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I haven't had my MSI GT780DXR-099 for long, but the stock wireless card seems fine for my usage. I've downloaded a bunch of steam games and played some online too and it works fine. No regrets so far.

 

very nice support group for gt780dxr

 

I agree that normal internet usage is fine with the basic card. I do a lot of file transfers from my laptop to a NAS device for video editing and such and the card that comes with the 780DXR is just slower than what I can get with a 3x3 MIMO card like the Bigfoot. I would have thought MSI would have at least put a dual band card in this beast. Other than the wifi card, I am completely loving the laptop. The screen is fantastic. The sound is great. Lots of power and RAM.

 

Congrats's on the soon to be new arrival. Sorry to hear about the eviction.... from the "Cave".

To a degree the wireless card depends on your router. If you currently have just your typical "G" wireless router then the standard card will be fine. If you have or plan to have a router with the 5ghz band the standard card will not receive that signal. If you go with a 3 antenna card your router will need to provide the extra channels or you will see no benefit. I have read where in some cases with the laptop having 3 antenna and the router less caused interference issues. Some have stated it helped them get a better signal. So it is a toss up.

If you plan to ever upgrade you router to one with 5ghz and you have the money upgrade your laptop wireless to something that can receive the signal. Like the Intel 6230 Wireless-N + Bluetooth. Keep in mind if you have a long distance between system and router or numerous walls 5ghz may not be worth the router upgrade.

 

I loaded the GT780 in the MSI backpack into the baggage compartment of a bus and the stitches under the zipper pulled out, so the bag didn't survive the first use on public transport.
A friend loaned me a 17" Targus and I hope to get something from JB HiFi.

 

Welcome to the forum.

8GB of RMA is enough for 99% of programs. unless you are a programmer and using multiple virtual OS for program simulation. each Virtual OS can take about 2GB of RAM. so if you don't use virtual OS 8GB should be more than enough.

1: Custom configuration takes about 3~7 days depends on the upgrades you have. with 3 antenna mod it might take 5 days.

2: Ground shipping take about 4 business days so if you order it this weekend you should have no problem receive it by September 15th.

3: Bigfoot 1103 is known to be better than Intel 6300 especially gaming with multi player online.


4: Here is the comparison chart you can take a look:


Killer? Wireless-N Performance

Ken

 

I think having extra few Gigs of RAM is not going to cost you much money atleast with the default RAM (1333 one). Go for it and you will not repent. Besides during course duration you will indulge yourself in filthy business of running Virtual machines, Compiling codes etc etc Just like others. You are more than okay now with 8GB RAM. Maybe 1 years down the line it could be minimum needed for your requirement. I think Intel 6230 is good enough for playing multiple HD streams over net. Besides you can use Bluetooth to play music while you are sleeping via A2DP or lease likely synch your bluetooth devices. Bigfoot is needed to gain that extra latency which is not of any benifit (My personal opinion). I always switch back to Gigabit ethernet when I feel my wireless connection is a bottleneck.
If you are not going for 3rd Antenna mod then I am quite sure pinging Ken will help in getting your Laptop much before time.
Cheers

 

i come from the netherlands i had bought here a gt 780-235nl notebook

on the box was written 16 gig ram upgrade but it wont work because the core i 5 only accept 8 gig ram i found out on the intelsite.a littelbit faillure from msi or mayby you no a solution


sorry for the bad writting

 

the intel site is misleading.

If the motherboard has 4 ram slots, then you can use 16gb. Intel also says the i7-2630QM only supports 8gb and this is not true. Don't worry about what intel says, 16gb is ok.

 

If you use more than 8GB of RAM then the laptop will start using the RAM in single channel mode instead of dual channel.

 

Hi Folks.... I'm Back!

Sadly, I have nothing to report on the GT780DXR, and it still sits awaiting my review. Almost immediately after it's delivery, a developing and escalating family emergency, forced me into last minute cross-country air travel. I must say..... air travel has become a greatly improved and pleasurable experience. NOT!

I returned yesterday evening, only to crash into a deep slumber, after two days of stress and very little sleep. Fond memories still reside of TSA's enhanced security measures, and the wonderful feel-n'-gropes I received. Woo Hoo!

Anyhow, I am presently having my morning Cup O' Joe, trying to fend off brain-fog, bad sinus, and clear my ears. Later today if I have time, I will attempt to enjoy the notebook, and report back to the forum. I am happy to see a revived interest here, and it's nice to see others are already enjoying this new model.

Best Regards to All!

 

so can you explain then why my laptop wont start whit 16 gig ram in t

the screen stays black ore i must change something in the bios


greets plexter

 

If the machine wont start stock from the factory it's DOA.

 

Hello,

I bought a MSI GT780R a couple of days ago. Everything is fine, except that on idle, there's this slight wavy uneven fan sound. It goes slightly up and down at all times. Is this normal? Are there ways to address is?

 

Um, no. If you have 4 x 4gb you have dual channel in slots 1 and 3, and dual channel in slots 2 and 4.

 

Some things are more important than computers. Family comes first.

 

i mean when i take the 2 ram sticks under the keybord out it works laptop starts


you know what i mean greets plexter

 

Then you have bad ram or bad slots on the mobo. Put them back in and RMA the notebook.

 

Thanks to Ken and Fourier for your recommendations! I will definitely add more RAM, as I will be programming throughout my five years at Drexel and I think I'll be fine with the default wireless card or the 6230 as Fourier recommended. I hope to order this beast either today or tomorrow but my family is dealing with the aftermath of Irene (flooded basement) so I don't know. Once again I appreciate your help guys and I can't wait to use this monster !!

 

about the resellers I think I'll go with Gentech. appear to be quite serious. I really like this laptop, and the more complete model satisfies me completely by its performance
I really want a powerful and reliable laptop. and not repeat the disastrous experience I had with the ASUS G73JW-A1 which was turned off or blocked with a BSOD for almost any game ... that laptop is the worst in history, I would not live the same with this MSI

 

You are welcome. First take care of Irene . I hope that was not too bad. Wise decision with 16 GB RAM. 6230 will be faster then default wireless including the range. That´s for sure. The only reason I recommend 6230 over 6300 is because of Bluetooth. I personally am using 6230 but I asked ken to put a 3rd wireless mod for any future upgrade. In your case it might take more time (upto 5 days as Ken told you). If that is feasible then get 3rd antenna mod but stick to 6230. You can always upgrade wireless card + CPU in future.
Cheers

 

Sure this is the charming beast which you can get without any hesitation in terms of performance and build quality. There have been minor issues in past but looking at the customer base it is quite insignificant. Resellers here are keen to help customers in any way they can. I am happy that you are also opting Gentech just like me. Ken helped me a lot during the order. I first ordered GT780 and then while my order was under process I decided to get GT780DXR without any issues.

Cheers

 

when you say "There have been minor issues in past but looking at the customer base it is quite insignificant." what do mean exactly

 

Probably keyboard and touchpad issues.

 

Thanks for your concern Fourier, it was minimal damage (only the carpet was ruined; good thing we put all of the furniture on 2X4's beforehand ). Yeah I figured 16 GB might be overkill but you never know so I'm going with it just to be safe. And I don't want to add 5 days to build time so I'll stick with the stock 6230.

 

those "minor issues" are already fixed or still having problems

 

The keyboard on my 780DXR is fantastic. Feels very solid. The lighting is also great, Even lighting across the entire keyboard. Definitely the best laptop keyboard I have ever typed on. Actually one of the nicest keyboards period. The trackpad seems fine, although in day to day use I have a wireless mouse that I use. This is one fantastic laptop.

 

Has anyone had any experience unexpected closures or lockups? sorry but I am traumatized by the ASUS G73JW

 

When will we get some videos guys? Still waiting for some benchmarking videos, video game benchmarks, etc, etc.

 

new bios and EC firmware available on msi site
new ec firmware sets kb led to off instead of white

 

Coming from the G73 also .

No, none.

 

LOL! Smart move, it'll probably reduce the keyboard lighting related RMAs to 50% at least!

 

Not yet, mine has been very stable even with OC on the GPU. I'll post if anything happens but no problems so far. I don't think you'll be remiss if you purchase this notebook. Build is very solid too.

 

Well, I never quite made it to order the laptop. I went to powernotebooks.com and built a Sager NP8170 with specs that suit me a lot better for about the same price, so I guess I won't get to post in this forum any more

Thanks for the replies, all =)

-Immaridel

 

Glad you found your system. It is your system needs, your money and your decisions. That is why there are so many companies selling systems.... so we can find just the right one.

Thanks for stopping by... enjoy that new system.

 

Sorry to hear that about your bag. Do you know what the name of the bag was?

The case I have can be found here:

18.4" Laptop Bags | Everki

They are not cheap but they appear to be well made.

 

I look forward to a full review of the model MSI GT780DXR-099US like the other reviews that have made the site on other laptop models

I have to say on the bag that looks great but I wonder if it will fit a wireless keyboard 18.4 "long plus the MSI GT780 ... I was also watching from Targus model ... http://www.targus.com/us/productdetail.aspx?sku=TCG216US

 

Sorry to hear it. Hope things work themselves out.

That new system will patiently wait there until time allows. But once that time comes ..... no excuses ....... get to gettin'.

Welcome back.

 

It should fit the keyboard depending on how thick the keyboard is. When I get a chance I will try a low profile Logitech that I have. It is wired but will give us something to go on.

 

So I've been debating what type of hard drives I should get and I decided that I might want an SSD with a large HDD for storage. My two choices are the Crucial M4 128 GB or the Intel-320 160 GB. Would there be plenty of space on the Crucial if I were to use it as an OS drive as well as to install games on it, plus the increased speed or would I be better off going with more space and supposedly better reliability with the Intel?

 

I have 128gb for windows and programs. I installed all my games on the storage drive and in reality I do not notice any difference with them there vs the ssd.

 

Guessing you meant Single channel for 2 of the 4 slots ?

 

Done..... Thanks for the recommendation!

 

I got the EVERKI Beacon 18" laptop backpack, it's an awesome bag, can fit tons of stuff

 

I guess GT780DXR is same as Gt780R except the GPU 560M vs 570M and 180W power brick. I also assume that there is more QA involved with the Keyboard now then earlier. In all it is a well built machine. I am coming from Alienware M17. I recently saw one R3 release and I can say it is plastiky. Comparing to that MSI GT 780DXR ones have better build quality. Default screen is much better than Alienware.

Making a decision is your own choice.

Cheers

 

You will get dual channel if you follow these way of populating the slots:
1) Dual channel if all the slots are populated with alternate slots conatining same memory type.

2) Dual channel if alternate slots are populated with similar memory modules.

3) That means you may install varying memory sizes in Channel A and Channel B. The system maps the total size of the lower-sized channel for the dual-channel configuration. Any excess memory from the higher-sized channel will then be mapped for single-channel operation only. Say for example you are mixing 4 and 2 GB modules then 2GB will be Dual channel while rest 2GB will be single channel.

By the way make sure to install memory modules with same CAS latencies from the same vendor.
Cheers

 

I read that the i7 2630qm CPU only has enough bandwidth to support 8GB of RAM in dual channel, anything after that is run in single channel.

Does the laptop perform single channel & dual channel operations at the same time or just 1 mode depending on your memory usage?

 

8 GB max is actually 8GB per core. The bandwidth difference is due to DDR3 1333 support vs DDR3 1600.
DDR3 - 1333 @ 666.67 MHz and cycle time of 6 transfers 1333.33 MT/sec = 10666.67 MBps(Max)
For two channels the MBps is 2X10666.67 = 21.3 GBps(Intel advertised Max Bandwidth for I7 2630 QM)

Simialrly for DDR3 -1600
@800.00 MHz and cycle time of 5 transfers 1600.00 MT/sec = 12800.00 MBps(Max)
For two channels the MBps is 2X12800.00 = 25.6 GBps(Intel advertised Max Bandwidth for I7 2720 QM onwards).
As per my explanation earlier if you have both the slots populated you will get dual channel at all times.
This 8GB vs 16GB is misleading and is for each core.
That doesn't mean you should expect that 8GB X 4 means 32 GB is what you can use in your laptop. It is further limited by Motherboard manufactures.
Cheers

 

So the Netherlands version came with i5 CPU. yes the Intel core i5 can only support up to 8GB of RAM unless you upgrade the CPU to core i7.

Welcome back Striker and wish to hear your feedback soon.

It's normal and because of the BIOS thermal policy controls the fan.

You are welcome.

No lockup issues has been reported.

Here is the game video and benchmarks:

MSI GT780DXR NV GTX570M and Bad Company 2 GPU overclocked - YouTube

 

Which model did you purchase? Is there plenty of room for accessories? Lastly, where are the bags actually made?

I think I'd rather go with one of the bags rather than the backpack but I do carry extra accessories and some paperwork.