the Y2P screen BY FAR over the 15A screen. I'd say that the review was rather charitable towards the Fit's screen -- the difference between it and the Y2P's screen is very substantial. There's just an incredibly satisfying sense of smoothness, "depth," proper, even contrast, and overall clarity in the Y2P screen that I just don't see at all in my 15A's screen. I think that "color" just isn't that noticeable unless you're actively looking for it -- I'm not using my Y2P as my primary image editing computer, and I really don't notice any color issues in casual viewing of images and videos. I really have to go into Paint and fill a box of some size with yellow in order to see something worth whining about. The rest of the time, I'm enjoying the clarity of the screen in everything else I'm doing with the computer.

    Otherwise, I'm agreed with you -- there is more to the story than just screens. My Fit 15A with the i7, 8GB of RAM and the big hard drive is the kind of beasty notebook I want for some heavy "desktop replacement" type work, and, unlike the higher-end Y2P configurations, I could actually walk out of a Best Buy with one in hand.

    thoots
     
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    Just want to know if there is anything else I should do besides just plugging it in and going into the Intel HD Graphics and selecting the highest resolution it can support?
     
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    Though they weren't very happy with the battery life: "The one big black-eye on this sucker is that battery life. There’s no changing that, and it’s only going to get worse as the battery wears down. Whether or not that’s a deal-breaker depends on how you use your laptop, but it could be a pretty big problem for a lot of people."
     
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    Am I the only one who thinks its silly to be calling the different positions that you can fold the LCD panel into, "modes"? Tent mode, tablet mode, laptop mode, etc. It's like saying that my car door has two modes... open mode and closed mode. They are just screen positions. I think of a "mode" as a some actual software or hardware (electronics) setting, i.e. power saver mode vs. performance mode, etc.

    OK... I'm done. :hi2:
     
  40. redware

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    I have a yoga pro 2 that I received a few weeks ago. I have run into a problem. On full battery power, only the keyboard is lit. I have to plug it in to have the screen appear....otherwise it is black. This happened after the computer locked up and I had to restart it.

    Any suggestions before I go to support? The bummer is that I am leaving on a long trip in a few days and I want to run it on battery..

    Thanks, Diane
     
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    Very well put. Thanks for giving up your impressions. Lucky you, you get to have both machines.
    Now, if you were in a position in which you need to choose one or the other, which one would you go for, and why?
     
  42. legzam358

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    TOOTH,

    Does you know if the fun running all the time or for long periods of time, would significantly reduce the battery life of the Flip?
     
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    Was just using this laptop sitting up in bed yesterday and it occurred to me how amazing it is to be able to adjust this to ANY angle which suits me at the moment. If only they had included an active digitizer this truly would be the perfect hybrid. Damn you Lenovo for getting so close then denying us at the finish line :-(
     
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    IMHO the BEST resolution and zoom for using the Y2P with an external monitor.

    First of all, forget about staying with 3200 x 1800 and using the wonky DPI matching for your external monitor. Fonts will looks very smudgy and some apps will work while others won't. The extra bit of visual goodness you get on your Y2P simply is not worth the funk on your external monitor.

    On the other hand, setting this dream screen at 1920 x 1080 would be an ocular crime. No just no.

    The happy medium I have discovered is 2048 x 1152 on your Y2P with 125% scaling. Your Y2P still looks gorgeous with smooth fonts and your external monitor also looks great. In addition, apps like MS Access which would not scale under the weird DPI algorithm MS uses scale beautifully at 125% and there is no fuzziness anywhere.

    So, my recommendation for external monitor setup is:

    Y2P - 2048 x 152 @ 125%
    External - 1920 x 1080 @ 125%
     
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    I complete disagree. I tried setting that resoluton @ 125%, and even though it's definitely better than 1080 @ 100%, 3200x1800 @ 200% is still noticeable better. You just don't get the same PPI since you still have the same physical 13.3 inch display.
     
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    Well, I talked to support. Evidently the battery is defective. They want me to send it back to replace the battery, but I cannot since I need it for a presentation on a 2 week trip on Friday. I just hope it will continue to work plugged in! Well, there goes a day's work on the computer while I am traveling!
     
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    Do you have the screen dimmed all the way down on battery? If you haven't done the BIOS update, the fully dimmed screen is actually off. Try bumping up your brightness with the F12 key when on battery.
     
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    I told myself I wasn't going to, but a day after getting my Y2P back from the Lenovo repair center I installed the new BIOS. And after using it for a day, I want the old one back!

    Sure, the yellows do look better, but the screen is definitely more dim. Previously, I could use it at 40% brightness and it was perfectly suitable. Now I need it at at least 60%, which drains the battery a lot more. And after using it this way for a day, I decided I'd rather have my old brightness back over the improved yellows.

    I don't suppose anyone knows of a way to download the old BIOS?
     
  49. redware

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    ::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

    Wow! You made my day! That was the problem and now it is fixed!

    Diane
     
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    You might try the Lenovo support forums....one of the reps might be able to provide a link to go back to the old version. But I would be very nice and kinda skirt around the issue so to speak. Maybe just ask for the old bios version number......sorry don't know what the version number is though....
     
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