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I very very hope that DXR will be less noisy than 780R!!! Then It will be the perfect choice for everyone else!!!!

Just a question, Can't US retailers provide TURKISH keyboard somehow? (They are just available in Turkey so it is about ordering only)

 

The point of all this is if you think someone is a liar you DO NOT call them out on it in an open forum period.

Ken's a liar ? fine message him and tell him he is lying instead of trying to make yourself look like some big shot because honestly it does nothing more then make you look like the whiny little brother who did not get his way.

I have known Ken for a LONG time personally and he is far from a liar so its pretty disgusting when i read that original OP .

The MSI GT780DX looks like a winner though .

 

Neither is running a smear campaign to defend the apparent quality issues on the keyboard fanboy! Not to mention you jumping up and down with MSI and GenTech PomPoms. Recovery always begins with recognition and admission. Say it with me 3 times: "I am a fanboy who will defend MSI and Gentech. And I will recover" (do it 3 times)

 

Really? I saw 2 of them in action, and thought it was pretty good for gaming laptop. My old gateway is a screamer, and I was quiet impressed with the fan noise on 780R. But if MSI can even improve upon that, it would be impressive. I can't wait!!!

 

How is the gaming performance on the model with the 560M? What can we expect with the 570M in terms of performance with current games?

Also, is there a date for when the 570M is gonna be out?

 

I know, I just want my ideal laptop too. Fanboy action here is just comical at best. This fanboy even contacted the admins and asked them to shutdown a thread I had started regarding a potential keyboard typing / lighting workaround. Power of loyalty / pride towards what they've bought or will buy is a powerful thing, but come on! This is ridiculous!

 

hey btw i havent seen the benchmarks for 560m overclocked 100% with msi afterburner like ken did for 570m

 

and for those having keyboard flex issues / keyboard not attached properly ,


ive used the paste (used to stick the wood) to attach the borders of the keyboard properly to the surface , the good thing about the paste is that its not permanent and you can open the keyboard anytime, flex is decreased around 80%

 

I thought they were just testing the keyboards more to rout out the bad ones.

 

GT780R-012US comes with two hard drives in RAID0.

Having previously experienced the feeling of a SSD, I decided to immediately replace the Seagate Momentus (500 GB) connected to SATA0 with a
Crucial C300 (128 GB). This of course required to break the RAID volume in order to run plain AHCI, and this in turn leads to reinstalling the operating system.
Also, I prefer to have a fresh Windows install to start with, being the kind of guy which does not like bloatware.

I found that the hard drive located near the battery pack is the one connected to SATA0, see attached images.

I grabbed the Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit setup DVD and started the usual installation procedure, only to find 30 minutes later that Windows was very unstable, to the point that it crashed with a BSOD almost immediately after the bootstrap.

I suspected the culprit could be some missing driver, perhaps the Intel Rapid Technology or the Intel Chipset. Since laptops do not have floppy drives, you cannot use F6 while installing to let Windows use a third party driver. Therefore I resorted to "slipstreaming", a procedure by which the drivers are included in the installation disk.
With the help of RT Se7en Lite I was able to include all of the drivers listed on the MSI web site, then the installation went fine and now Windows is running beautifully.

 

I just pre-ordered the GT780DXR from Amazon but there is nothing about when it comes out... I didn't see anything on MSI's site either. Anyone have any word on when it comes out?

 

Any one using the 280.26 drivers? I'm getting all sorts of tearing and blotches all over the place, even on the desktop.

Homer

 

Hey, I'm somewhat new to pc gaming. Other than Guild Wars, the last game I played for any significant amount of time on pc was Baldur's Gate II.

I pre-ordered the 780DXR specifically for Witcher 2, Battlefield 3, Rage, & Guild Wars 2... selling my PS3 & 360 to help finance it . My question is, should the 570m provide enough of a boost over the 560m to play those games max'd out???

I saw the benchmark's for the 560m & the 580m, but couldn't find any for the 570m... which I'm guessing falls somewhere in between.

Benchmarks for the 560m looked decent, but the games were a little older... maybe a better question is whether the gt780R has been able to handle Withcer 2 max'd out at 30+ fps???

I've been told I should shop for a desktop if I want to max out newer games w/o drops in frame rate... but a laptop is really more convenient for school.

 

Id say Witcher 2 is going to be the only thing you wont be able to turn every single option on IE uber sampling which is not really needed but yeah the 570 should handle just about every title maxed out for the most part ( also depends on what type of framerate you want to have IE is 30fps enough or is 60fps what you want all the time etc. ).

Battlefield 3 is also to early to tell but it should run it just fine .

The 570 based on the benchmarks i have seen is a monster and a NICE step up from the 560 without a doubt.

Looking forward to seeing some game benchmarks etc.

 

, all videos uploaded on our youtube channel are made by me.

I can test again.

Because I didn't see your post. no I don't see more fan activity with 570M.

Nope there is no vender arguments here, I was away for two days, see me argue with anyone? I am not going to lower myself to that level.

Agree, should be back to the topic about GT780/DXR, don't let someone destroy this thread, whoever is dong it is not welcome here, by attacking other doesn't make one look any better, like Striker said, reduced level.

DXR doesn't make more noise than 780R at all, I can't tell the difference.

Here is the 560M gaming performance video I made a while back:

Bad Company 2 on MSI GT683R, nVidia GTX560M medium and advance settings - YouTube

Crysis 2 on MSI GT683R, nVIdia GTX560M - YouTube

Dirt 2 Benchmark on MSI GT683R, nVidia GTX560M - YouTube

Metro 2033 on MSI GT683R, nVidia GTX560M - YouTube

And here is 570M

Bad Company 2 on MSI GT683DXR with nVidia GTX570M overclocked! - YouTube

Crysis 2 on MSI GT683DXR with nVidia GTX570M overclocked! - YouTube

Here is the vBIOS backup from the 570M:

http://gentechpcforums.com/Images/MSI/1210.bin

 

Checkmate

 

Having issues with the SD card slot
It reads fine, but can't write
also it corrupted one of my cards
I've tried reinstalling the msi drivers and no luck

can it be faulty hardware?

I'm already considering RMA it because of the faint horizontal lines on the display.

 

Mmmm, Im wondering the same! Is there a big difference between the gtx560m and the gtx570m?

Cuz I want to buy the 560 version but dont know if 570 worth the waiting time

 

Yes it is certainly worth the wait at this point.

The performance difference is pretty substantial without a doubt so unless you have to get something ASAP i would hold off .

 

Yes I´ve been reading that there's a big difference between the 560 and the 570 but is there any bench to confirm that?

 

There are a couple benchmarks in this thread for the 570m plus there are few machines out in the wild as well with 570s, so we should be seeing quite abit very soon.

 

mmmm, lets wait some days ^^

 

Look here 570M with default drivers(proper verde drivers are yet to be released) at base clock rate.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi...r-gt780dxr-owners-lounge-190.html#post7808504
GPU Score 10159
Look Here 560M oveclocked with proper verde drivers:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi...r-gt780dxr-owners-lounge-190.html#post7808511
GPU score 8397

AND 570M overclocked with default drivers.
GPU Score 13177

Huge difference. It is worth waiting a while.

Cheers

 

This does NOT work, BTW. This either removes it from the system tray OR ends the program. It does NOT remove the icon from the DESKTOP.

 

If Ken posted in a public forum something that was not true (that he made the videos) then Donald or anyone else is right to post the correction in the same forum.

pretty common sense.

 

Blah. Wasn't I reading something several pages back about a BIOS update? I was really hoping MSI was going to fix this issue.

 

What would be the basic performance difference between the GTX 570m and a 485m? It sounds like the 485m would have the upper hand but I wonder by how much?

 

Look at the numbers reported here earlier and do the calculations based on 485M nos reported elsewhere.

 

GPU Vantage Scores
GTX 560M (8397)
GTX 570M (11059)
HD 6970M (11501)
GTX 485M (12208)
GTX 580M (13234)

 

Sorry, n00b here... I tried searching this thread. Any link to procedure I will need to overclock the 570m?

 

Meh, too lazy.

Thank you!!!

 

Remember that GTX 570M score was made with psyhx on, but I think score with "psyhx off" will be very similar.

 

Posting a correction is one thing but he flat out calls him a liar . How is that any way to handle business if you are a reseller ?.

Forum members are one thing but these are people conducting business and should have a bit more class on a forum where they are hoping to keep conducting business.

To me that would be "pretty common sense".

 

Very interesting comparison... note the 570m is still without a release driver as well. (usually adds ~10%)

I assume those are all stock...

 

FWIW, I got my 683DXR today. I modified the 275.50's so I could install them versus the driver that came stock (268 something). While I haven't been able to get a stable overclock as high as the one in Ken's video, ( I settled on 700/1400/1800) I was able to get 12,430 in Vantage. Switching from the stock driver to the modified 275.50's got me a 100 point increase.

Still playing with it to see what I can get out of it.

 

So... he's modding 275.50 and moving OC sliders to get roughly stock 485M performance...
Not too shabby IMHO.

How's the heat Keith?

 

The heat's not too bad. When I ran Vantage with the OC, the GPU topped out at 78C. I did put in a i7 2720 versus the stock CPU, so I don't know if that would have any effect on the temps.

Edit: Just ran 3D Mark 11 and got a score of 3323 with the 275.50 drivers. GPU temp topped out at 81C with the 700/1400/1800 overclock.

 

Think that tears it then... 570m and 6970m are roughly equal. It will be interesting to see the final OC results especially when there are optimized release drivers for the 570m.

It doesn't matter really which card ends up the better one... we all win due to solid competition on both sides of the fence.

 

That is something to be worried about. I wouldn´t recommend taking too much risk. Maybe you should try with a laptop cooler for the sake of testing else no go.
Anyway you exceeded GTX 485M.
By the way Congrats for the new Gadget. I guess you will be busy for a while

 

I'm not worried about a 81C reading on the GPU. That temperature reading was without the turbo fan on or my laptop cooler fan on.

Yes, I am going to be busy playing with my new toy.

 

Mmmm, it looks that the gtx570m will be equal or better than the 6970 once new drivers came out

 

Pd: congrats Keith for your new toy, hope you enjoy it ^^

 

CONGRATz Keith1341, Enjoy!

Would you consider starting a GT683R/GT683DXR Owner's Lounge thread? No on has done this yet, and it would be helpful to the community.

Thanks!

 

Just use MSI Afterburner software:

http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/images/MSIAfterburnerSetup210.zip

This time I overclock a little bit but with PhysX off:

 

Ken the results are amazing. It can beat AMD 6970 easily.
Any comments on heat generation? I am eager to know.

 

+1 its clearly seen that the gtx570m will/beat the 6970

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2720QM Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F2 score: P11307 3DMarks

I am sure the difference will be greater in 11.

Also an overclocked 6970 can get up to 15k GPU score.

 

Done

10 char

 

Thanks, preciate the help!

 

Ken, you say PhysX is off, but the screenshot shows it checked