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    ***Yoga 2 Pro Owners Thread***

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by JayWalker7, Oct 20, 2013.

  1. opus567

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    Just checked Lenovo's site, they're now listing only 4G RAM for all models.
     
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    That's probably a mistake on their site.
     
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    Here are the remaining problems:

    1. Sometimes, often enough, when watching a YouTube video in 1080p, it'll stutter but will be completely fine in 720p.
    2. When having multiple tabs open with videos and then the screensaver comes on.. after going back to the videos, they will stutter when playing but in fullscreen they will be fine..
    3. Sometimes, often enough again, when I have my headphones on, I'll get sound from videos even when no video is playing, this also happens sometimes when I'm not using my headphones.
    4. Sometimes when it goes to sleep, I can't wake it up by pressing keys. The only way it wakes up is by touching the screen.
    5. Don't know if it is just me, but I have another YouTube problem. Every time I open a video, it shows three different ads and says 'ads not from this site' and I don't know how to shut them off (I am using Chrome). Also, sometimes, the begging of the video is soft and then it goes to the proper volume.

    Anyone?
     
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    I talked with one of the reps and he said they have changed the models so these models ARE 4gb not 8gb. Kinda annoying they changed it without any notification
     
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    I have the file transit136w81.exe (Lenovo Transitions), not sure what this does - ? (ran a search, didn't come up with much)
     
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    Something that's been bugging me.. Does anyone else struggle to drag select with the touch pad? Like dragging the cursor to select text, or drag to select rows in excel.

    4/5 times when I drag over something the selection just clears as soon as I drop. It's so annoying and random I have to drag like 4-5 times until it finally works. Not sure if it's win8 or the y2p. But really need to figure out what's causing it, and I'm curious if anyone else has it too.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion flomartin. I gave it a whirl and tried several different channels with pretty much the same result, it would perform ok, but generally slow to very slow connection and constant dropouts. Reading around 32-38dBn on all the channels I tried. I updated to the latest drivers from the Lenovo website for the chipset and bluetooth and noticed improvement. But the connection still drops out. Updating to the latest Lenovo wifi drivers seems to make things worse so I've rolled back to the old drivers, but keeping the latest Lenovo chipset and bluetooth drivers.

    Running out of things to try to get this wifi card holding a connection without fail. At least the adaptive brightness disappeared which seemed to be fixed after I updated to the latest video driver from Lenovo.
     
  8. UncleSpam

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    Many on the Lenovo forum have said that rolling back to the Microsoft driver from March something, 2013 has resolved the disconnect problem for them. I'm not near my computer so I can't give more accurate details... but the driver version I'm talking about is 16.0.x from some time in March.
     
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    I have two majors problem. Whether I'm on YouTube or Traileraddict, videos in the 'laptop mode' in HD will stutter. They will never work without stuttering at least once or twice. It's driving me crazy and the one thing that may force me to return the laptop.

    Also, when I open up videos, it without even starting the video, or when the video is paused, it will often times play a sound from somewhere or the other, for a second or sometimes up to a few seconds and I can never tell where it is coming from. Then it just goes away.

    Any suggestions guys?
     
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    My opinion is unfortunately that you got a bad one. I don't have any of these problems. Although I typically just stick with IE, which I find fantastic, and don't use Chrome.
     
  11. UncleSpam

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    @Crazysah

    Did you check the latency of your system?
     
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    I have an 8GB one on order and the part number is different than the one they now have with 4GB. If you think about it the RAM size is the only thing that isn't changeable at assembly time as it is soldered on the motherboard from what I have read. This change allows them to manufacture a single motherboard (assuming the CPU is socketted) and simplifies their inventory which they seem to be struggling with due to the volume of orders they have received. Smart move from their viewpoint. Hopefully they will return with an 8GB model later. The current 512GB SSD model with 4GB is $150 less than the 8GB one was, so at least they also dropped the price point.
     
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    Just got off the phone with Lenovo and at first they quoted me about $239 for the 3yr in home+accidental. I also have an i7/256 purchased from Best Buy. I asked if that was regular or sale pricing and the guy put me on hold for a while and then came back with $191 for 3yr in home+accidental. Thanks a lot for your post!

    I got off the phone with Provantage before this call and the guy told me they only offered the 1yr in home+accidental or the 3yr depot only for the Y2P. He also said that some people had mistakenly purchased thinking that they would be able to apply the 3yr in home+accidental from Provantage but that later they weren't able to apply it. There were success stories in this thread, so not sure what the actual story is with Provantage.
     
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    I have an 8GB-512GB-Windows 8.1 Pro model on order. Part number 59394173.
    I hope they will not ship a lesser model instead, nowhere on my invoice does it say that I ordered an 8GB model. Or any other details, for that matter, it just says “Yoga 2 Pro - 59394173 -…”
     
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    Y2P which initially had very little light bleed is developing significant light bleed (go so far as to say light "glow" as it is more than typical light bleed) in the upper right hand corner.

    One of the negatives of the type is "flexible" device is that we are constantly flexing it. This flexing can slowly create light bleed where none previously existed as the screen is being slightly warped.

    That's the bad news. The good news is this light bleed is really only noticeable when I boot up or when the screen goes to sleep and is blank. Just using the desktop or even watching Netflix in letterbox it is hardly noticeable. This may also be an unintended consequence of the BIOS flash that improved the yellow thing.

    So, while concerning, it is not yet troubling as it doesn't seem to negatively affect the actual use of the machine. Will keep and eye on it to see if it degrades further. Anyone else seeing this? Increased light bleed as time passes, especially when booting or sleeping?
     
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    WORD REGARDING WARRANTIES:

    Anyone who uses DirectTV can take advantage of their Home Electronics Warranty. This covers all damage or general pooping out of your computers and TV's for only $25 a month added to your bill. Since it covers everything it is well worth it.

    Look into it.
     
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    ** Oops - double post **
     
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    Yes. When I'm doing absolutely nothing/just browsing the web then it says it is fine with no dropouts. If I'm watching a video or something or just have many many tabs open/watching a video, it'll say, 'you may experience dropouts... One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. At least one detected problem appears to be network related... One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for bIOS update.'
     
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    Got my y2p this morning and it was the first thing i noticed. Maybe we have to get used to the trackpad...
     
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    Regarding the touchpad. Several users have uninstalled the existing drivers and installed the Yoga 13 latest drivers. That seems to improve the behavior of the touchpad.

    I think the driver for the touchpad is a resource hog. Since I dislike touchpads, I disabled mine and use a mouse or touchscreen exclusively.
     
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    That's what I have on order and my order has the same part number. Website claims it will ship on the 15th. It is a bit annoying that the order gives no details on the options purchased. I did a search on the lenovo website of the part number and in the results, under the products tab, I could see our part number and the bullet item that it has 8GB. I will certainly be checking mine closely when it arrives!

    Doing a google search on "lenovo 59394173" returns several websites that show the specs on this part number as 512GB SSD and 8GB memory.
     
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    Anyone tried widi? Do we have to install something? Cant get it to work...
     
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    Glad I'm not the only one (or two). I'm not sure if it's an OS or a hardware issue. It doesn't happen with a mouse, though.

    Is it just my system or does two-finger scroll not work properly when using any non-native resolution? It becomes incredibly jittery and imprecise. This is particularly apparent in Chrome, and some sort of box appears where I tap as well.
     
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    I'm at native resolution, and find two-finger scroll to be a bit inconsistent. It works well enough that I use it constantly, but the speed at which it scrolls seems to vary randomly. It might have something to do with how my fingers are spaced, but it's hard to pin down.
     
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    This light bleed is becoming quite concerning. The top right and bottom left corners have developed quite a distinct yellowish glow that extends almost 2 inches onto the screen. Looks nasty in Netflix. What gives? What is causing this? Had almost no bleed initially.
     
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    I rely a lot on the tap and drag and this also drove me crazy when I first got the y2p. The Yoga 13 drivers did not fix this for me. The generic synaptic driver for windows 8.1 (link posted earlier, I don't have it) fix this perfectly and everything works like it should with the touchpad based on using it for the past week. Its like night and day for me to be able to drag anything I want without even thinking about it. The only thing that I've heard mentioned that the synaptic driver doesn't support is it doesn't disable the trackpad in tablet mode. This hasn't mattered to me at all.
     
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    My clemintine i7, 8gb ram, 256gb ssd isn't supposed to arrive until mid January -_- I've been following this thread for awhile and decided to join to ask a few questions. How well does minecraft run on it and do we still need to go to multiple places to disable some things. I saw some people say that they needed to disable certain brightness settings in multiple places or something...also does anyone have the razer orochi or logitech g230? How well do these work on the yoga. I would expect the headset to work fine after I get the asus xonar u3 mobile sound card...but the orochi is bluetooth. I don't intend to upgrade to dual band wifi. Do you think I'll have problems connecting with the orochi if I'm doing tons of other work too? Thanks in advance.
     
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    So, anybody know anything on the video/streaming thing and the stuttering videos?
     
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    I do too, but mine is lower right and lower left.
     
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    I do too, but mine is lower right and lower left.
     
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    Well this is getting bad. I notice if I put my index finger behind the panel and my thumb on the top right corner and flex it back a bit the screen bleed goes away completely. Does that mean that something inside is bending or pulling apart?

    So disappointing. This screen was perfect :-(

    M
     
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    Ok, I think I have identified the source of the light bleed from the top right corner. It seems that whatever they use to glue the panel down to the backing has loosened. If I press down on the top left corner of the screen it is rock solid. If I press down on the top right side where the light bleed is it flexes downward. When I push down on the border the light bleed disappears.

    So it would appear I don't have a panel problem, I have a glue problem. Bummer. Will contact Lenovo today. Hopefully getting this fixed won't involve sending my Y2P into some shop for 3 weeks.

    The light bleed sucks but what concerns me more is that the panel's integrity seems to be failing and could get worse. I hope Lenovo has a local shop that can take a look at this.
     
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    Lol, warranty support at Lenovo simply could not be more clueless. Do they train these people at all?

    I just spent 20 minutes on the phone explaining to a Warranty Rep what "light bleed" is. After going over and over it again he finally asks, "So is this like dead pixels?" I almost laughed. How can someone work in Computer Warranty Support and have NEVER heard of light bleed?

    Anyway, they sent me an RMA label and 7 business days for repair. Ugh. So I'll lose my computer for 2 weeks and they will basically say there is nothing they can do about it.
     
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    Did they send you the confirmation email already? I spoke to them about getting a replacement about two days ago and have not received any confirmation. I sent an email asking about the replacement order number that they gave me and I'm waiting for a response.
     
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    Guys, what can I do about the stuttering videos thing?
     
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    Try using a mouse and temporarily disabling the touchpad. I wonder if that will make a difference?

    If that does not... try disabling Wi-Fi and see if it helps...

    Eventually, you may be able to identify the culprit.
     
  37. Crazysah

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    How will I play the videos if I disable the Wi-Fi? I need internet to load the videos. It doesn't happen with videos I have on the hard drive.
    And disabling the touchpad? How would that make any difference?
    Maybe I should disable DPTF? How would I do that?
     
  38. UncleSpam

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    Can you download a video locally and see if it still has the same issues on playback?

    The touchpad uses plenty of resources, even when idle.

    DPTF can be disabled from the BIOS setup...
     
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    I noticed almost right away that the lid twists a bit if you open it by a corner, which I was used to doing. It only took a couple of times to notice and then I made myself always start opening it from the center of the lid. If you are opening your Y2P from a corner, you might be flexing the screen a lot and creating the glue separation.
     
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    I've been careful from the beginning never to open the lid by the corner for that very reason. No, that isn't it. Just seems to be a defect.

    I'm a BestBuy Elite Member so I have until the 8th to exchange it if I decide to. Hate going the repair route as that just means I'll probably get someone else's crap refurb.
     
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    By the way he just said that it works fine on videos he has on the hard drive... I would personally try different browsers, it might be codec related...
     
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    I've tried multiple browsers. Chrome, IE, Firefox and none of them work! Anything else you recommend?
     
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    The suspects are the video driver and/or the Wi-Fi driver. Unless you installed your own codecs, I don't see that playing a major role.

    @ mitchellvii

    Unless they replace the computer, you should not get a rebuilt one; they will probably just fix the current one. However, since you can exchange it, go for it... just back up and then delete personal data...
     
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    Just got widi to work and must say it is dissapointing...
    Playing 1080p video has framedrops, poor colours and it doesnt look like hd, even if the resolution says so.
    xbmc only takes 2/3 of the screen with no possibility to go fullscreen.
    So i guess ill have to go wired or buy nuc.
     
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    Use IE - or turn DTPF off in the EFI Bios

    That solves it.
     
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    BTW, talked with chat today (Ryan M) got some info that some may find useful. I asked if I would indeed receive an 8GB model since that is what I ordered (I was concerned about them disappearing from the website) he said I would receive the exact specs I ordered and also clarified with:

    "we removed all models with 8GB from the site due to high demand. They likely will be put back up after the holidays"

    Upon inquiring about what if I receive a defective laptop, will you be able to send another 8GB model even if they still aren't listed on the website?

    "I believe we will be able to create replacements for it, if not we can offer a full refund."
     
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    Funny thing is I'm not seeing a lot of chatter online from people having light bleed issues on the Y2P.

    Since I am returning this was considering maybe getting something else similar with a pen, such as the XPS11 or the Viao Flip. But each one has it's own issues: XPS11 only has an 11.6" screen which would make using my database a challenge - it also has that weird keyboard without real keys. The Viao Flip has a pretty steep screen angle when in laptop mode and as a tall guy, I love being able to push the screen back far enough to view the screen directly. Also there is just something cheap looking and feeling about the Flip, especially the keyboard.

    Another option would be the Surface Pro 2 which adds another kickstand angle and has a great pen, but I wouldn't be able to use it in bed propped up on my legs like I can the Y2P and again, the screen is way too small for my database.

    Far and away the Y2P is a greater value than all of these, especially since I got mine on sale for $899. Just irks me it has no pen. Really wish Lenovo had thrown that in, even though I can achieve 90% of the effect with a terrycloth wipe (for palm rejection) and a microfiber fine point stylus.

    ** I am really surprised that no one has written a simple palm rejection app that allows you to have a floating "dead zone" above your work to wrest your palm. Android has tons of these but as far as I can tell nothing for Windows.
     
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    I think there's not much about light bleed, because it's incredibly common. This is not isolated to the Y2P. I don't honestly know if I can ever remember using an LCD that had absolutely zero light bleed.
     
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    Yes they all have a little but this is pretty extreme and it is new due to the screen becoming loose from the lid. I've owned many IPS panels and this is bar far worst I have seen. Imagine the sun shining into a dark room.
     
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    As with most extended warranties, this would tend to be a losing proposition for consumers. Think about what you'd spend over a lifetime of purchasing these warranties, it gets depressing...
     
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