LG P330 (i7 + Nvidia 555m!)

I've read about smart response in the past. The smart response technolgoy just uses the SSD like a huge read cache kind of like the Seagate Momentus XT hard drive. Except you just use an SSD plus pretty much any size HDD you want. It's two conventional devices, not a single piece of hardware.

A friend of mine just bought a desktop with the Z68 chipset that has the smart response technology and that's how it works. Although I never knew it was coming to laptops.

 

I don't see why they would use two independent hard drives. That doesn't seem very practical for a space limited design. Maybe they will still only have each hard drive half normal size so that together they aren't much larger than a conventional set up although being two individual units, there would need to be some clearance between them.

If I'm not mistaken I think the momentus is one unit and so can fit in conventional motherboards, but might be slower than this new setup because it's lacking the information management.

 

Its pratical if you use the msata SSDs, that use the mpcie connection available on laptops.

The z68 wasnt really made for desktops, for me it was made with the laptops in mind, and small form factor pcs, since the switching would be something good for both system, switching in a desktop environment isnt logical, only in the power draw sense, but gpus can downclock and pull so little power these days...

 

Thanks for the picture link. This thing looks like Batman's laptop, if he had a personalized laptop. When looking at the bottom the first thing that came to mind was, "Shields on".

 

i really been thinking about asus 43sn, 14inch 550m and 2630qm, but now once i heard about this lg 13 incher, im leaning toward it. can anyone approximately tell a price for this? what range it will be? thanks

 

A bit OT, but do we know if the 14in model of this series will have an IPS display also?

 

dunno, this is the only model in the 13'' range that packs an ips display, currently the sizes with it are 15'' and 12.5''

 

I'm expecting it to be starting at around $1500 USD, a bit cheaper if there are lower grade models with lesser graphics cards (Like the P300 and P310).

I assume you mean the LG P430? It's screen is only listed as a LED LCD screen, so I assume no IPS.

 

Hey Zaraza, when is the asus 43sn gonna be released? in america? i like asus and those specs lol

 

Has anyone had to import an LG computer to the US yet? Can we get an assumption to how hard it will be?
If this computer isn't even brought to NA, how will we go about converting it to english keys?

 

Wait what is the 12.5in model called, and just to be clear the 12.5in comes with an IPS display also? Shame the P430 may not have an IPS display as there aren't many 14in models with a well rated screen.

If it comes at $1500 for the model with the GT555m that is almost a steal. And if there is a model with a lower end gpu, GT540 was it, I think I just maybe sold(specially if it comes in at $1300 and has 5+ hour of battery life.

 

Well my LG P300 is from Hong Kong, I bought it in person so I don't know how hard it would be to order it online, but the keyboard was the US English layout.
I know people have been importing from Germany, though I assume the keys won't be the normal North America English layout.

Also if LG does release the P330 in Canada, importing to the US should be relatively simple, just make sure you get the English keyboard not the Canadian French keyboard.

@coldmack: The 12.5in model is the P220, but I didn't hear anything about it being IPS... though I didn't hear anything about it not being an IPS either, does anyone have a link?

 

there are I think 2-3 models with ips at 12.5'' x220, the 25(something something) from hp and there is another model that I cant remember

There is a minor correction there isnt any 14'' with good guts and a good screen. you either go for 13 or 15, the 14 was a stop gag that is no more

 

If you break out the efficient power circuitry and used the space for a nice sized fan I think you could do it quite nicely.

 

thats a bit high, but 43sn was in my plans, and it cost 1252usd in europe, i might throw in extra 200$ or so, for better gpu and smaller lg.

hey man, its been released long ago in asia, and its starting showing up in europe, cost around 1250usd in Poland for N43SN-VX068 i7-2630QM/4GB/750gb 7200 rpm/BRCombo, no windows. Not sure about mighty US and A.

 

What kind of i7 processor is the p330 specifically? ULV or standard? If its a standard one, than thats pretty impressive

 

It is a regular mobile i7.

 

Ah, yeah I remember reading about that model, it looks like a smaller MBP. If it had looks of the P330 but in smaller form factor, and IPS I would have been sold on that over this(a nvidia GT525m gpu would have been a nice bonus).

Pretty sure the HP Elitebook 2560 doesn't have an IPS screen option. The 12.5in variant of Samsung Series 4 may come with an IPS display, but AFAIK the X220 is the only 12in non-tablet notebook with an IPS display. Samsung also has a 12.5in Series 3 coming out that looks similar to the P220 that may come with an IPS display, but nothing is known really atm.

 

How hard is it to get an LG notebook in NA?

The P330 looks fantastic, but with LG's track record, I'm not sure if we Americans have access to it.

Does anyone from NA have experience getting LG notebooks from their last generation? I know the LG P430 is out now in europe and not anywhere to be seen in NA

 

Last generation LGs were pretty easy to get in NA since Futureshop in Canada sold them. You could just go to a futureshop and pick one up in person (Including the P300 and P310) or order online.

But LG doesn't seem to be selling any laptops in Canada anymore and a store specializating in laptops here told me they have completely withdrawn from the Canadian (laptop) market. Probably makes the chances of the P330 being released in NA very slim.

You'll probably have to import it. Not sure how hard it is to import from Europe. I've imported from Hong Kong before, but that was usually in person.

 

That is exactly where you will be wrong for 2 reasons.
1 there are no laptops with this GPU power under 4 lbs
2 people selling their laptops from asia and europe to people in the USA probably wont take pity on us when they bought it for more than the equivalent of 1600 USD (and when thats a more normal price for a notebook to them!)

 

Unless they use a quality displaypanel , the selling figures won't be too good if it were to be solde for more than 1000€ here.

I mean, after the LGP310, i'd consider the Acer 3820TG as it successor.
Under 4lbs, long battery life, strongest videocard in a 13,3'' and still very cool.

And now it is LG's turn again.

 

No way this thing is gonna sell for less than 1600$. Are we forgetting that it has SSDs + GT555m + IPS display, I am expecting 2k$.

 

same here. anyone know if this will come out in 900p?

 

under-clocked GPU perhaps?

 

so any confirmations that they crippled this great laptop with a 1366x768 resolution?

You'd hope not considering everything else is highly spec'd.

Dissapointed about glossy screen though.
Portables should NOT have glossy screens. The fundamental idea behind portability is the ability to use anywhere. Glossy screens contradict that.

 

Well, I would love it to be 900p; I rather it be a 768p IPS than a 900p TN though.

 

or the 96 core GDDR5 version of the gt 555m

 

Well I asked a friend in Hong Kong to see if anyone there had any leaked info on the P330. Nothing yet.

Glossy screen laptops are great if your mainly using the laptop indoors though, as I usually do.
I do wish that more laptops used transflective screens though. Then you can have a glossy screen that is visible anywhere, even direct sunlight (My phone has a transflective glossy screen, it's great, it's only like a mirror if you look at it at an angle, look at it right on and it looks great, even if the sun is right behind you)

 

well seeing as LG make their own screens, chances are they've got something good for us. though that pic definetly looks like the gorrilla glass sort of reflective screen. big mistake. though if it's 1600x900 and IPS, i might just forgive the glossyness...

 

Anyone word on a projected release date?

 

September my friend.

 

screen res anyone??? this will be the make it or break it for me.
the x220 lost me because of it's low res, here's hoping LG have noticed market trends and offer a 1600x900 screen option

 

there is only 2 pcs that support higher res than 1366*768, both are vaios. There is the MBA 13 that has a higher res, but it aint powerful enough nor it represents the niche market that you are on.

I dont see any trend here, from last year to this sure we had a growth of 100% in models offered with higher res screens, but its hardly of any significance

 

Reality is neither of us really know without knowing volume of sales, so can really only make judgements based on how many models there are out there (i.e not many!), and from observing peoples requests on online forums etc.
Oh and gut feeling
See two or so years ago, you couldn't really get a full powered 13" laptop.
Now that you can get a fully spec'd 13" ultra portable, capable of doing most of what you can do on a desktop, I see increased need for higher resolution screens. I guarantee you other manufacturers will follow suit, and would be very surprised if there are not at elast two non-sony laptop makers with higher res 13" screens by the end of the year.

 

there was the vaio Z and there was the mbp back then not to mention the sxps 13, the LG P310, fujitsu amilo and some others, and if intel is to be believed the future is in ultrabooks (imagine vaio Z sans the good screen, with the pmd at 1000 bucks with variable tdp chips)

the trend for higher res in notebooks is also new and barely have caught on the 15 market, its not even that present on the 17 market. Years ago if you wanted higher res you needed to go for extreme high end consumers and enterprise class, much like it is today.

Indeed the difference in power regarding small notebooks have diminished, but its far from being fair, quads are equal in performance to a 2008 chip, its 3 years difference. dual cores are a lot less powerful. Im saying all this but I dont own a desktop since 2006, but at work I still use them.

Another thing, niche is every segment of the market that you are trying to look. However the only thing that you need to know is that sony more than probably sold less than a million units of the Z last year, a credible number is something close to half that. Those are last year numbers, and those are globally. There isnt much market for the 1000+ laptops, the larger market is in the up to 800. Being the 15 the preferred size, 13 inchers are a much smaller niche, high res even smaller than that, I dont have time to search for market researches, but if you do, you'll see that most of what I said checks out.

the best thing that happened is the lowering of the hardware prices. And that didnt affect much the price of the ultraportables.

one thing to add, sony usually makes the 13 their flagship (against what most companies do, actually all of them) because the market in japan (a high consumer electronics market with a high buying rate of new units) prefer smaller notebooks against large ones. So your best bet is always sony. I dont have info on other high consuming asian markets like korea, but seeing the LG is doing this I can infer that they usually go with that.

 

Yeah the lowering prices of hardware should help out my case, well everyones really...
I still strongly believe the 13" will become one of the largest segments of the laptop market. In the past, people have often gone for 15" because they wanted more power. THe reason they went for a laptop in the first place was due to portability, so if they can increase their portability by going for a 13", and maintain the same performance, then you'll see more and more people doing this. The other possibility is that you'll see more 14" laptops with very small bezels, i.e. a 14" screen on a laptop the size of a 13" ultraportable.

 

highly unlikely, due to the 14 market being dead as it is already, people go by the size of the scream not by the size of the laptop, otherwise the m11x and m14x wouldnt sell that well.

15 is the mainstream market and it should stay that way, dont try to overlap your desires with what you perceive on the future, there is a reason that people usually go for 15, its not because of power, its because of the screen size.

An example my parents (both arriving shortly at the 60s) use 15 and will not change it for a lower model, my younger sister (25), wouldnt change the 15 that she has, I however prefer to go for smaller models. Would I like to see more smaller models, more powerful ones? off course, is it going to happen? sure. How much is going to cost? more than what they would pay for a notebook, I remember when I bought my mbp they complained so much, that I overpaid and so forth, parents are parents always concerned, mostly right most of the times.

All the other people that I know either posses 15 or a netbook + desktop. Do that constitute an accurate source? No. its that its the reality as it is, mainstream is 15, mainstream is where people buy

13 is a small niche product, higher res 13, even a smaller one.

 

fair points, though I wouldn't say 13" is a niche market. pretty sure it'd be growing considerably, soooo many 13" options out there, and apple have helped fuel this. tried to search some info about this but couldn't find anything.

 

niche = part of the market that you are looking at

and yes the niche of 13 is still small.

 

only if the size of this market is small, which i don't think it is anymore.

If it is a niche market, by definition it has to be small. But if it has grown to a significant level, you can't call it niche anymore.

but once again none of us have any figures on this, i'm just making judgements from general observations, no doubt influenced by my personal tastes.

I did some searching just then. I'll use apple because that's all i could find info on.
Apple have ~90% market share on computers over $1000
(desktops and laptops). How many of those sales went to their 13" laptops, i'm not sure.
Last year out of 2.9million laptop sales, 38% of them were macbook airs. That's 1.1 million macbook airs. (yes a lot of those would be the 11" ones but still a hell of a lot of 13" airs)

Then there are the 13" macbook pros.

Then there are non apple, premium 13" notebooks.

Then there are the non apple, sub $1000 13" notebooks (likely the most significant group out of all 13" notebooks)

Niche? not a chance. The market for 13" notebooks is clearly huge.

 

I gave you the economical definition of niche im simple terms.

There is a reason that 15 is called mainstream and where most products are released.

Its actually not hard to know the market percentage of a said size, just google it. Im working as always, do the leg work

 

Found some data from Q2 2010:
Data Shows Clueless Consumers Favor 15-inch Notebooks, Ruining Market
Interesting article actually. He's basically saying that consumers are too dumb to realise 15" isn't the most appropriate laptop, ha. Probably due to his own personal bias (like mine) of wanting a well priced ultraportable.
Seems like Europe are the biggest "offendors"



So that's fairly low, I would probably accept that percentage as somewhat niche. I would put money that they now represent over 10% of the market.

 

yeah I too prefer 13'', I found 11''to be too small, and 14''to be too underpowered, and 15'' is just too big.

 

We have to be careful when interpreting statistics like this. For example, note the high sales of 10" compared to 11" and 12". That's largely driven by the glut of cheap netbooks. But those consumers would probably much rather have an 11 or 12" if those were available for a comparable price.

I guess what I'm getting at is that it's hard to tell whether ~8% of folks buy 13" laptops because only ~8% of folks want 13" laptops, or whether that number is significantly generally depressed by the lack of availability of good, inexpensive options at that size range.

 

great answer, I agree with you, people are pressed by price, availability, preference: style, power, package.

however 10, 11, and 12 are netbook sizes, there are so few standard pcs in that category that its even hard to see what is the market share of those said machines.

 

12 and even 11 may be considered standard pcs, but 10 is definitely netbook territory

GOOD NEWS, seems like engadget updated the picture that originally showed the p330 with a release date of Q1 2012 with a new one with a release date of Q4 2011 ( New LG P330 laptop has it all: brains, brawn, and beauty -- Engadget)

 

Yeah but by the time it's out we will be so very close to the next gen of graphics.

 

im not up to date with graphics, is there a scheduled update coming up?

 

28nm is starting at the end of the year/beginning of next along with a new generation of chips including a new architecture for ATI.

All pretty big changes.

That's not even mentioning the new 22nm CPUs from intel.