MSI GE63VR / GE73VR Raider Laptops

Where are you guys ordering yours from? The GE63VR from HIDevolution seems like a great deal http://www.hidevolution.com/msi-ge63vr-raider-075-custom-built-gaming-laptop-pc.html

But at gentech the GE73VR comes with additional SSD capacity, free thermal, and pixel warranty. Same price if you added all of that stuff on the HIDevolution GE63 https://www.gentechpc.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MSI-GE73VR-Raider-045-B

Only thing is I am not sure about a 17" laptop. Anyone have any input?

 

I'm impressed. I owned a MacBook Pro 15 2013, but this machine is very good.
I can do light usage without heat or noise, the fans don't completely stop but are very quiet. The build quality is good, very good, the keyboard has no flex in normal usage, just some minor ones with applied strength.


I ordered from gentechpc and couldn't be more happy with the choice.

 

Do you mind posting some temps during idle and temps during heavy use? Is the display nice?

Also, how long did it take Gentech to get it to you?


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Depends how much traveling you will be doing with the laptop. If it's going to stay home most of the time then definitely go with the 17". If you plan on using it for work or school then maybe stick with the 15".


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It will be staying home most of the time, but I figured on just getting the 15" and a bigger monitor to plug it in to if I wanted something bigger. However if there are no downsides to the 17" other than travel restrictions then I see no reason not to get it.

 

If anything there is only upside in your case. The 17" should have better thermals due the larger body.

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Got mine in! Keyboard is fantastic. Temps under benchmarks don't exceed 70C when the GTX 1070 is OC'd with the liquid metal paste upgrade from GenTechPC. ~18,500 gpu firestrike score with OC. Build quality is tops.

 

Thanks for the info. What are the CPU Temps under benchmarks?

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The MSI Dragon Center was reading 70C for the cpu under firestrike's cpu portion.

 

Damn. That's just sick for a laptop that size. Laptop's twice it's size are lucky to stay under 85.

How loud do the fans get?

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The fans max around 5500 rpm, and with a quick smartphone decibel measurement, 55 dB next to the fans.

 

Normal Usage 15 min: light browsing youtube, facebook, google...
CPU: Min 47 C (116 F) Max 59 C (138 F)
HD SSD: 32 C (89 F)
HD: 39 C (102 F)
GPU: Min 36 C (102 F) Max 41 C (105 F)

IDLE, only CPUID
CPU: Min 43 C (109 F) Max 57 C (134 F)
HD SSD: 32 C (89 F)
HD: 38 C (100 F)
GPU: Min 36 C (102 F) Max 43 C (109 F)

Unigine Heaven Benchmark for 15 min
CPU: Min 52 C (125 F) Max 79 C (174 F)
HD SSD: 35 C (95 F)
HD: 45 C (113 F)
GPU: Min 53 C (127 F) Max 67 C (152 F)

The fans at load were at around 60%, after stopping for like 1 minute or so the fans were already very low.

 

Hello there!, can anyone with the 17.3 model check the Hardware ID for the monitor? (under Device Manager, Monitors, Properties and Details Tab)

 

can someone confirm the MSI GE63VR 15 inch(model that come with GTX1060) have thunderbolt port ? it would be much appreciate

 

Yes, the GE63VR has Thunderbolt 3.

 

the specification here :

https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GE63VR-7RE-Raider.html#hero-specification

it says only gen2 ? is it compatible with razer core (external GPU) ?



CMIIW

 

I advised incorrectly. Gen2 is the latest USB 3.1 Type-C spec, but it does not support Thunderbolt 3, so it will not support the Razer Core.

We will correct our website shortly.

 

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I'll get that posted up for you today when I'm at the machine. I think it's the same as the GT73VR 120hz/5ms but we'll know for sure soon!

 

For those of you who ordered the Raider, did you stick with the stock thermal paste or did you upgrade it to something else? I only ask because I've heard that while the Temps are slightly higher with the stock paste, it will last a lot longer than others. I've been reading that IC Diamond doesn't last long and should be re-pasted once a year. I've also read that the stock MSI paste lasts 3+ years without drying up.

Does anyone know how long Liquid Ultra lasts?

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The screen is a CMN1747. I upgraded the paste to Liquid Ultra, I think liquid metal does not need a repaste. MSI stock is thicker than I'd like but the PC will still work without throttling out of the box in my experience.

 

Thanks! Then it is the same monitor as the GT73VR. I love this monitor, but I am done carrying 11 pounds everywhere. I will order one soon.

 

What's the hardware id of the 15 inch 120hz/3ms screen? Just curious.

 

On the verge of buying this one.
Can anyone that plays GTA V let me know if the temps and fan noise are okay when you tone down the settings a bit? Would like to do some GTA Online racing on my laptop in the sofa next to the girlfriend. But if it sounds like 15 hair blowers...

Also never owned an MSI product before and am a bit scared about the battery drain/screen tint/microstuttering that some people have...

 

Can't comment on GTA, but my screen doesn't have a tint. Did have microstuttering, resolved by reinstalling windows through the Windows options, NOT the MSI factory option.

 

Thank you for your reply!
How is the laptop on your laptop? Way too hot, or okay?

Hopefully someone else will be able to answer my GTA V question.

 

On-lap the unit does get warm but not uncomfortably so. Playing a graphically light game like League of Legends didn't result in any temps over 68C--and that was the CPU's temp.

 

I would recommend using a lapdesk.

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This is the first I head of micro stuttering. When did it happen the most and how often?

Also, where did you get your unit from? I would have imagined a decent re-seller would have checked those issues.

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It happened randomly (pretty infrequently) when using Windows and swapping between games and general windows tasks. I've searched forums and found it to be a weird a) trackpad driver issue and/or b) nVidia optimus issue. Nothing a good, clean Windows reinstall couldn't cure. No issues now.

 

Awesome. Thanks for the info. Do you know if there is a software setting that allows you to manually turn Optimus on and Off? My laptop stays plugged in most of the time so I'll probably just disable it if there is an option for it.

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Not exactly. You can set your dGPU as the preferred GPU in the nVidia control panel and that can help. This link here should give you the best rundown of microstuttering solutions.

 

Hi anyone know where i can get the cheapest ge63/73 raider around? cheapest i found was a ge73raider at 1879 by a seller named computer upgrade king specs are 1070 16gbrm 128gb ssd + 1tb hdd. a ge63 is preferred as i want the portability. Any information would be great!

edit found out that hid actually has a better deal on the ge63.

 

That's funny you bring this up because they had it on Amazon for 4 days at the wrong price. The one you see now for $1865 was $1724 for the past 4 days. I knew it would change. Just surprised it took this long.

If you order from Gentech, they have a coupon code for $50 off. It is promospro.

I trust Gentech more than CUK and they offer more upgrade options. They are also running some nice promotions such as free thermal paste upgrade.

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so this is the cheapest config with 1070 being offered by gentech/xoticpc

1899

17.3" 1920x1080 TN @120Hz 5ms, 94% NTSC
7th Gen Intel Kaby Lake Core i7-7700HQ
nVidia GTX 1070 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5
16GB DDR4 2400MHz PC19200
256GB M.2 SSD SATA III
1TB 7200rpm 2.5" 9.5mm 128MB SATA III
Optical Drive: None
Intel Wireless-AC 8265 + Bluetooth 4.2
USB 3.1 Type-C, HDMI 2.0
16.49"x11.22"x1.12"
6.17 lbs 6 cell (51Whr)
Windows 10 Home 64bit

vs


1799 being offered by hid(hearing good things about this company)

MSI GE63VR Raider-075 - 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080) 120Hz~3msAnti-Glare LCD w/ nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 - Intel 7th Gen "Kaby Lake" i7-7700HQ - 128GB M.2 PCIe SSD standard Up to 2x 2TB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe or 1TB SATA III SSD plus 1TB 7200 RPM HDD standard - Up to 4TB SSD - 16GB DDR4/2400MHz Memory standardUp to 32GB DDR4/2666MHz - Windows 10


I prefer the ge63 hands down but i would want to know what i would be missing if i opted for the 63vs the 73? which screen is better interms of viewing angles/input. is the 15inch really 3ms vs the 5ms on the ge73? also how many nits are they? I should be able to get a better price at xoticpc since i am a returning customer(but generally wasnt happy with them) but i know gentech could easily match that.

 

Heya! So, I have that exact GE73VR model from GenTechPC, and using the code 'promospro' at checkout the total was ~$1850. So, I think the GE63VR from there would be right around ~$1755. They also have some good free upgrades, especially on liquid metal thermal paste right now. HID is also a stellar option; Donald's the man! Now between the two models, 3ms vs 5ms won't matter. From personal experience, I never have ghosting on the 5ms panel so any difference in pixel response rate at that level is negligible. As for displays, both will be Chi Mei panels and should be about equal in terms of color accuracy and viewing angles. Max brightness is right around 300 nits.

 

I heard that the 17inch panel have good viewing angles despite it being TN. Do you think the panel on the ge63 has good viewing angles too? Also how does it feel? I mean is it premium like the alienware? I am spoiled by the build quality of the AW and i had a very bad experience owning a ge60 from 2012. It was really plasticy but it kept the weight down thats why i settled for it.

 

just want to ask if we replace ourself the ssd to the bigger capacity, it will be void the warranty ?

 

Just received my GE63VR.

- Do you guys recommend reinstalling Windows from start? Or is there simply some bloatware I need to remove?

- Where can I buy a second charger? Since this one weighs a ****ton, I'd rather have two (one at home and one at work)

- Is it possible to switch the "fn" and "windows" keys? Can't find the fn key in steelseries program.
Would be much more logical for me if they were switched.

 

clean install all the way. how are you liking the build quality?

 

Really liking build quality so far.
Some questions about the reinstall though: how do you recommend reinstalling? And don't I need some programs like the steelseries keyboard lightning and dragoncenter, how would I get these after reinstalling?

 

You should be able to get everything you need here:

https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GE63VR-7RE-Raider.html

 

The panel on the GE63 will be very similar in clarity to the GE73. They've got great color and viewing angles for being TN units. The laptop feels solid. The top and palm are brushed aluminum, the hinges are tight and don't creak, and the bottom is well-molded plastics. Nothing will feel as premium as the Alienware, but the new MSI's are of high quality.

 

any initial thoughts on the unit? Also any idea how many watt hour the battery is? I know for a fact my alienware has a 99wh battery just a hair below what is allowed in the airplane.

 

I got mine from hidevolution with this spec
Custom Built MSI GE63VR 7RF Raider-075 15.6" w/ nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
Dragon Fever Bundle
Gaming Backpack
LCD Panel
15.6" FHD (1920*1080), 120Hz 3ms Wideview 94%NTSC Color ...
LCD Panel
15.6" FHD (1920*1080), 120Hz 3ms Wideview 94%NTSC Color Anti-Glare
Display Warranty
30 Days Zero Defective Pixel Warranty (perfect panel gu ...
Display Warranty
30 Days Zero Defective Pixel Warranty (perfect panel guarantee) - $35.00
Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 w/ 8GB GDDR5
Processor
7th Generation Intel Core i7-7700HQ Quad Core Processor ...
Processor
7th Generation Intel Core i7-7700HQ Quad Core Processor, 2.8 GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 3.8GHz), 6MB Smart Cache
Thermal Paste
Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra 100% Metal Thermal Interfac ...
Thermal Paste
Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra 100% Metal Thermal Interface on CPU, IC Diamond on GPU - BEST PERFORMANCE - $50.00
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws 16GB Dual Channel DDR4/2666MHz (2 x 8GB ...
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws 16GB Dual Channel DDR4/2666MHz (2 x 8GB) - installed by HIDevolution - $155.00
RAID Options
no RAID (1st drive as primary boot drive, 2nd drive as ...
RAID Options
no RAID (1st drive as primary boot drive, 2nd drive as storage drive)
M.2 PCIe x4 or SATA SSD Slot 1
Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD ...
M.2 PCIe x4 or SATA SSD Slot 1
Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD - Up to 3,200 MB/s Read-1,900 MB/s Write - installed by HIDevolution - $240.00
M.2 PCIe x4 or SATA SSD Slot 2
None - OS installed on primary drive
2.5" Drive Bay
Empty HDD bay (with caddy/adapter) - -$30.00
Wireless Cards
Intel® Wireless-AC 8265 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ B ...
Wireless Cards
Intel® Wireless-AC 8265 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.2 - installed by HIDevolution - $30.00
Operating System
Genuine Windows® 10 Home, 64bit, English
Operating System Clean Install
Yes, Clean Install of Windows 10 including 32GB Clean I ...
Operating System Clean Install
Yes, Clean Install of Windows 10 including 32GB Clean Install Flash Drive - $40.00
Office Software
None
Power Adapter
230W AC Power Adapter (supports 100-240V)
Power Cord
UK 6 Ft Power Cord C5 - $10.00
Internal Battery
Internal 6 cell battery - 51Whr
Audio
Dynaudio Tech Speakers x 2
Keyboard
SteelSeries Programmable Full Color Backlit w/ Silver L ...
Keyboard
SteelSeries Programmable Full Color Backlit w/ Silver Lining Print - U.S. English
Warranty and Service
1 Year MSI + HIDevolution Limited USA Warranty w/ 1 Yea ...
Warranty and Service
1 Year MSI + HIDevolution Limited USA Warranty w/ 1 Year USA Accidental Damage "No Oops" Protection (Registration within 30 days of Ship Date Required) + LIFETIME HIDevolution Technical Support

that cost me about 2380 usd cant wait

 

nice! wont be getting the warranty stuff anymore as i am not residing in the us. Thats a nice storage setup! if only i could afford it . Trying not to spend over 2000usd. I want to get it too but i have tons of concerns like how is this better than the ge63 when the "gt" line up is msi's top of the line laptop so i think there is a strong chance that it might get refreshed dont you think? mxm gpu + 120hz panels :O

 

anyone know if this has windows hello via webcam?thanks

 

in technology now everything could happen just enjoy the moment if u want to wait you will spend your whole life waiting for new things so since 1070 will give a good portable gaming laptop that u can take every where and weight less than 3 kilos , then im very happy

so just a advice stop hunting every new thing because u wont buy anything XD

 

ofc! thats actually my attitude towards tech too. i know the 1070 will last me a couple of years atleast thats why i want something with the same power as what i have now but it just doesnt make sense how and why the raider series if better(from reviews and the few people who own the system already) is better than the gt series. Also any idea if the camera supports windows hello?

 

gratz on your new laptop.

just want to ask, any sticker on the bottom of the laptop that says "warranty void if seal is brokern"?