*** MSI 16L13 (Eurocom Tornado F5)/EVOC 16L-G-1080 15.6" Owner's Lounge ***

Prettttttyyyyy

 

bezel cam eoff in about 5 seconds of using my micro plastic crowbar

 

Great news if you are staying with the same connector!

 

new screen in place no issues at all, this is like a 2 minute job when you know what your doing.

 

yes, it was a small 30 pin...here, like this :

 

Now up and running..

 

What are the specs on yours? I'll take silence over extra heat any day as long as that heat is within spec. That's the reason I'm planning on this unit, I couldn't care less about oc.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P

 

3D eh? Not as familiar with high refresh panels, is it common for it to say 3d at 120Hz? How does it look to your eyes compared to the stock 1080P panel, I know it is TN but I mean straight on.

 

Well, the bios for this laptop, this one in particular doesn't support the panel properly, so I showed that it thinks it's 3D - which i suppose makes sense since that means the videocard has direct access to the panel through the eDP connection. This panel specifically is only officially released today, the 20th of January, by AUO, and g-Sync support for it has to come afterwards. I give it a week. I bet it's simple.

I have no experience seeing that option either, so me and you both are new to this option being present. If there is a difference between 3D and G-Sync display panel, it could be this is the wrong panel, however I was very explicit in my order and information.

 

I'll post on the forum once I get more news about how the change went, so you'll know if it works or not. I don't know how long the shipping will take, so it might take a week or two before Woodzstack knows.

Yeah, I know it's not the exact same piece of software. I just meant, there is also a Linux project for controlling SteelSeries keyboards. But I'm interested in your port of the official software. When you do it, if you want to share the differences with us, maybe we could use that to make it work with Linux too. But yeah, if my keyboard's backlight doesn't work to start with, I might not be able to test it myself.

 

It has a 6700k processor and a 1070 gpu. 7700k may run cooler, not sure though.


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It's also just a guess from my part, but I read on an other forum (searching on Google) that an other MSI laptop had a 40 pin connector on the motherboard, the screen had a 30 pin connector, and they simply had a 30 pin cable going between the two.

Also, I quickly looked everywhere on Eurocom's site, and there's no mention anywhere that the Samsung 4K panel is a 30 pin panel, while everywhere else it says it's a 40pin panel. I searched to see if there were 30 pin versions of the Samsung panel, but only a few results in Russian came back. So I think that Eurocom is using a 40 pin panel.

 

Damnit! I wanted that panel. Now I'm going to have to wait. Please keep us updated.

 

I completely agree bud. I should have my unit within a week or so and If I remember correctly, we both have a very similar (low) tolerance for noisy laptops. I'll be trying a variety of CPUs with a GTX 1070. I purposefully do not want a 1080 because of the noise. In fact, I may try a 1060 as well to see if it is sufficient for my needs.

 

It's a 30 pin eDP. I showed some pictures of the connector, and the 120hz screen above, if you scroll up a bit. Is this what you wanted to know ?

 

Sure, if you keep me updated on those crazy scores, hahah

 

It is actually the opposite at this point, the 7700K is running a bit hotter compared to the 6700K at the same speed. Obviously, the 7700K can hit 5.0+ much easier but you do have to take the increased heat into consideration.

 

Is it the same on their 4K monitors, tho?

 

Could just be a mistake.

 

They would have to replace more then just the panel if it is. How about this, soon as I get someone who allows me to open up thier display and it's 4K I will share the results.

 

Watch and see Mr. Fox and his F5 destroy me. I'm still adjusting my OC skills for laptops. It really is a totally different world, as I have to take into so many variables versus my DT's.

 

I'm even considering the 6700T just to reduce heat. It's probably going to make closer to zero difference in games.

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Well, after all the delids I did, they are constantly 20-25C cooler. They do not thermally throttle no matter what I do. If you put the fans on silent, they get as high as 90C or so under gaming loads like BF1 on Ultra... but otherwise are fine in the 65-70C range at worst case when fans are on manually full blast. This is at 4.5Ghz all 4 cores, hyperthreading, and 1.35v

 

Actually a 6600k would be totally fine for gaming and with pretty low temps too. Your choice although I chose the 6700k for future proofing. I took off hyper threading to reduce temps for and also run with an undervolt. Runs great too in games right now. Later on if I need extra performance, I can turn on ht, and even overclock if I need too.


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Yeah, I would agree a 6600k would be plenty for gaming. Plus, since it isn't BGA, you do always have those options to upgrade later.

 

My Tornado F5 with I7 7700K with GTX 1080 its shipped to Spain

 

and for that +5 rep !! congratz !

 

Mine is 4K already! So you'll get to open mine.

 

Yeah I am really thinking the dual purpose connector on the motherboard is correct. It is the only way I can think of it working...

 

You wouldn't mind me sharing this info with people ?

 

Not at all! I want the information to be available to anyone looking for it.

 

well let me know when it's shipped, and I will take it from there.

 

Certainly. I'll be headed to the post office in less then 20 minutes.

Edit: you'll receive the laptop in about a week!

 

nice !

 

Question for users of this notebook, I have a Eurocom Tornado F5 for review purposes, and I'm wondering how to get the keyboard to light up. There doesn't appear to be any software installed that controls this. If it's something on the drivers page on Eurocom's site then I have to say it isn't obvious to me what to download. Anyone know what I have to do/install for the backlighting to work?

Charles

 

Welcome bro. It's KLM or Hot Keys on the download page. If you received a USB key, it will be in the folder labeled Hot Keys. You can also use MSI's Dragon Control to control the lighting.

 

Ah excellent, it was the Hotkeys download and then the KLM folder. Thanks.

Eurocom hooked us up with an F5 that has: FHD display, Core i7-7700K, GTX 1080, 32GB DDR4-2400 (2x 16GB), 1TB RAID 0 SSD, 1TB HDD.
I cannot believe there is so much power packed inside a 15.6-inch notebook, let alone one this light.

Charles

 

reset the cmos, by holding down the button in the pin hole near the m.2 while powering on/off, then the top left buttons on the keyboard face have a "sun"dial like button to switch between 3 modes for the Keyboard Jeff.

 

Anyone know how to update the Bios on this laptop. I received the new Bios from Eurocom to run a 7700k and I cant figure out how to update the Bios.

The Eurocom instructions was completely wrong and they aren't open on the weekend for phone support.

 

If they are anything like Clevo's, you need to create a bootable USB drive. Download and install Rufus to create one. What kind of files did they give you?

EDIT: MSI also has a tool to create bootable USB drives to install BIOS.

 

Installing the bios is different on this MSI laptop...

get your bios on http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=108079.msg800577#msg800577

then run update, should be option 2...

something like that.

 

This is what they gave me. I pressed the F7 and nothing happens. I already did everything besides the UEFI thing. I cant seem to turn it off.

Here are the instructions

Save the attached file, and rename it from .zif to .zip

Please download Rufus and use it to make a bootable USB drive: https://rufus.akeo.ie/

After that is created make a folder on the usb drive named bios and extract the .zip file to it.

Make sure you disable UEFI in BIOS before flashing.

To Flash the Bios

1. Make sure AC Adapter is plugged in.

2. Press F7 for the boot menu, boot from usb drive

3. Change directory to bios (CD bios)

4. Run flash.bat in DOS mode, and it will auto restart.

5. Replug AC Adapter one times, make sure you re-enable RAID / UEFI if required.

 

Trying to read through 260 pages of posts is taking time - i am up to page 75, but hours and hours disappearing.

So if you would be so kind to give me your opinion. I thank you in advance!

I am not a gamer per se, use to play games back in the day but grey now lol.

I am looking for a laptop to encode Blu Rays down to H.264 MKV's - plus the usual day to day stuff - email, browsing, spreadsheets etc etc.

I need a Kaby Lake CPU because i want to use the latest version of Quick Sync to encode with. I also would like a discrete Pascal card so i can use the GPU for encoding as well - as time goes on H.265 will take over and a GPU for that purpose is ideal.

So.....can i use the iGPU on the CPU (Quick Sync) as well as the GPU for encoding - switching back and forth as i need too, on this laptop? Or is the iGPU (and thus Quick Sync) locked away from use because of the onboard discrete GPU?

Lastly, i am trying to decide between this unit discussed in this thread and the new Dell Inspiron 15 7000 - which is 15" 1080P (or a 4K option - but is 4K really needed yet/. and worried 4K on a 15 inch screen - WIN 10 does scaling but.....), i7700HQ, up to 32GB RAM and takes 2 drive - 1 x M2, 1 x 2.5" and has NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050Ti with 4GB GDDR5.

Now i get this Dell laptop is not as powerful as the MSI here, but the Dell is 1099, this MSI fitted out looks to be around 2K USD.

The MSI gives me up to 64GB RAM (with some pain), 2 x M2, 1 x 2.5" , a full 7700K CPU and a big thing to me, a TB3 /USB3.1 (is this Gen1 or Gen 2 USB 3.1? - guessing GEN 2 since it is also TB3 ??)

The 64GB or RAM is nice because i can make a large RAM drive to write out encoded video files (to save writes to the NVMe M2 card) - so thats something over the DELL. T

That TB3 port in enticing - any specs on that or any issues with the TB3 on this MSI laptop (maybe its some hundred pages ahead of where i am in the thread at the moment lol)

So my choice is this MSI or the Dell - big decider will be if i can use iGPU QuickSync or not.

Thoughts?

 

According to woodzstack this laptop does not use the iGPU at all. I think It is simply not usable : for example if you were to assemble the laptop from the bare bone MS16L3 but get the dedicated GPU later there would not be any video signal. The motherboard does not allow it.
That is unfortunate for you because I too think BGA is bad. But since I don't own it yet? I can't say that I am 100% sure.

 

well thanks for the reply anyway.

I guess woodzstack may have the answer - only a matter of time till he replies - he has been active from the beginning of this thread - its taking all day to read and i am not even half way through lol

 

but then again, i am reading that Gsync can be disabled , so maybe it is possible to turnoff Gsync and use Qucik Sync on the CPU ?

 

I don't have any Gsync enabled laptop so I don't know. Regardless of the Gsync I think it is a lock on the motherboard and has nothing to do with Gsync technology : even if you disable it will only use dedicated GPU. Someone correct me if I am wrong?

 

What was your experience with cyberprower? I throw them mails but never receive any answer...

 

The Intel gpu is disabled. Disabling gsync will only fix the refresh rate of your monitor to a static value. There is nothing you can do to use quick sync on this machine.

You may consider a GT73VR or other laptop with a switchable mux to force use of the intel GPU after a restart.