Thomas, you're on

IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!!

 

This thread delivers, it's like watching a good Drama unfold. Don't mind me, I'm just watching the show.

 

You know, before y'all go breaking your machines, you might consider searching the forums for posts by people who've done stuff like this before

Just sayin'... heh

 

Ok, I'm about to take the plunge. I just have to figure out the partitioning and then it's go. Anyone want to help me?

 

I'll help you, what IM protocol do you want to use?

 

Ok, thanks. MSN would be fine. My username is my email address, which you can find here.

 

I'd seriously recommend that both of you read my post I linked to above. It's exactly what you'll need to be doing.

 

Ok, well I read it. Sort of. And....?

 

Just to give you an idea about the steps you'll be going through and pitfalls that you can hit, as well as not needing to reinstall Windows because you can just copy it to the new drive in one shot as a single partition, and then install Linux afterwards. No need to backup and reinstall everything if you don't have to... Windows is enough of a pain in the arse as it is.

 

Ummm... I want to reinstall Windows. Thus the term "clean install." That's what I want.

 

Here are some of the barriers:

• People don't care
• People don't know about it
• People don't like change of any sort
• It's not popular/hip
• There are also some valid reasons, such as gaming

 

Those same barriers can be found when switching from one distro to another. Come up with some better reasons.

 

This again?

 

Yup, although it may have to end soon as i don't have too much time to argue because I'm learning how to program.

 

Oh, kewl! What language?
BTW, this Ubuntu stuff is getting annoying... someone one give me some encouragement! I'm tempted just to give it up for later (read: when we have broadband ). I think maybe I'll just wipe my hard drive, put a nice big NTFS partition in there for now, and reinstall Windows XP Home. And... if I decide to keep on trying with Ubuntu, I can just resize my partition. Sigh.

 

Having dialup complicates the process but it doesn't kill the whole thing off. If i had access to that computer physically i can assure you that you'd be running Linux just fine. I'm trying to just get teh hang of it, and will be using it to make linux better for me and others. I'll be coding apps that i find lackluster at the moment, basically doing what Linus did.

 

Ya I run linux fine, so you definetly will.

 

However, those barriers are significantly lower when switching from one distro to another, such that the majority market share of Ubuntu cannot be explained away in the same way the majority market share of Windows can be explained away. Moreover, if someone is using Linux, that means that they are open to new ideas.

 

Of course not, i could go sneak into your house and install Arch Linux Core, would you "be open" to it? Nope, i just erased all your data and installed a distro you don't want. Now you're just counting screws in a box of screwdrivers, and i forgot why we're even debating this anymore. Can we put this on hold and after i'm done learning how to program we can start back up around sometime in August?

 

quite true lol I managed to get dial up working after about 6 hours of altering system files (although this was with a very old ubuntu version ). Luckily I switched to broadband with a router! now connecting couldnt be easier

 

Yep.
So, this is the story. Today I used my GParted LiveCD to delete all partions. Created a 10 GB ext3 partition. Created about a 512 MB linux-swap partition. Created a NTFS partition with the rest of the space. Reinstalled XP. Installed drivers. And so on. And... I installed Ubuntu 7.10. Once I got the install working, it installed. However, GRUB doesn't seem to want to boot Ubuntu right. It boots XP Home fine. But.. when I select the regular Ubuntu boot from GRUB, it gives me a blank screen (I think it might flash some text first... I would have to check) and doesn't seem to be booting. That is assuming that it should give me a graphical boot indicator? Is this so? The HD seems to be being accessed, but... hmmm. Any idea?

 

That's a completely nonsensical response - sneaking into my house and installing Arch Linux? Breaking and entering another's house and installing a new Linux distro has nothing to do with this

Feel free to admit I'm right at any time and it'll be over

 

What was it you're right about, again? I wish you two would stop arguing...
Hey, and don't miss my last post in this thread. It contains important information. Thanks.

 

Try booting into recovery mode. Also, why aren't you using 8.04?

 

Never. <meowtext>

 

I tried recovery mode. It gave me a terminal. What do I do with that?
And I'm not using 8.04 because I think it could be a pain with my modem. We have dial-up, so...

 

That means the system's working fine, but X isn't. Using Hardy instead might help, but you never know. Why do you think you'll lose modem support with Hardy?

 

Well, I might be able to get the modem working in Hardy, I don't know. It has issues with sound, though (my modem in Hardy). I think the modem would be easier to handle with 7.10.
So... is there a way to start x from the terminal? I would like it to boot regularly, though... sigh.

 

Aha! Did a google search... and... here. It appears to be a Gutsy bug. So.... hopefully I can fix it now!

 

Code:

startx

(10 char)

 

I have a fix, wait a few minutes, at the least 5 minutes.
Check my Ubuntu guide, its in there.
Also, install Hardy, its better.

 

Alright. I got the problem fixed last night. I'm a dual-booter now! Unfortunately, I can't get my modem to connect to our ISP in Ubuntu... arg.

Thomas: if you can get my modem working guaranteed... maybe I'll switch to 8.04.

 

What makes you think your modem isn't working? Or is it just your dialup configuration? Because hardware support shouldn't have regressed with 8.04

 

Actually, it has regressed in some cases. Some less important drivers (such as those for dial-up) were removed from the live CD to make room for newer drivers.

 

Check out this. Anyway, my modem seems to be sort of working, at least using GnomePPP. It doesn't seem to be authenticating with our ISP, though...

 

Do you have a router? If you did, it'd be much easier to get a connection, since your ISP is sure to provide support.

 

He has dialup, he can't have a router.

 

Actually... you could have a router... but we don't. Yes, you can do dial-up on a wireless network: use one computer for Internet Connection Sharing and have it connected to a LAN... bingo. But, whatever...

 

I thought you couldn't, but that's LAN right? Not WLAN which is what i was referring to.

 

I think he means WLAN.

 

I don't see why you couldn't have a LAN behind a dial-up connection...don't routers support dial-up? You would just have to go to the router page each time to connect and disconnect, unless you wanted to run up charges for having a connection active 24/7.

 

Run up charges??? Eh?
Anyway, this is the scene now: I got dial-up working via command line on Sunday. So, I could connect via command line (using pon, create and configure connections with pppconfig ). I have Compiz Fusion runnung great, but my download speed in Ubuntu kinda sucks. But, I have my wireless working now, so when I have a chance I can get on and get that package manager sucking down megebytes. Oh, yeah, and I think I can get connected on dial-up with Gnome PPP, though it still shows it's authenticating... weirdness. If I cancel the dialog box, I suspect it would disconnect. Anyway.... yeah. There you go.

 

Word.

I'm going through the same process myself...

 

I'm gonna install Ubuntu this evening as well.

 

So, how do you like Ubuntu?

 

Ubuntu is nice, i was having some problems with Mint so i'm switching to the source.

 

I want to install Slackware at some point when I'm more familiar and good with Linux.

 

I want to install Arch Linux when i'm comfy with Linux.

 

Arch is pretty sick.