Official NBR Linux Team Thread

Ubuntu final release is April 19!

On another note, it seems that Ubuntu is starting to go into a different place... a place that I like. They're continuing to make it even easier out of the box, which will dramatically help raise the distribution and popularity of Linux, and at the same time, heading more toward a "free" system.

This is only good news for the free software community. A lot of people have a problem with all the proprietary and binary blobs that Ubuntu includes in their kernel, but I think they have it right here. You have to get yourself some leverage before you can lift anything up.

 

well, there's gonna be a "GNU"buntu or something that's for those that want a totally pure system.

the standard (Ed,K,X)Ubuntu will still have the binary blobs where necessary.

 

Yeah, I worded that pretty strangely. Thanks for clearing it up.

 

"GNU"buntu... wouldn't that make it Debian?

 

well... kinda, but kinda not...

Ubuntu does make contributions to upstream programs, so it's not like they're totally suckling from the Debian teet.

 

Quoted for truth... and humour

 

Especially considering it's a "teat" Hehe

 

Ha ha ha!! Good ones!

 

leave the worn-out college student alone!

 

Let's congratulate Pita (David is his name, I now know) on becoming a mod!

 

You deserve it, congrats Pita!

 

Congrats. It's good to see more Linux users becoming mods, especially ones that are as knowledgeable.

 

Oooooooooooooo I wanna join =)

 

Waterloo, all you need to do is tack on the NBR Team Linux banner to your signature. See the very first post of this thread for the image(s) and links.

 

Seeing how all the Macs I have seen have only one mouse button, I was wondering how you right click on a Mac when Ubuntu is installed. It has to be possible...right?

I am always tempted to get a black Macbook Pro and wipe out OS X and just use Ubuntu...but the right click things scares me

 

I believe there's a specific keyboard mapping for Mac's as well as some kernel USB features to enable so that Linux can recognize the Cmd+Click as Right Click. I might be wrong though seeing as how Xorg just refused to work on me now after my clean command line Gentoo install, and I have no idea why.

 

I don't think you could wipe out OS X anyway. The Macs don't use a BIOS, so AFAIK, Boot Camp is the only way to get Linux up and running right now. Unless there is some other way to make Ubuntu recognize EFI. I'm pretty sure it's been done, but I'm not sure how. I wouldn't get rid of OS X anyway. Unlike a PC, where you don't have to support Microsoft to get a PC, you're already supporting Apple by buying the MacBook in the first place. So why not just use OS X along with Ubuntu? They have some pretty big hard drives anyway.

 

No way to wipe out OSX? Well then I guess no Macs for me then. I don't want to use any closed, proprietary and for pay OS.

It's really odd if you can't wipe out the OS, though. Ubuntu ShipIt sends you Mac discs (even if you don't want them), and I don't think they expect you to use Bootcamp to install it, do they? Isn't Bootcamp only for Windows anyway?

 

no, the mac discs you get from ShipIt are for PowerPC-based Macs, which still uses BIOS to initialize hardware. The new Intel-based Macs use EFI ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface). Linux doesn't support EFI yet, nor does Windows, which is why you need BootCamp to install another operating system. It's kinda like the Mac version of GRUB.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elilo

Seems like Linux does like EFI... it's Windows that's lagging

 

I was actually just gonna post that apparently all new Macs also have a legacy BIOS emulator that allows them to boot BIOS-dependent operating systems anyway.

 

So I guess it's Bootcamp or bust, right? It seems to be too much of a hassle to do the Mac thing. Thanks for all your replies and efforts. It's good knowledge to have.

I'll certainly look into this. Except that I don't know anyone who runs Linux on a Mac...

 

I want to mention that Canonical is mailing CDs for Feisty Fawn (7.04), although it is not a LTS version.

Ubuntu ShipIt
https://shipit.ubuntu.com/

Kubuntu ShipIt
https://shipit.kubuntu.org/

 

In case anyone here is a minimalist, here's a userbar form of the "famous" Linux Team signature.



Enjoy,
Matt

 

A big thanks to Matt for his awesome new NBR TL signature!

 

thanks you Matt,the color of this signature is cool,i love it

however,may i have a request if you increase the length to fit my sign which is also your design :shy:

 

Actually, I just stumbled upon this. It shows that installing Feisty is actually quite easy on the Macbook, and you really only have to install 915resolution (which is required for any GMA950 notebook) and the madwifi drivers for the wireless card. Looks pretty straightforward if you ask me.

 

Sure. Sorry I didn't get to you sooner. Like this?

 

And the thread perishes to page three...

 

Just look at it this way: we finally have enough traffic in the Linux forum that a two week old thread made it to page 3. That used to take a month or more.

 

Heck, that's true! I didn't think about that. You are right about this new surge of Linux interest...

 

revival bump.

 

Maybe you should add this to the general sticky so people can see it there?

 

Nah, the general sticky is only for useful information.

I guess we could sticky this thread separately, but seeing as it's just a Linux Random Thread...

 

Has anyone played around with Solaris (pure UNIX)? Any comments?

 

I was a sysadmin for a Solaris server a million years ago. My opinion is that if you have Linux, then Solaris is not worth installing unless you can get something valuable with Solaris that Linux does not give you.

Examples of something valuable would be a specific piece of software that only works on Solaris, or a specific capability that Solaris has but Linux does not, or being able to practice sysadmin work on Solaris in order to get certification for Solaris.

 

If you have some serious hardware or just really want to learn System V style UNIX, then Solaris is great. Other than that, it doesn't offer a lot to the general user, and will have much less software available for the end user than Linux does.

 

Solaris doesn't even support SATA drives, so it is a horrible, if not impossible choice as a mobile operating system.

 

Look at me! I have a sig banner! Yay!

 

just got my notebook and im guna get ubuntu on it as soon as i can, its a pretty awsome OS. I thought i was starting to like vista, but its been a real pain already... (i like how it looks though ) so im guna get ubuntu on here as soon as i can

 

Pita's too cool to join the Linux team though.

 

Hey now, official rules state that I can only have one image in my sig, and I like the one I have better

Edit: there, happy now?

 

You guys ready for a new Linux Team signature?

Code:

[plain][URL="http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=107256"][IMG]http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/676/s6cy4.png[/IMG][/URL][/plain]

 

I like. Using it now.

 

Thanks, Matt!

Very sleek!

 

I just ordered my laptop...

can anyone direct me to a good DIY or lesson on Linux? a friend of mine swears by it and I want to learn more

 

The sticky at the top of the page is a good place to start. But the best way is to pick a distribution you want to try and visit their home page.

 

where are you referring to? I honestly know nothing about linux at all...

 

I believe he was referring to the Linux Information Center.

 

thanks matt...but a question for you...

I will admit myself a newbie, and know my limitations. However, I pick things up generally exceptionally quickly. Will linux allow me to game? Will I be able to switch between windows and linux, or do I have to uninstall windows?

It seems ubuntu is the best route for me to go right now to learn it all.

Any advice? Thanks!