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Smart choice, it most likely won't work due to GPU incompatibility. As to heatsink...

 

[QUOTE = "James D, post: 10506303, member: 204774"] Escolha inteligente, provavelmente não funcionará devido à incompatibilidade de GPU. Quanto ao dissipador de calor ... [/ QUOTE]
Muito obrigado pelo apoio e atenção, vou ver se consigo um compatível, um gtx580m será compatível com o gt780r, ou vou precisar de uma fonte mais poderosa

 

570M, 580m, 670m, 775m are not recommended due to old nature and high risk of breaking.

 

Thank you so much, I'll be researching

 

Any one know if the GT780DX back cover for the monitor fits the GT780DXR?
They look the same, just different paint.

 

Hi Guys,

I've jumped to alienware 17 R4, so I've spare perfectly working (only touchpad changed to synaptics and still working average) gt 780 I5 (with optional wifi 7260 & samsung evo 840 and 16gb ram 2.6667Mhz) and BIOS tuning enabled.


PS.
I'm from Poland if that matter

 

Maybe one has lighting MSI logo and other doesn't but that is pure speculation. Those should be interchangeable.
@Tarnak It's impossible to put 2666MHz RAM into GT780. Anyway, you can create a topic in specific marketshop lunge of forum.

 

Thanks. Indeed I wrote wrong frequencies

 

Hi James! I`m back again after some time. I bought the m6000 on ebay and a week after that, my gtx570m suddenly came back to life. However, that was short lived, as it just died on me again.

Anyway, thank goodness I have the m6000 with me. I just want to make sure, is the heatsink modding is mandatoy? Is it easy to do? Can I use only 1mm thermal pads? I dont have an electricl dremel, I have only the tool below. Is it good enough?


Also, could you please explain what you meant here? I didn`t understand it very well.

Thanks again for your attention!

 

I used this tool. But only used hands taking away 0.05 mm per try or like that. Without hitting with a hummer on it, just cutting white part of heatsink because aluminum is weak.
I ment that you could put 1 pad on pad on pad on pad making it 4mm pad and use it where should have been heatsink contact. But I didn't do that and all was fine. Maybe because it's low-watt card.
0.5 mm pads and small copper shim are needed, sorry. With 1mm pads you could crack die. You could see that yourself matching card to heatsink with 1mm pads and see angle.

 

This tool

Spoiler

 

I think the tool I posted might be better for trimming the red and grey areas. For the yellow one, I might have to use this one you posted.

Where are these needed?

And, being a low-watt card and having an external table cooler below the notebook, are these still needed?

 

Yes, for the red parts you definitely need the tool you posted. Just trim 1-2 mm, not more.
0.5mm I bought from ebay, china. They are not good at all but if you don't overclock it much those may work.
Copper shim (I took one from broken AC I guess, just thin copper plate) will be on the copper part of heatsink to connect to GPU die. It is there if you look closer

Spoiler

 

i´ve just installed the amd m6000 on my ms-1761, it worked right out of the box, as said before. I followed James D instructions accordingly and everything went smooth!

one question, though, whats the average temperature for this gpu? im getting a constant 50 celsius on it. is that ok?

cpu goes around 48 C.

 

Those are fantastic temps...ENJOY!

 

Wow, well done.

 

hello! so, i've successfully installed the amd6000 on my gt780 (ms 1761)
below there are some pictures of the heatsink and the gpu itself, windows says it's a Dell gpu.

also, I bought the gpu from [ this seller] on ebay, took a while to get to Brazil (nearly 3 months), but it came working perfectly and the seller was kind enough to send me one without the x-bracket upon request.

EDIT: I just tried gaming, ran a game called Kenshi, it's incredibly heavy, developers still need to better tune it, point being it is very very heavy. I ran it for 30 min, temperature peaked at 82, but i had an average of 78 during it. a bit too high for my tastes, but i figure it's the cheap pads fault and maybe the thermal paste too.

EDIT # 2: boy this is becoming a tech soap opera! turns out the Kenshi game wasn't as heavy as I thoght, all the sluggishness and slowness were there simply because the game probably needs some extra tuning... I ran The Sims 4, just to be safe, a 2014 game so probably ok to start the test out.... Well, I had a 50 celsius on the gpu, as soons as I booted the game, it kept going up until the computer turned itself off... Last temp I saw as 89 celsius. I checked the Event Log, I see the once-familiar-with-my-dead-570m kernel power 41 error. I made sure to log the temps using Open Hardware Monitor, but the power failure didn't save the file properly.

i used thermal paste mx-2, as it was the one avaiable to me, and thermal pads 0.5 and 1 mm straight from china... i'm aware those aren't the best, but they worked ok, i'll try to get some better ones during black friday. this probably makes a huge difference, because i used to get around 42 celsius on the nvidia 570m.

huge thanks to James D again, very helpful and thoughtful guy, I wish i could send you a postcard of myself and my renewed gt780 doing a thumbs up!

 

Does everyone who's watching the thread get a notification alert for posts edited? I edited mine again, I need some help! If anyone has a tip or suggestion, please do share! I'm eager to get this laptop back to doing some light gaming without fearing it might collapse!

Thanks everyone!

 

my temps got 71-73 max under load so you definitely didn't make good contact with heatsink. Did you forget about additional copper shim 0.5 mm thick between the die and copper plate of the heatsink?
Also make sure heatsink is screwed in for good, meaning all 4 screws got into screwing holes.

This card is 48W max, it can't go hot without some error. I actually overclocked it 20%+

Watch closer to see it has 2 layers of thermal paste: one on the sides can be seen behind copper shim and second is ON copper shim.

 

Alright, screws 1 and 4 didn't go in at all, i cant figure out why. It was lined with the gpu but it didnt screw. Is there a tip for this?

 

If you have a copper shim then unscrew all screws together and then make ONE turn of every screw one by one. Also screw in in diagonals (cross).

 

Will try now.

 

ok. i didnt screw two of the screws in the proper way. on both number 1 and number four, i had to gently press the screwdriver down before turning.
it seems to be holding perfectly now. my average temperature now is 35 celcius... Yes. 35 celsius.

When I ran The Sims 4 it stayed around 63 celsius and after i turned the extra cooler on, temps decreased to around 57 celsius. huge improvement.
below is a temperature graph of the whole process.

sorry but thanks for the help again, James!

 

That's what I'm talking about!
Here I upload modded vBIOS for moderate overclocking. Flashing can be done through Windows but higher risk as OS might be not 100% stable. DOS is always safer. Anyways it is easy to recover it if bad flash happens but you have to have CH341A programmer with clip for ~4$ total I guess (from China). I had Dell card too so it should work but if you want you can dump here yourth with GPU-z so I would check.

 

What do I need the vbios for? Is it safer? Do I need it? Im sort of a noob, sorry for the questions.

Thanks!

Also, after the driver is installed I cant adjust screen brightness anymore, did this happen to you?

 

Ok I succesfully installed AMD M6000 on gt780dx with help of James D tutorial and pictures. Used copper shim 15mmx15mmx0,8mm and didnt screw very tight number 4 hole. I ran firestrike and had max temp 56 celsius. This was with no bottom cover and with extra cooling pad on the bottom. Will run again firestrike this time with turbo fan on and see the difference.

So on turbo fan max temp was 51 celsius. Clocks are all default. Very happy with the temps and 3dmark score because its higher than my old gpu gtx 570m had.

Did some overclocking.

Max stable 24/7 for this card is 975mhz/1350mhz. You can go a bit higher but we dont want to burn this card next month . This gave over 3100pts on firestrike with i7 2670qm. I am very happy with the card.

ps1. set voltage to 1.1v and now seems 1000/1350mhz to be stable for normal longterm usage. Firestrike went over 3200pts.
ps.2 it seems 1000mhz core is too much in heavy gaming. Now i try 990mhz with 1.1v.

Dont go over 1000mhz in core and 1350mhz in memory.

 

Any one know what the resistance between the the positive and negative terminals of the dc jack pins on the motherboard should be?
I'm after desoldering the the dc jack from the motherboard as smoke was coming out of the jack and want to check if there's a short on the motherboard.
Getting around 10 ohms.

Power brick is giving a constant 19.6 volts and looks OK.

 

I remember that guy who fixed shortage on motherboard nearby jack said it was too high and he wasn't sure it worked (it did though). I guess he said 2 digit figure like 10-12.
But I might be wrong.

 

I need your advice guys!
my old gt 570 is dead. I replaced it with another used gt 570, and its dead too (or it`s smth else that looks like GPU death). I was checking this thread for a while and found out that m6000 is pretty ok price/performance.
I recently received M6000 (blue one). Carefully moded heatsink, and screwed it not tight to avoid damage. However still no POST.
What could it be? I`m pretty tired with this one as each replacement part order takes about a month. moreover... I already lost 200$ with replacements, and local repair attempts.
Please advise.
Thank you.

 

Do you know if the motherboard is still good or not? Maybe it's not GPU? It's probably not worth it to have it repaired but if it's worth it for you then maybe have MSI do out of warranty inspection for you.

 

@micax @Kevin@GenTechPC i Good point. My first ever laptop was the GT683r (whitebook) and it worked pretty well, but I blew it up by shorting something out, which is how I got my current laptop now. If you have someone with electrical experience who would examine the traces and determine what died, someone may be able to solder on a new part for you. But they would have to specialize in this field. And if you don't know someone in real life who can do this, it's going to cost you money. Quite a bit. And you should not sink money into old hardware. The only old hardware worth sinking money to is the good old Alienware Socketed LGA Ranger laptop, since these laptops can be modded to take Pascal cards, and run better than any current Alienware BGAbooks.

The only person on this forum who is skilled enough to fix stuff like this is probably Khenglish and Meaker. And I don't know if Khenglish would be willing to do that for you. You could ask him but you'd probably have to pay him Repairing stuff is not easy work!

 

Unfortunately I have no more warranty, this laptop is about 4 years old.
I do agree with both of you guys! Unfortunately I`m in Russia, and there are not that many qualified services outside Moscow. This Laptop already was "repaired" in two local services, both of them were sure that it`s graphics card fault only and as they don`t have parts neither card nor chip to re-ball, they did not finish repairing. Unfortunately I do not have any friends with needed equipment to check Motherboard, moreover in local repair shops I was told that for that particular motherboard PCB schemes are not available, so even they wont be able to check it. So If you know anybody in Russia who is able to repair, It will be helpful.. Currently I will try a way to check GPU on another notebook, if I`ll find one. And lastly I will try one or two more local repair shops including Msi official, because as far as i know, it take ages to get repair from them.

Does anybody knows if it is possible to check MB without known-to-be-good GPU?

 

I haven't read all of your posts, but have you tried, or has someone recommended, connecting an external monitor to your laptop? If it works on the external monitor, then your GPU is fine.

 

@micax Agree with others, the best way is to test with a proofly working GPU from the same laptop.Where I live I have familiars who I helped with this (just texting with one, I tested for him and sold one of mine).
Otherwise it's walking in blackness without tech equipment or knowledge or friends. You don't have another laptop to test GPU too, I assume?
Is that GPU HP or Dell by the way? Both should be working if I recall correct but if you'd have USB programmer for 4$ you could have checked it and flashed with known working vBIOS for example.

There are few good people from forum-ru.msi like Thor and others but you should be in their city.
There is a guide about CH341A Programmer on that forum too by the way but you can buy it from China for cheaper if you are OK with waiting. Because you don't know if that gonna help.
No, no way to test MSI GT783 without a working GPU. It's not GT70.

 

In that message you linked Russian forum picture, can you please provide me a link to that thread?

I Already received a clip for soic-8 and CH341A is on it`s way from china. I`m going to check if bios reads backup it and will probably try your modified/overclocked bios, as it confirmed to work..
If you know anyone in Krasnodar, Russia who can help me, that would be great!

I think chances that I received a bad-bios M6000 are pretty slim, but I`m still going to try to re-flash it.

 

Nope, sorry. It's from classified for sale of this card. There isn't much info needed more. Just modded heatsink (can give more photos), careful screwing and GPU itself. You already know about flashing vBIOS so you know what to do.

 

That would be great if you can provide more pictures!
For now I`m just waiting for ch341 to arrive... will post after.
Thank you!

 

micax reset bios settings in your laptop to default, pull out cable near the fan for a minute.

 

Here you can compare BIOS version and serial number with your. + Instructions.
https://mega.nz/#!pUYARK7a!Fk5okPxaDO55h1gRIhk_3phTmD6YIuX6l6k9UW3ltSY

 

Thanks, but I tried it numbers of times ( no good. still no post.

Thank you it`s very helpful!
radiator modded in the same way, no missteps..
part number is exactly the same, serial numbers top right & middle left on the back of the card are different. (keep my fingers crossed that bios reflash will help). however 015.022.000.005.000000 (I assume bios) is same (

 

For google searches and other people who look for GPU for MSI GT783.
I had 2 M6000 and they both had these same numbers:
vBIOS v: 015.022.000.005.000000
Bar Code: 89T386-379005 OOA ECS
QR (1st raw): CN-O53Y5X-75093
Now, I don't know whether both Dell and HP GPUs will work but working BIOS for me was:
Vendor ID 1028 (Dell) , Subsys ID 053F, Device ID 1002-6825 Part Number 113-C42502A1-X21

 

Ok I have some small info.

On my gt780dx and overclocked m6000 I had about average 3150 points on firestrike. Somehow later it showed about 3300+points each time I ran it. Didnt know how I did it and what exactly I changed. Was playing with my win10x64 and score went back again on 3150. Didnt know again what made this change. So i reinstalled system, installed all missing drivers. Didnt install chipset driver. Still 3150. Ok installed XTU-Setup_3.2.0.24 made some cpu OC. Restart and still about 3150. Updated XTU to version 5.2.0.14 and YES score improved to about 3300+ points. Everything on amd 18.3.4. Now each time is 3300+. Didnt uninstall old xtu just updated it. This is about 5% improvement for free. If someone has free time can check if this is also working in other msi gt780dx laptops and maybe nvidia cards.

 

》780dx and overclocked m6000 I had about average 3150 points on firestrike. Somehow later it became 3300.

3dmark score is pointless. Tell if that was graphics score or physics score (detailed result) which made the difference.

 

Physics score doesnt make any difference. I changed cpu, got 1000pts physics score more and firestrike was the same. Graphics score is higher now. It went up after updating XTU. I can go close to 3400pts if I set core clock close to 1030mhz.

 

Hi guys, I'm back again. So, I got the same m6000 as lvl1989 and it didn't post It's just so demotivating. Now I'm back again trying to find some other solution. I'll give it one last try.

 

Hey guys! just received my ch341 programmer today - flashed GPU with overclocked bios from James - with no luck - still no POST.
attached is my copy of bios from GPU.
Can anybody with working m6000 confirm that this is correct bios?

it seems like either I got DOA m6000 or smth with MB. Does anybody knows where is MB bios chip located? I wanna try to backup/reflash it too... just in case...
however I do not belive anymore that I can restore this notebook

 

backuped vbios is similar to my original (everything the same) but checksum is different. 21st byte is different for example.
I can try backing up content of my BIOS chip on motherboard an share it, maybe that would work. But in few days. Maybe this will help, who knows.
As for now, try again flashing original from attachement and doublecheck it flashed properly.

 

flashed your genuine bios. then read->save - compared CRC - same.

installed GPU to laptop - still no POST (

If you can provide contents of MB bios - that will be great!
Thank you for your help!

 

Hey guys, i`m having another problem with my laptop. The issue is: the "fn" key seems to be "floating", most times it is "on" and sometimes it is "off".

I don't know exactly when it started. I`m thinking it has to do with some previous win10 update. I have tried many solutions found on internet, but to no avail.

Have any of you had that? Is there an easy solution to it?

 

Hi,

I have the GT780DX (MS-1761) and will be receiving the 980m 8GB official MSI card in a few days. I have some questions..

I understand that it is plug and play, but I already have the i7-2960XM CPU installed which has a TDP of 55w. The 980m draws 125w and the adapter that I have an 180W MSI adapter. That puts me at capacity for my current adapter and I know that there is a 230W version that was made for the GT72 - is this the better option?

Also, based on what I have read here in the forums I don't think that I will need to upgrade my BIOS, but I will update this post later tonight with the exact version that I am currently on. I believe that vBIOS should be fine given that it is an MSI card.

It's been awhile with scattered information since someone had a 980m to test on this model, if we can keep the conversation going I would be happy to answer any questions about it!

Thanks guys