MSI GS43VR Phantom Pro's Owner's Lounge

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Okay, here's the deal as far as battery life is concerned. I streamed Interstellar from Amazon, and got 1.75 hours before I got a 10% battery warning.

HOWEVER.

That was on High Performance, 100% brightness, and full volume. So 2 hours looks about right, if you're running this without ANY optimizations for battery life. So, WITH the battery life optimized plan, I think it's safe to expect at least 4-5 hours!

 

Thanks for testing this out !
Looking at the MSI pages for the models I've been considering, the GS43VR seems to be the clear option for the battery.
GS43VR with a 4 cell (61 Whr) battery and a 14" screen.
GS63VR with a 3 cell!!!! (57 Whr) battery and a 15.6" screen. (Probably to keep it under 4 lbs).

My only concern is the temperature of the GS43VR while gaming, but hopefully after tonight you'll be able to provide us with some readings The GS40 reaches the 90-something degrees C range with a 970M, so hopefully it won't be higher with the 1060.
Thanks so much !

 

Xotic-PC is telling me the GS43VR has g-sync ... but I can't find any spec sheets that confirm this. Is it true or not?

Where have you guys been buying your MSI laptops? Looking for the best place in case I have any issues.

 

I'm fairly certain that's a mistake. Xotic's website says the GS43VR has Optimus, which as @Tanner@XoticPC notes above, makes sense given the GS43VR's decent battery life. Optimus and G-sync are not compatible, so it shouldn't have G-sync.

 

Yooooo. That's vital information. Where did you hear that about the 14" clevo using 1050/Ti? Source me please. If that's true I don't wanna waste time messing about cos that's what I'm holding out on.
Are you sure it's not like the p640re and rf where there was a 965m and 970m version? Just trying to hold on to the hope lol

Also using my W230SD with 960m. It's ok. But I downgraded from 970m to save myself cash buying it a 3rd and wait for next gen. So i lost a 60% performance downgrade. So in my mind although 1060 is better by far from 960m. I'm technically measuring it from 970m. It nearly feels like a side grade
So I'd rather clevo release it and buy for cheaper so I dont feel so bitter.
It's that or buy and AW15 with a 1070. (They are the only 15" that doesn't have a number pad on the keyboard. I'd sacrifice size for that 1070 because the keyboard would help me believe it's not that much bigger with the same amount of keys. Also if it's slimmer. And I find a 10% discount code, Game over.

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According to @Ethrem and @Prema - there are new 1000-series SKUs being released. The only thing is, we don't know if the lower-end models will be Maxwell remakes.

At any rate, I am skipping this generation. Pascal is to Maxwell, what Ivy Bridge, Broadwell and Cannonlake are to Sandy Bridge, Haswell and Skylake. They're all more or less the same architecture, plus a die shrink. To be honest I don't know why I got so surprised at the immense performance improvement of Pascal over Maxwell.

We still have two years for the 16 nm node to mature, and for nVidia to finally use HBM2 or even stacked VRAM. Volta is where it's at, and I'm saving my money.

 

It's true it needs to mature. But even still. Two years is quite a way. Xbox is cross gaming from September. I want to run some of their games at an attractive visual. And my 960m won't cut it for forza. And Tom Clancy wild lands. And what ever else turns up between then. Not gonna lie. 970m spoils me. Lol


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Hehe, when one comes from a GT 525M, one learns to temper his expectations... I fully expect to lower my game settings over the next couple of years. It adds more value to the next purchase, when you get to really jack your settings up from a previous GPU.

I will probably purchase Cyberpunk 2077 and BF1; both will likely require rather powerful specs. Which the 860M will soon be incapable of providing. Then there's still all the games that I haven't played yet, but I already have.

 

I've been using Intel HD2000 for tge last years, now that I'm growing my own money you can bet I will not wait for next gen haha it'll be either a, if decent, p640 update or the gs43, which I'm really leaning on to

 

I expect the GS43VR to be much cooler running, as the watt requirement is (I think?) lower than the 970m. We'll know soon.

 

Holy crap all! Been playing Witcher 3 on Ultra for the last 45 minutes or so, and...well...see for yourself what the temp is at 98% GPU utilization. This thing is a freaking beast.

 

74 degrees!! That's amazing! I'm in disbelief, though I really want to believe it! I almost wonder if there's an issue with the Dragon Center's accuracy? Earlier today when you just got the laptop, it recorded a temp of 7 6 degrees, and I just don't see how it could actually be cooler than that after playing Witcher 3 on Ultra for 45 minutes. I'm sorry to keep peppering you with requests, but if isn't too much of a bother, would you mind double checking these temps with another program, like GPU-Z? If the temps are confirmed, I'm almost certainly going to buy one

And thank you so much for providing all this information. You're truly doing the rest of us a great service.

 

How many FPS do you get for W3 on Ultra? And demn, that temp is just wow. I'm being pulled by this laptop right now. But i wonder this laptop can play FF15 on high when it's out ( maybe 1 year or a little bit more after console release)

 

But the Strix (502VS and VM I assume we are talking about) both have GSYNC, which means no Optimus. Wonder how they are getting that kind of battery life then!

Edit: the notebookcheck preview gives the VS 3h16mins of light usage (and ~4 hours idle), so the difference isn't quite that extreme.

 

I'm going to test again on Eco settings and post the results.

 

I can absolutely do that, np! I'll install and run GPU-Z. Not sure on the frame rates, but I'll check it out.

 

Thank you so much!
Is there any chance you can let me know how large is the power supply unit?
(and the spec if possible)

The one with gs40 is pretty large and I plan to replace with razer blade one if the spec is still the same

I think I am pretty much confirmed to get this laptop or its bigger brother since there won't be a portable 1070. Just gotta check the warranty part with my local distributor in Hong Kong.

 

Alright, here's the log file from Afterburner showing temp, usage, etc. in Witcher 3 and a screen from W3. Still looking pretty damned good. FPS tomorrow, cause I'm off to game now!

 

Wow... Just wow... As @Prototime said, im too in disbelief.. Awesome! Thank you so much for all this testing and info. Ive come to conclude that GS43 does much much much better handling temps than the previous generation. Can wait for GS63 now because logically, GS63 should be a little better than GS43, larger surface, and 3 fans should do a better job.

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This is awesome news ! Thank you so much for spending the time to get all these numbers for us.

 

Found this link for the GS63VR , it's in chinese but it has temp readings if you keep looking at the pics.
I'm surprised that they are getting higher temps with the GS63VR but I guess that depends on the load they are putting the laptop under.

 

MSI GS63VR 6RF Stealth Pro Full Review
MSI has a mean slim machine supercharged with the NVIDIA GTX 1060 GPU
http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/msi-gs63vr-6rf-stealth-pro

 

Yah, i saw that few days ago i think. Room temps make much difference too. I dont know, from most of the stuff ive read regarding GS63, all sat temps are sub 80. So is the case here with the GS43 too. Technically, 3 fans should do a better job than two. MSI really talked much about this new cooling technology in GS63 when they revealed it. I cant see how the cooling and temps can be worse than last gen. Yes, the first GS60 had thermal problems, but newer revisions saw all that to be fixed very well. Well, we'll see soon reviews of GS63. Also, the notebookcheck stress test is unrealistic in normal usage. One cant put such stress even in demanding games. But i guess thats a good way to see how the cooling is handled in extreme scenarios. Also, in the tbreak review of GS63, they stated that temps never exceeded 78c, just like here with the GS43. Heres hoping that those temps from the Chinese website dont turn out to be every GS63. But as ive said before, its hard to believe so, when the GS43 is doing this well.

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Hey, did someone find it in Europe (preferably azerty) at a reasonable price? I found one re-seller but the price are crazy (gs43 1833€ without taxes more expensive than 63 and 73!!!)

 

I can understand Chinese,

the room temp is 28 degree.

Gpu gets upto 87 degree with overwatch (limited at 70 fps) and gta5 plus a tank game that I don't know

 

In the video @hmscott linked, he reports that temps during overwatch to be sub 80. Guess with all the variables that come into play when it comes to temps, i guess i have to see myself but as for me, im pretty sure temps will be just fine in both these amazing notebooks.

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@viw I'm too waiting to buy it in Spain/Europe. I think that the price will be around 2k€, at least during the first weeks.

 

The last notebook i had was a GT60 with a GTX 770M. I sold it after 6 months, not because i was having problems, just heavy. So i bought an Asus notebook for the time being. With a GTX 850M. Well, as you can guess, hehe, its not a fast GPU im glad ive waited till pascal.
Having used MSi notebook before, i was really happy with the build quality of the GT60. Loved the keyboard. have done alot of research during the past few months. And im all settled for GS63VR now.
Wonder when the owners lounge for these two laptops are gonna show up. Its really useful for people who come here to find answers when the lounges provide a bunch of useful information about a certain notebook.

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That's quite expensive. You can get a Clevo P650 with 1070/ 1TB SSD for the same price... and they are listed at 1450$ at XOTIC or a bit more than 2.000$ with 1 TB SSD/super thermal paste/3 years warranty ... Damned Europe taxes :-(

 

But the price in XOTIC is w/o taxes

 

I'm coming from the HD3000 for the 5th year now (Bought the laptop in 2011). And trust me, this laptop is still surprisingly doing well at Photoshop, video editing and browsing (Given its specs, 2nd gen i5-2430M, 4gigs DDR3 and 5400RPM HDD, im shocked). Not being able to run games however is the deal breaker here, so it's time for me to move to a true gaming laptop, and it looks like Pascal in this case is my perfect upgrade! Volta surely is promising a better leap, but I can't wait for this poor laptop to completely die on me.

 

I think the key difference in favor of the GS43 in terms of cooling is that it is quite a bit fatter. The GS63 is about 18mm thick, while the GS43 goes from about 22mm to 23mm at its thickest. I'm no engineer, but I think that extra 4mm+ of height across the entire surface would give me a significant opportunity to install better cooling, and it'd be my guess is why the GS43 can make do without a third fan (which is also a good thing for noise and battery life).

 

It looks like the GS43 is the most perfected laptop of the bunch. I'm definitely looking into getting one if it means battery life and thermals are not to worry about for quite a long period of usage.

Speaking of expensive laptops in Spain... I think the sweet spot for buying these laptops would be in Christmas. If I can't happen to afford it, I'll wait. As seen in this thread, it's totally worth it!

 

Can you tell us the size/weight of the power brick for this system? I've got an ASUS GL502VS and while the performance is impressive, I'm not sure I love the design. Might swap it out for this MSI, I really want something uber portable but that still has some horsepower. I was initially concerned about the temps during gaming, but after seeing your results, it seems like the little information indicating that this thing was a furnace was exaggerated (much like this ASUS doesn't really get hot either, i feel just a bit of warmth under my right hand, nothing on my left, and I've been playing fallout 4 on ultra for an hour.)

Does the MSI really weight 3.75 lbs? The asus, for example, is listed at 4.8 lbs but when I weighed it, it was 5.6 lbs.

 

Yes, I would love to find out too. Notebookcheck weighed the GS40 at 4.06 lbs while MSI claimed 1.8kg (3.97) so they didn't seem to be very out of line, but it bears re-checking with the GS43.

By the way, MSI seems to claim the GS43 is 1.8kg, which would be 3.97lbs, I wonder where the 3.75 came from (but I've seen that number too).

 

I pulled the weight from xoticpc and newegg. Likely the weight is determined without the battery in the laptop just to minimize the report as much as possible.

 

@babblin5

Sorry to annoy you once again.
I've read somewhere that the GS43VR comes with the 5400RPM HDD rather than the significantly faster 7200RPM. Is it true? Can you please make sure by simply writing the name of the HDD used in your laptop?
Thanks!

 

It's 7200 1 TB. You should be able to see it in the earlier posted internals screens.

 

yes, i also interested with the "real" weight.
MSI listed GT80 weight as 4.5 kg, but it's actually 4.8 kg with a 1.3 kg power brick for a total weight of 6.2 kg.
I really need a change here.. lol... either this GS43 or GS63...

 

Oh yeah, thank you so much! I didn't notice because I was too hyped and all I looked at was the promised "better" cooling solution. And HEAVENS I was pleased!

 

I'm going to wait for more reviews from other users, but this computer is definitely on my radar.

Here's a video of the Razer blade with the 1060 -

It seems like the GPU temps are at the 90's, I don't honestly know what's going on. If that's the case then I'll probably just purchase the GS43. How are the fan noises on both the CPU and GPU under load?

 

Wow these temps look great. Thanks again @babblin5.

@Miss Maven, have you had an opportunity to game on yours yet? Any thoughts on fan noise or temps on your end?

 

can we swap the HDD by a SDD (conventional SATA)?

 

I think you're right because I think we'll be seeing Kaby Lake laptops by Christmas, so you'll probably have a chance to snag a discounted Skylake model

 

Yes, boutique resellers like XoticPC and Prostar will even do it for you if you ask them to customize the laptop for you when you're placing your order. I'm considering buying a GS43VR and having the reseller swap out MSI's stock 128GB PCIe SSD in the M.2 slot with a 500GB Samsung 850 Evo SSD. It'll be SATA instead of PCIe, but I'm not worried about it because that won't really make a difference in real world performance, and I really want a bigger SSD than what MSI offers by default.

 

Just make sure the M.2 slot supports more than 256GB in size.

 

I won't need a Kaby Lake by then, because I'll never see myself needing all the horsepower offered by the 6700HQ. Hell, even hyperthreading wouldn't be needed unless I'm doing some heavy scan or rendering. Even then, having a fast storage device proves to be equally important for speedy tasks!

 

Yeah, it should - at least XoticPC, Prostar, HIDevolution, and GenTechPC all offer 500GB SSDs as custom configuration options for the M.2 slot on the GS43VR.