Thomas, you're on

Ok, Thomas, here I go. I have ordered a 160 GB hard drive from Newegg and an enclosure. So, I will eventually be reinstalling Windows and I want to install Ubuntu at the same time. Thomas has said before he can guide me through this, so, Thomas, you're on. Anybody else who has any advice, ideas, or information on backing up my data, installing OS's, and the like is welcome to post.

 

LOL, hit me up on IM when your ready.
I can get you through the entire process if you want.
And with that dial up, you might want to start downloading now

 

Actually, I don't have to download it. I can get the 8.04 .iso from pixelot.

 

LOL, that's good

 

I learned my initial skills from Tom so if he's not around I'll be able to help you out.

 

I don;t know anything about Ubuntu but best of luck

 

LOL, I did the same with Calvin.
Man, i should start a business! :
j/k

 

I might need some help too. I mean, I know the basics of installing and using Ubuntu. But beyond that...

 

Feel free to IM over MSN, or PM me.

 

Woot, I'm starting a revolution!

 

LOL......
When are you gonna install it?

 

Shee!! Hold on a sec... I don't even have the .iso yet! I'm waiting until I have my hard drive and the files I want. So just sit tight.

 

I'll bring it on Sunday.

 

Thanks.

 

I don't think you'll need help installing Ubuntu; its as easy as installing Vista.

 

Very straight-forward, except the partitioning part.

 

uh oh, dial up + linux = fail

 

That's what de.1337 said, but Thomas convinced him.

 

Lol. I need some help with Fedora, any one use Core 9?

 

Nope, I used the Live CD and know my way around a little.

 

I installed ubuntu with no help
never used linux before
my only trouble
was i thought the live cd meant ti was installed
so once i shut down and then i had no os i was like uh wtf!
other than the forgetting to install its the easiest thing ive done

 

LOL never heard of anyone doing that. You lose a lot of data?

 

Crazy. Well, we might get faster internet this summer. And, I'm not dependent on linux, so I can always bail out to Windows.

 

You might become very dependent on Linux very soon....

 

Yeah, I've been playing with the Ubuntu 7.10 LiveCD today. Very nice.

 

Why 7.10? 8.04 is out, in fact, i recommend you try LinuxMint. Ordering CD's take forever, even though you have Dial-up i recommend you leave the PC on for a few days to download the latest LinuxMint version and enjoy. Or you could get Pixelot to do it for you, i'm sure i can coax him into doing it.

 

Just try Hardy, it's better than Mint

 

I've actually heard people complain about problems with hardy that they don't have in mint, and the other way around. He should try them both out to see which one he likes more.

 

Well Hardy has some problems that Gutsy didn't, because they released it too early. The current stable version of Mint is based on Gutsy, so that could explain those problems.

 

Probably, LinuxMint 5 will be based on Ubuntu which will bring and fix some problems. Every single version of Mint brings problems from Ubuntu while fixing some and breaking others. That's what makes it different.He might like Ubuntu more because it's up to date but Mint won't lag behind much longer. Heck, if every distro were as big as Ubuntu they would be just as excellent.

 

Ubuntu didn't just randomly become the most popular distro - it did so by creating an easy to use system with a helpful community.

 

So some people make spin-off distro's based on it, what makes it better than it if it's basically the same thing but with minor (but important) differences. Linux philosophy is based on preference, i like distro y better and you like distro x better, that doesn't mean that they are better than one another, it just illustrates preference.

 

And Ubuntu's popularity shows that the majority of the Linux users prefer Ubuntu. From that, we can infer that Ubuntu provides features that the majority of Linux users want, including ease of use and community.

 

So what's your point? A majority of people who use computers use Windows, but i prefer to use Linux.

 

Srunni and Calvin, you guys aren't going to argue every new post to death, on the choice between Ubuntu and Mint, are you?

mint shield /on
I like Mint also, can't wait for the stable 5 Elyssa version...

 

But did you dual-boot, or just one big partition? Because when you do it like I did, you have to do the advanced installation, choosing the correct formats and partitions.

BTW, I have the 8.04 ISO for de.1337, and I'm downloading Xubuntu for him to try out, but I still like 7.10 better, since it doesn't have a couple of the quirks I've experienced in Hardy, such as the random window decoration (often in hot pink) and the 3-level brightness meter.

 

Ok, I think I'm going to install Ubuntu 7.10. But, I need some help with partitioning. Right now I have my main OS one, my recovery one, and my Dell tools one. And, I want to get my OS partition a fresh NTFS format. How would you recommend I do all this? Also, seeing as I have a 60 GB HD, how big should my linux partition be?

 

de.1337, check out these threads on my own partitioning journey.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=204507
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=214065

 

When I tried to dual boot xp and Ubuntu I have this annoying issue that XP overwrite MBR on every restart and I couldn't enter in Ubuntu. I had to use Super Grub Disk to fix it up. Can you tell me how to prevent this, coz I'm planning to give Ubuntu a chance..again

 

That's not a valid comparison, because there are a lot of problems with moving from Windows to Linux, almost none of which are present in moving from Ubuntu to Mint or vice versa.

 

de.1337, I'm thinking you're going to want delete the OS partition and the Recovery Partition, and then create an extended 11GB partition for Ubuntu, and an NTFS partition for XP/Media.

Then you'll want to create a 1GB partition formated as linux-swap and a 10GB partition formated as ext3 out of the extended partition.

Now, looking back at my threads, I think it's best to install Ubuntu after Windows, because I had to install Ubuntu again to overwrite the Windows MBR and use GRUB. So install XP on the big partition, and then (when you have Windowz squirming under your thumb ) run the LiveCD and choose the install option, and then you get to specify your ext3 partition and linux-swap partition, and you must set a mount point as '\', but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

In fact, when you're ready, I think I might install Gutsy along with you, and that way I can show you exactly what options to do in the installation; I'll remember when I see it.

 

Yes, we shall.

It was just to show how your comparison was invalid.

 

Except that there was nothing invalid about it.

 

It was totally invalid, you can't really compare one distro to another because they target a different audience and are made differently based on that.

 

But when you consider the Linux audience as a whole, Ubuntu has what the most people have wanted. Therefore, the distro that a person has the greatest chance of liking the most is Ubuntu.

 

I agree, that is why it should be included as a possible distro that the person might like, but should not be called superior to another.

 

You spammerz...

:laugh:

 

But it clearly IS considered the superior distro by more Linux users than any other distro.

 

Of course not, let me again show you the invalidity of your statement by using Windows as an example:

 

Ouch. Pegged the counter-example.