***Yoga 2 Pro Owners Thread***

Thanks for sharing that.
Now hurry up and ship. I have been spoiled with ordering stuff and getting it super-fast. LOL

 

Oh no, my shipping date just changed form 2013/12/26 to 2014/01/23. Not happy.

 

I agree. If you buy a lot of warranties, consider how many times you have had to make claims. If it's not very many times, you could become a self-insurer and put your premiums away in case you have to replace something. It's definitely a high-profit item for the warranty companies, but they worry us into buying insurance. I try to remember that credit card purchases get warranty extensions provided by the card company.

 

It is pretty rough...but I noticed at least with my LG 2013 LED LCD set...I need to have the Pro right under it to not experience dropouts... it then works pretty great.

(Except you might as well use an HDMI cable :/ )

 

So I know that some of you have been experiencing wifi dropouts while others have not. Is there like a "good" wifi router that would work well with the yoga? Like one that seems to work well without many dropouts or disconnections at all? Or is it just seem to be the luck of the draw with the wifi...some of you report no problems while some of you report problems. I was thinking of getting a new router that was a little faster like the Netgear nighthawk or something but I don't know if it will make a big difference. You guys mind sharing what wifi router you have and how well connection works with it...again...maybe its just certain laptops...

 

My shipping date (to Canada) just got moved to December 20th from January 1st!

 

The odd thing I have noticed about running the Y2P at 1920 x 1080 resolution:

1) Firefox scrolls MUCH smoother and seems less glitchy. Touch on it works MUCH better than at 3200 x 1800.
2) If you use a font smoothing algorithm like qdipp fonts look every bit as nice at 1920 x 1080 as they do at 3200 x 1800.
3) Using external monitors is MUCH easier.
4) Once you get over the initial thrill of having access to 3200 x 1800, the negatives of such high res (external monitors, any Adobe products, etc) start to outweigh the benefits.
5) The area where you will notice the biggest drop in quality is Metro IE since MS pretty much destroyed fonts-smoothing in that. At 1920 x 1080 fonts seems a bit jagged (good job MS you idiots).
6) I would expect battery life at 1920 x 1080 to be improved over 3200 x 1800 for obvious reasons.

In conclusion (and I never thought I would say this), I think I will be staying with good ole 1920 x 1080. The trade-offs for 3200 x 1800 simply are not worth it to me.

 

I installed Photoshop last night....Damn those menus are small. I guess that is normal at the 3200 level. I don't use it that much on my laptop so will stick with 3200 for now. Good to know that is result of 3200.

 

Had a chat with my ISP (In Australia) today, and advice from their support team is the modem/router issued by them has compatibility issues with Windows 8.1 devices wirelessly accessing the router. So if that's true it may be the case for other people with particular types of modems. I would suggest most, if not all, major brands on the market selling modem/routers would be compatible or have already addressed the issue with wireless devices on Windows 8.1. Hope this helps anyone else with the same issue. I will try connecting to someone else's wireless internet tomorrow and if there's no dropouts it should confirm what my ISP has said.

 

My ISP (Uverse from AT&T) provides me with a 2Wire residential gateway, which is used as a bridge to connect via ethernet to my 4th gen Apple Timecapsule. The Timecapsule does all the work (it is officially Windows 8.1 compatible, according to Microsoft).

I have no real Wi-Fi problems with the many devices that connect to it via Wi-Fi, including the Y2P.

 

You make a good point about the role of the router. For years I have used the modem/routers supplied by the phone company which they replace about every year because of problems. With my previous computers, I had frequent drops and would have to restart my computer or the router, sometimes several times a day. In desperation I bought my own router, but still have to use the modem part from the phone company, and have not had one drop since. That was August of this year and this is the router: Amazon.com: ASUS RT-N66U Dual-Band Wireless-N900 Gigabit Router: Computers & Accessories.

This does not excuse computer problems, but the router can certainly be the weak link, as it was in my case. I got the router before the Y2P, and have not had any wifi problems, but I did with previous laptops until the router purchase.

 

So you guys think that it's more or less the modem/router that people have and not the yoga that is causing the problems with their wifi?

 

I'm sure the router is a factor, given all other things being equal. That would explain why some users have had luck with the older (Windows 8.0) drivers.

For the Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro, it would be the Microsoft Wi-Fi driver from March 21, 2013, version 16.0.0.62...

 

i7/8/256: Only issue I had (yellow seems OK, don't care; the display is super) was wifi dropouts/"limited connection" (basically unusable). My iPad had no problem with the range, but this wimpy Intel card did. Due for a router upgrade (want to eventually transition to ac) so purchased the Nighthawk (was happy with my old Netgear router). No more problems.

For those that do not want to perform surgery, a router upgrade may be the way to go. Was for me.

The bang for the buck with this thing is tremendous. If they had just put in the Intel ac card, the yoga2pro would have been a home run.

 

Keep us posted if any problems arise. I'm looking at the nighthawk too. Pretty fast?

 

Do you have any other devices connected to it too like maybe some smartphones or a smart tv?

 

I think it is a combination of Windows 8.1 changing the way they handle wireless networks combined with routers that don't support the new Microsoft wireless code. I also have the Asus RT-AC66U router and have not had any problems with wifi dropout, although I bought my Y2P to go back to school in January so I don't use it a ton yet. I also switched out the N card for the AC version, and my throughput went up drastically on 5 GHz.

I think if you buy and good, modern router that is fully Windows 8.1 compliant then you will probably be ok.

 

For me the Netgear WiDi (PTV3000) is working fine (after doing a firmware update on the Netgear to latest version).

One tip that really helped the video for me was to drop the Yoga2P down to 1920x1080 = 1080p resolution (right-click on the Windows desktop and select "Screen Resolution" and then CLONE the display to the WiDi. That likely reduces the "strain" on the Intel 4400 graphics chip and seemed to result in very watchable 1080p video on my HDTV. I can't tell - maybe its only managing 30fps instead of 60fps, but very watchable for movies/TV etc

There is a very slight lag but its tiny. (might not be OK for gamers?).

Range for me is fine across the living room - 15 - 20 feet to the Widi receiver (I didn't check further). i have had to "manually" reconnect to the Netgear device -- Charms / Project / select the Netgear WidI -- maybe that's supposed to be automatic in an ideal world.

For sound, I had to go into the Windows Control Panel / Sound and play around. The WiDi was shown as a Sound device and I think I set it as the Default playback device. Without that I had video on the WiDi and sound from the Y2P. (That was in Clone display mode. WiDi-only mode might do this automatically, I didn't try that)

I'm sure wired HDMI would be even "cleaner" and you can get 15' HDMI to micro-HDMI cable for <$15 on Amazon

 

A while ago people were talking about sleeves for the Y2P. Did people find one that fit well without having to resort to paying a lot for something from sfbags.com?

 

If you are having issues with your wifi, go into Network Settings under properties for your wifi and uncheck IPv6. You don't really need this and it has been known to cause issues.

See if this doesn't fix things.

 

While at BestBuy today exchanging my light bleeding Y2P for a new unit, I gave serious thought to going with the Viao Flip instead. Of course the pen being the primary attractor.

However, one look at the screen and the decision was made. Even if you set the Y2P at 1920 x 1080 the screen is so far superior to the Viao Flip it isn't funny. Fonts on the Y2P (even at 1920 x 1080) were smooth and dark. Fonts on the Flip were fuzzy and gray. Not even close.

People rave about the Flip screen but I don't see it. I found the screen to be quite average. Y2P for the win.

P.S., One reason the Flip screen may have looked "fuzzier" is that the active digitizer seems to add something of a screen-dooring effect.

 

cheers for the info mate. I'm keeping an eye on the thread before I buy soon

 

For me, Adobe Products inability to scale (what's up with that Adobe?) and the wonkiness of DPI scaling with an external monitor on some apps (such as MS Access) makes 3200 x 1800 a real problem. If not for those I would be tempted to stay with 3200 x 1800 as well just cause it's so purty.

 

There are many other programs that have that issue. Quicken 2014, TextPad, Siemens NX 9... and probably a very long list.

Interestingly enough, Adobe Photoshop Lightroom seems to scale just fine... and somebody said that Adobe inDesign (latest version?) does as well...

 

Guys, is there a single 'update utility' for Yoga, similar to Thinkvantage System Update etc? Or I need to check Lenovo's website for updates to drivers and utilities?

Thanks.

 

That should technically work but hard to tell as it says my brand new Y2P requires no updates. However, I had already run the BIOS update before launching this for the first time.

 

No tool that I know of, but you could subscribe to the RSS feed to get notifed. The RSS link for the Y2P (US website) is Lenovo Support - RSS Feed

 

I got a strange problem with my Y2P for a few days now. The windows taskbar is always in front when I watch a video on fullscreen. It doesn't matter if it's WinMediaplayer, VLC or even online videos like Youtube.
Found something on a few forums about this problem, but they recommend to turn of the scaling feature in Windows. Not really an option when I'm running it in 3200x1800. And goeing back to 1080 isn't a solution for me also.

Did anyone else run into this problem or has any recommendation for me?

And yes, I know, that I can make the taskbar scroll out of the screen, but I like to have it always visible, besides in fullscreen videos....

Thanks for any help!

 

I mentioned this earlier in the thread but I bought this one and I love how it fits and looks:
Targus - Ultralife Executive Leather Sleeve for 13" Apple® MacBook Air® - Black - TES606US 13 sleeve&cp=1&lp=3

Now, the website says it's like $40+ dollars but in-store it was listed for $24 a month ago or so.

 

Got my Y2P (I7/256GB/Silver) today. I'm in Ireland and ordered it off the Lenovo Ireland website as I get discount through my employer. It is very hard to buy one off that site as it is constantly in and out of stock (mostly out of stock) but I managed to get one for the short period of time it was in stock.

Ordered the Y2P and the Y2P sleeve on 27/11. Sleeve shipped from China on 28/11. Received the sleeve on 04/12. Y2P shipped from Netherlands 04/12. Received Y2P today. Would have received the Y2P last Friday only for a labeling mistake by UPS.

Manufactured date on Y2P box is 20/11/13. Manufactured on my birthday. How did they know!! Shipped from manufacturing plant on 24/11.

Thats all the mainly irrelevant info I have for now. Will be interesting to see if it has an updated software/firmware image installed.

 

Soon to be an owner of the Y2P (i really wanted a Y2K).

 

Hi,

I will be getting my new Y2P on Wednesday and wanted to know how to confirm if it has the latest BIOS update that fixes some of the issues?

If this has been asked before than my apologies but hopefully someone can help me here.

Cheers,
Viman

 

I've been mostly a desktop PC user, and the Y2P is connected to an external monitor. The close-lid option is set to do nothing. Any downside to running the Y2P 24/7 with no sleep or hibernate?

 

@opus567

The Y2P runs pretty cool and quiet, unless it's processing data constantly.

Unless you need to run things 24/7, why keep the computer on all that time? It makes for an expensive energy waster/dust filter...

I'm assuming you're going to use it as a laptop as well? Otherwise, all those nice features will be wasted...

If you're keeping the machine plugged in most of the time, consider keeping the charge limit on the battery set to 60%. Make sure computer is set on a flat/solid surface with space for ventilation.

 

Some people have inquired about cases.

I bought a sleeve for a 13' Macbook Air from www.rickshawbags.com in SF and it fits the Yoga 2 Pro perfectly. I wanted something that was compact, but that would protect the computer when put inside a backpack. Thus, there was no need for additional carrying straps or zippers. Also, I've read complaints on other sites that zippered cases will abrade the finish of the edges of a laptop over time, so I specifically looked for a case without a zipper. This was important for me in order to preserve the beautiful finish on my clementine orange computer for as long as possible.

It's a sleeve, so it's open at one end which might be a deal breaker for some people. In my estimation, it's a plus because if you choose the vertical orientation for your sleeve you can slide in your Y2P and still have access to the USB ports and/or power supply. In this way your computer can be protected while it charges.

In case you guys are curious after looking at the picture, I designed my case with the ripstop, waterproof black sailcloth and the grey fleece interior.

 

I upgraded my Wifi Card to the AC Dual Band ( Amazon.com: 7260NGW Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 802.11ac, Dual Band, 2x2 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 4.0* - Ship from California, In STOCK: Computers & Accessories)

Big difference for me (I have a AC Router).

One word of warning - the 2 connectors are VERY hard if you have big hands like me! Took me 30+ mins.

 

Those antenna connectors are so small that we all have "big hands" for that task.

Do you have any disconnect issues? It may be to soon to tell, but let us know.

What version driver did you use?

 

None so far in my bedroom which is where I used to get them. Drivers are latest from intel website - uninstalled the Lenovo ones and just gone straight Drivers - none of the Pro Wireless software.

Even in my bedroom I get 10+mbs transfer to my NAS which is Cabled to the router - I was getting 500kps-1mbs previously.

 

Pro Wireless stuff is so ancient... Intel needs to revamp the entire thing... the bad interface sticks out like a sore thumb in Windows 7+...

 

For those seeking a really excellent handwriting stylus for the Y2P I highly recommend the following:

Amazon.com: ButterFox Micro-Knit Fabric Tip Capacitive Touch Screen Stylus Pen For iPad / iPad2 /New iPad 3 / iPhone 4 / iPhone 4S /iPhone 5/iPod Touch / HTC / Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 / Samsung Galaxy S2 S3 II III S4 /Galaxy Note - Black: Cell Phones &

It is only $11.99 and has a microfiber mesh 4mm firm tip as well as a capped real pen on the reverse side. The microfiber mesh is very durable and slides smoothly over the glass providing just enough resistance to feel natural. The tip is also firm which means you dont have to mash as hard to write.

I find using this along with a screen wipe under my palm to prevent unwanted touches is about as close to writing with a digitizer as you are going to get until Microsoft finally lets someone create a bluetooth stylus for Windows tablets.

And by the way, companies like Adonit DO want to create bluetooth styli for Windows tablets but Microsoft will NOT allow them too. That's why Adonit makes bluetooth styli only for iPads. Seriously Microsoft, what is your deal? You intentionally block innovation then wonder why your Marketplace sucks? We could have a pressure sensitive bluetooth stylus with palm rejection for our Y2P right now but Microsoft themselves are blocking it. Screw them.

 

Is that really thick enough? I thought it said the thickness of the case was .5...and isn't the yoga, at its largest, .61?

 

Yoga 2 Pro i5 128 just went on sale at BestBuy for $899. Amazing price.

 

Will selecting 'Remove everything and reinstall Windows' in Recovery reinstall a 'barebone' Windows 8.1, or with all the apps and bloatware from Lenovo?

 

If you're talking about the Lenovo recovery tool, it will install everything as it was when you bought the computer.

The bloatware from Lenovo is moderate and you're probably better off removing certain things after you figure out what they do and if they are important to your workflow...

 

Has anyone done the "Gauge Reset" from within the Lenovo Energy Manager? It says to do it every 1-2 months and I'm pretty sure I saw that it said it would take a couple of hours. I decided to do it today while I was working (on a different computer) and it's now at a solid 8 hours and still going. I can't believe how long this is taking. My battery was around 65% when I plugged it in and started the Gauge Reset, and it's been slowly draining since the gauge reset began. I'm wondering if it's going to take it all the way down to 0% before it finishes. And if so, that's gonna be all night....

Might be the last time I do this.

 

I can tell you most all the MacBook 13" air sleeves are too small. I went to best buy and none of them fit. The MacBook pro 13 cases are better. I got a PKG one that I posted here earlier and like it with zipper. it is not skin tight but fits pretty well.

 

Winkey+R and type: msinfo32

Look for BIOS line and compare that to the new one on Lenovo's site.

I upgraded mine and it is has the date 10/31/13

 

That calibration requires the draining of the battery... that takes a long time. I remember trying to do it one time, but I gave up on it because I had other stuff to do and could not afford to let the computer do its thing....

One day, I might just let it complete.

 

so i just have the Y2P for a couple of day now>

It's a nice machine but it has MAJOR latency issues!
I was going to use it to play dj sets on traktor pro, but it's unusable. Constantly audio drops...

Latencymon:

Your system appears to be having trouble handling real-time audio and other tasks. You are likely to experience buffer underruns appearing as drop outs, clicks or pops. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. At least one detected problem appears to be network related. In case you are using a WLAN adapter, try disabling it to get better results. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates.
LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:03:13 (h:mm:ss) on all processors.


ndis.sys (network driver interface specification)
usbport.sys (portdriver for usb 1.1 & usb 2.0)
seems to be the culprits...

for a 1300$ pc i thought it would be able to run without issues. guess i have to return it

 

That or you could make the suggested changes and see if it fixes the problem.