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    LG P330 (i7 + Nvidia 555m!)

    Discussion in 'LG' started by R3d, Jun 10, 2011.

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    Yeeeees....with all their Tri-Gate Transistor goodness :D
     
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    if this isnt too expensive i would be sure to sell my laptop to get one of these. i love small laptops with good performance.
     
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    I'd expect a premium price for one of these... I hope LG choose to release this laptop worldwide!
     
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    More manufacturers should consider this.
     
  6. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    the envy 15 did, and what has replaced it, the envy 14, which has, you guessed! a ODD!

    man the public complain that there arent system lights for the HDD or whatever, such a waste
     
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    No need for internal optical drives in this day and age.
     
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    Agree. But is it too much to ask some keyboard lights?
     
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    Waiting for a portable high quality 1600x900 laptop? Sony Z13 is a portable high quality 13" 1600x900 laptop (and 1920x1080). Plus you get super-fast raid 0 ssd, core i7, blu-ray, gpu...

    It's in the in-between time right now where the Z13 is a little hard to find and the Z2 is still a few weeks away. But still, I'm just sayin...

    As far as this one having 1600x900, why do you say false hope? It may. We don't know yet.
     
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    It seems to me that P330 is trying to copy MacBooks. The extreme minimalism, same stone-age resolution, glossy high quality screen. Besides, sudden change in resolution would also mean much higher price. I don't think they want to change the pricing of a laptop series that much.

    Z is too expensive for me, it costs 2000€ where I live. The older Core 2 Duo version still costs over 1000€ which is insane. The new one will have SSD by default, so the base model will be $2000 in US.
    Is the laptop I'm looking for possible to be affordable? I think so, I don't need a bunch of stuff that they put in Z (such as dedicated GPU).
     
  11. aurnab

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    alienware m14x or wait for this ?
     
  12. nar0

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    Well spec wise they are pretty much the same.
    Just P330 is half the weight and about 1cm/half an inch thinner.

    Just depends how much you value weight/size (screen is IPS but at unknown resolution, probably will be 1280x800 like the old P300/P310 or 1368x768 like the P430/P530).
     
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    Actually, I believe the N12P could be anything between the 550M down to the 520M. The 550, 540, 525 and 520 all have N12P as their codename and are differenciated by -GT, -GS, GE respectively. Only the 555M is different being a N12E.
     
  14. nar0

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    The wording on the line mentioning N12P seems to me at least that it's just mentioning how most laptops of this size use 520M - 540M graphics cards while this laptop has a 555M.
     
  15. Stradevarius

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    I don't know...this is going to be a beastly notebook. Do you need a laptop now or later?

    Personally I would wait, but that's because I don't like big clunky laptops.

    Stradevarius
     
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    This is the true heir apparent to the Vaio Z imo.

    This laptop if it lives up to they hype is perfect.

    Hopefully it's within "reason" as far as $ goes.
     
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    this, the thinkpad x1 or the asus u36sd for me. Which ever has lowest temp is my next laptop.
     
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    In all honesty, I can see this doubling up the price of the U36SD.

    It's definitely going to be a niche, top of line caliber machine (like the Z).
     
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    so.. will this be released in 2012 Q1 or in september.... and will this even be available in the US or canada?
     
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    I would like to know the exact same thing
     
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    This is just a guess, but I would reason that it would be released in Q4 of this year. Q1 of next year is too close to Ivy Bridge. If I was LG, I would release early of Q4.

    Stradevarius
     
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    The main concern here is heating/cooling. If this is @ 3.6-3.8 lbs then I'm really skeptical especially if it has a full 2nd gen i7 and GT 555m card.

    I mean there is a reason why M11x (4.5lbs) and M14x (6.5lbs) weighs and slightly thicker dimensions for proper cooling.

    So basically to sum it up, it definitely is a sexy laptop with top notch features on a 13 incher, but can it provide proper cooling?
     
  24. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    ^^indeed that is the question, but LG did it before with the p310
     
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    There's only one vent on it that I can see, and a fairly small one at that. The only indicator that this may still be able to handle the hardware is the casing. The thick dimensions without ODD mean that the space has been used for something else. Also, the vent is coming from a protrusion which is most likely to accommodate an exceptionally large fan. For now, there's no assurance this will handle heavy load without heat issues. I think at the very least there's going to be some serious noise blowing from that vent.
     
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    I wouldn't use Alienware as a benchmark for weight of a laptop, as they are typically larger and heavier than similarly equipped laptops. The 555m is only a 45W TDP card too.

    The Vaio Z ran a GT 330m GPU in a 3 lbs chassis that also held two SSD's and an optical drive. So with good engineering it's possible.
     
  27. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    The P310 ran really hot and it used C2D CPU's. I think LG eventually stopped shipping the more powerful C2D chips. With the SB CPU, which has a lower thermal limit than the Arrandale and runs as hot, LG will have a real challange to keep the CPU and GT 555 GPU cool. If they can get it to work it is a beautiful notebook.

    Bronsky :cool:
     
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    they used the T or P series of the chips? I only saw the P series for sale
     
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    About the fan, the fan on my P300 is amazing. I actually have the P300 with me right now on my left, because if it was to the right of my hand, the amount of heat from the fan would be make it uncomfortable.
    I'm sure they are going to use a similar or better fan for the P330.

    I'm expecting this to be around $1500 USD minimum though. Thats how much the other P300/P310s MSRP for I believe.

    Also I heard from a laptop shop here in Canada that LG has stopped selling new laptops in Canada T_T. Don't know if it's true, but I haven't seen any new LG laptops being sold so far.

    Might have to end up just getting it in Hong Kong or something.
     
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    Have we confirmed the keyboard is indeed not back-lit?
     
  31. CedricFP

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    The P330 definitely looks good but isn't it a tad on the heavy side? Especially without an optical drive?
     
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    With a GT 555m? No, not heavy at all. The Alienware M11x that uses ULV CPU and much less powerful GPU, GT 335m (well now GT 540m), weighs 4.5 lbs by comparison.
     
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    Screen resolution is a deal breaker for me, z it is. :(
     
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    I never understood the need for 1080p on a 13" or smaller machine, personally. I like a huge desktop resolution on a big monitor, but not on a tiny screen. 1600x900 is almost overkill imho too. But to each their own.
     
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    1080p on my first Z11 was hard to read. Increasing DPI scaling only messed some of my programs up. I loved the 900p screen on my second Z11.

    A 900p IPS display would be rockin on this guy :D
     
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    A 900p is perfect for a 13", but even the 720p isn't a dealbreaker on a 13" when it's packing a GPU as good as the nvidia 555m. It's just a shame that I can't wait until september cause I need a laptop before I go to college.
     
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    720p is a dealbreaker for me. If it doesn't have 900p, I'm going to have to go with the new Z.
     
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    Why not the Sony S? IMHO better machine because it has the dedicated GPU internal, offers 1600x900 screen option, and costs much less than the Z that has the GPU and optical drive in an external dock.

    But I'm hoping there will be some affordable base model on special at some point. I'm hoping to replace my M11x at some point, but not willing to pay more than $900.
     
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    Maybe their not looking at the SA, because the screen quality isn't as good as the Z and quite possibly the P330's IPS display.
     
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    I see. Thanks for the info.
     
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    Yeah, low res is a dealbreaker, but so is a poor quality screen. I've seen the SA in the Sony Style store and although it is a nice laptop, I'm still not sold.

    I bought the Envy 14 when it had the good screen, almost a year ago, but had to send it in for service and instead of fixing it they sent me a new one, with the low res, low quality screen (at that point the high quality screen had been discontinued). I had to return it and I have been searching for something to replace it since.

    A 900p IPS screen would be awesome. I also love the high quality screens on the Z's, but I'm not sold on the dock on the new Z...

    Also the 555m is a good step up from the 6630 or the 6650.
     
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    That's my thought too. 555m is a powerful GPU for a 13" chassis, along with the IPS, LG has me sold.
     
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    I guess the only real problem would be trying to get one if you live in North America, no?
     
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    Probably, seems to be the issue with LG laptops.
     
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    I wish Alienware would respond with M13x, with an equal GPU to this.

    14x just aint a subnotebook... even though it has good battery. 13'' just is the max footprint!
     
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    To me alienware seems more like HEAVYware, really don´t know how can they be so inferior in terms of light weight. Perhaps because of price, since the alienwares seems mainstream with low price, that´s the only reason to explain how heavy they are.
     
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    The M11x should be an M12x and with adding a few more mm in width could be a 13". I do like the M11x, but for it's weight and size it should have had much more substantial specs even from the launch. The current R3 version at least has a Sandy Bridge ULV CPU and 540m GPU. But a full mobile GPU and 555m like the LG makes the most sense to maximize what it can in that form factor.

    To be honest, depending on the cost, I may dump both my Sager and M11x in favor of this LG, if it's even available in the USA. My only issue is that I need something that can run Battlefield 3 reasonably, which unfortunately is going to be one of the most demanding games of 2011 graphically.
     
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    Does anybody think this laptop looks like its missing something, like speakers, power and volume buttons? An awesome screen and graphics won't be nearly as incredible if it doesn't have the sound to match them. Unfortunately I think ultraportables aren't known for having the loudest speakers since they are mostly a matter of whos are bigger and there isn't much space.

    Here's a good pic of the bottom showing the protruding battery back and vent case: LG P330 Notebook With 13.3-inch screen | news, specification, features, prices, review gadget

    So this will be the first computer using the Smart Response hard drive. That's probably going to be really good on one hand, since there's no reason in having the best hardware and be bottle necked at the hard drive. But on the other hand, LG may use this to jack up the price.

    Does anyone know if the battery pack will be removable? I wonder what kind of battery life this thing will have. I imagine the GT555 will suck the battery dry in an hour or so, but that's a blind estimate. We could probably compare voltage of similar setups and assume a battery size for it.
     
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    I thought Smart Response required an SSD and an HDD? There's room enough for both? I would rather just have an SSD.
     
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    I don't know too much about them... but just read this little article. Its pretty recent and says everything you need to know about them.

    Conclusion - Intel Smart Response Technology - SRT | [H]ard|OCP

    So it does use two hard drives, both probably half the size as normal and built into a single piece so I don't know if it would take up more space. They are a cheaper alternative to ssd's and do improve on hdd's time by analyzing what programs you frequently access and sorting them between the two drives to give you the impression of a fast hard drive. The downside is that dedicated ssd technology is still much faster and it may be worth it to pay a little more.

    Personally I don't have a problem with my hdd, so any improvement is a plus. If they can properly implement this technology in an affordable package I will be happy. The good news about this is that it might mean LG's motivations are to lessen the starting price wherever possible.
     
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