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    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by layjohn, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. PySoMaNiC

    PySoMaNiC Notebook Consultant

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    No its on a desk perfectly cooled down runs about 50ish when im gaming, Yeah I dont see why I should be forced to buy a new WIFI card to fix this problem.

    Anyways Im gonna probably install a new windows on another partition and play a few games and see what happens, I dont think it was doing it when I had x64 ultimate it might be something with the ISO I used for professional.

    Thanks for all the help anyways guys.
     
  2. WhatsThePoint

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    A great many people buy a new notebook after seeing only which GPU and CPU is in it.

    There's a lot more hardware that needs to be looked at and some are often not listed in the specs by it's make and model.

    The stock wireless card is only one of the unnamed parts.

    In the case of wireless cards the specs may just say a/b/g/n.

    Is it 150Mbps,300Mbps or 450Mbps?

    Is it single or dual band?

    Who makes it?

    Does it have issues when not in line of sight with the router?

    Does it have issues when more than a few meters from the router?

    Does the OEM regularly issue driver updates?

    What is said about it on the Internet by present and past owners?
     
  3. PySoMaNiC

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    I'm not trying to be an or anything, but a WiFi card that needs to be restarted every 2 hours wouldn't be in business very long.

    I haven't had a single problem with wifi in all of the laptops I've owned since I was a child.

    So I find it hard to believe that in 2012 they would place wifi cards that don't work in laptops. When working ones like the one in my GX740 cost 30$

    Anyways I did a full re-install of a fresh windows 7 and it seems to be good so far.
     
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    My bad, 1202 :p
     
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    The thing about that was, I recommended that you buy a cheap WiFi adapter, and it not even help you :laugh: Because the software conflict would still happen. If you are loading an ISO of Windows, I have had so many issues with loading Windows from ISOs. Even one where the Network adapter would not work. I am sure a lot of peoples problems stem from corrupt windows files on ISOs
     
  6. PySoMaNiC

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    Well Ive been running for a few hours now on the fresh install no problems yet. Hurray!
     
  7. iceman1987

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    I have the issue of getting a black screen after an boot with only an cursor on it. ctrl+alt+delete doesn't work. I can however move the mouse cursor. I performed a couple times a clean install but it hasn't fixed the problem. Run memtest for 5 hours and no errors showed up.
    I did put in an SSD, should I then have to flash to the RAID version bios? Raid mode is off in bios, AHCI is activated.

    Anyone same problem? Or advise?
     
  8. WhatsThePoint

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    Great news.The issue might have been just a corrupt driver.

    Can you enter Safe Mode?
     
  9. iceman1987

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    Yes, and it doesn't happend the whole time. Maybe in 30% of the time Using the 13.1 WHQL chipset and GPU drivers.
     
  10. PySoMaNiC

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    Yeah so I re-installed and nothing still doing it so Im doubting its a driver problem, although it could possibly be this ISO anyways ill install x64 ultimate later on and see if that works better.
     
  11. WhatsThePoint

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    Have you tried flushing the DNS cache on your router and modem if you use a modem.?

    Run as admin the command to flust the router cache

    ipconfig /flushdns

    Turning the power off on the router for 5 minutes may also help.

    If this doesn't resolve issues a hard router reset and setup might work.
     
  12. PySoMaNiC

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    Well I flushed and did a hard reset didnt do much, but I uninstalled the drivers I was recommend on this website.

    Used the windows 8 drivers provided with the ultility cd and everything seems fine, I lost connection every few hours but now its just for like 20seconds and I dont have to restart anything.

    It might not be perfect but ill take it!

    THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE FOR THE HELP!!!!
     
  13. Sublime865

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    Call MSI, make a record of it. If it becomes a bigger issue down the line, you'll have a reference number or complaint number to reference back to an initial build quality problem ;) May not be a huge help but it certainly can't hurt.
     
  14. TommyB0y

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    Definately sounds like some windows software/driver conflict then. Could be from the ISO image. See if Windows update finds a new driver for it. I doubt MSI would be of much help, unless you load Windows from a Microsoft genuine disc or use the OS they provide with it, they can hardly be held responsible.
     
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    If there is something loose on the board, maybe a bad solder joint or faulty connection, I'd want to have some kind of "Hey having an issue here" on the record so if it really goes kaput a year later I can call and say "It's gotten worse" instead of "I have a new issue that I never reported before even though it was happening under a time when I had warranty support".

    Like I said, it may not be of much help at all, but it certainly won't hurt. I've had that save me a few times, the company decided to replace the device outside of warranty for free because of an issue I reported while still in the warranty window.
     
  16. monolm

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    Finally got my GX60 a couple of days ago...and extremely happy with it so far :) Decided to try Windows 8 quickly, and oh god, never again am I loading up that crappy OS!

    First thing I did after shutting it down was to install my SSD, went pretty smooth once I found that last screw (under that BS "warranty void if removed sticker" - thanks, but I'll put an extra hard drive in my laptop if I want and you'll honour your damn warranty still) and installed Windows 7. Everything has gone smoothly - installed all the drivers and utilities I thought I'd need, got some games installed and tried them out as well - SWTOR runs better than it does on my desktop (although maps do take a little longer to load but the increased smoothness in FPS makes up for that). Haven't gotten around to trying any other games yet (natural disaster in my city right now) but given it's outperforming my desktops' i7+5850 I am confident everything else I play will run smoothly as well.

    Only tiny, minor complaint I can have is that the speakers sometimes distort - anyone else experienced this? It's possible I have the volume pumped up too high though.
     
  17. layjohn

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    Speakers distorting might be caused by two factors.

    1. The quality of the original sound source that you're playing from. (ex. Bad recording of the music, crappy quality youtube video, etc.)

    2. The speakers themselves are blown and/or defective.


    Chances are more likely to be the first one, you can try to play some higher quality audio files on max volume and see if it still occurs.
     
  18. PHILIP1193

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    I'm loving windows 8 so far. Don't get me wrong metro is crap but with start 8 installed i am finding it a very good OS. Very snappy and lots of extra little features i'm loving.

    Yet to properly game yet but we shall see what my FPS is like. Its also fixed my problem whereby my Ethernet connection wasn't working :D

    Phil
     
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    Hey could somebody give me a hint witch driver causes my GX60 to ALWAYS get BSOD (BAD_POOL_HEADER ERROR) everytime I plug in the LAN cable to it?

    I was trying to figure this out, but I simply can't find where is the culprit of this BSOD
     
  20. PHILIP1193

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    I never sorted this issue on windows 7, it only worked on windows 7 under safe mode. I installed windows 8 its spot on.
     
  21. LisuPoland

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    Well, I will be sticking to Win 7 for some time since I got it with my GX60.

    Anybody managed to fix this BSOD with LAN?
     
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    Its £15 to get windows 8 as an upgrade, but i guess that's a personal preference thing.
     
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    AMD Catalyst 13.2 Beta 3 is now available, and includes the following updates:

    Improves performance up to 15% in high MSAA cases for the Crysis 3 beta release
    Significantly improves latency performance in Skyrim, Boderlands 2, and Guild Wars 2
    Improves single GPU performance up to 50% for DmC Devil May Cry
    Improves CrossFire performance up to 10% for Crysis 2
    Resolves Texture flickering seen in DirectX9.0c applications.

    http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/AMD_Catalyst_13.2_Beta3.exe
     
  24. layjohn

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    The question is, does it fix the brightness issue... >.<
     
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    I have noticed brightnes issue only on 12.11 beta 8/11. Other drivers tested are OK.
    Win 7 64bit.
     
  26. monolm

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    I dunno what to tell you - I'm running Win 7 x64 (home premium only) and I have had zero issues with the Ethernet port. All I can suggest is doing a fresh install of Windows 7, and grabbing the Atheros Killer LAN drivers from the MSI site (grab the Windows 8 version, that's what I'm using and it's working fine).

    Or you could try going straight for those drivers, but you may end up with some leftover ones that will cause the problem without a fresh OS install.
     
  27. layjohn

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    >.> yaaa it's more of a windows 8 issue
     
  28. layjohn

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    OK... I am having a weird issue..... Oddly this "issue" has a down, but also an up side to it..

    So my computer doesn't "TRULY" shuts down, when I try to shut down.

    I go to "shut down" option, and click on "shut down", and it does. Just like how it normally shuts down, all indicator lights are off, screen off, all HDD and SSD shuts off.
    And when I turn on my computer, it restarts normally just like how it is suppose to turn on. EVERRRTHING is normal. BUT (there's always a but), when I check "task manager" and under performance tab, my uptime is NOT resetting, I notice it when it was at the 1 day mark, and currently is at 4:23:15:54, which is 4days, 23 hours, 15min, and 54 seconds. Within this 4 days I "shut down" my computer every night, so it should've resets everything I shut down, but it is not.....


    Now the up side to this issue I am having is that, from a cold boot, my computer restarts in 5seconds or less! The MSI logo only pops up for about an second, then it goes straight to my log in screen (or start menu) that is impressive.... consider the average restart time for Windows 8 with a single SSD is around 10-15seconds. When I first installed my SSD I was getting the average time of 10-15 second start up time.

    This gives me an impression that my computer is like as if it was in "sleep" mode and does not truly "shut down".

    I even tried to shut down without power plugged in and run only on battery. I haven't try taking out the battery, but that makes no different I would assume, because even if it does reset, but when I put my batter back on, it will start accumulating "up time" again...


    Nothing is affected on the performance, and it doesn't seems like there's any battery drainage (not 100% confirmed). But it is just bothering me..... anyone else having similar issue? or have heard of such kind of issue?



    BTW, I am running on Windows 8.
     
  29. randomice

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    I have read somewhere that it is a new feature of windows 8 to bspeed up the boot process. The only way to truly reset is a the restart option. With shut down it keep settings saved for faster boot and with restart it truly restarts.
     
  30. layjohn

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    huh...That is interesting.. I'll give restart a try right now. Thank you~

    Edit: you sir is absolutely correct! wow... never thought of restarting haha..stupid me.. Thank you very much! I got to say, I am impress with Win 8 then, 5 second boot up?
     
  31. LisuPoland

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    The problem was not with the Wi-Fi driver from Atheros Killer LAN, but from the Killer (Bigfoot) LAN drivers.

    What I did to fix this was... uninstalling the Killer (Bigfoot) LAN drivers (got a BSOD durning that !), but then when I rebooted I had no issues with BSOD when I plugged in the cable to LAN port.
    This has something to do with the software, so those of you who have the same issue on Win 7 - uninstall the Killer (Bigfoot) LAN drivers... otherwise you will get BSOD, unless you have the correct drivers (in witch case you could tell us where to get them).

    I also looked on the Killer (Bigfoot) LAN official webside, their drivers for the Killer E2200 are newer, haven't tried them yet since I have no problems after uninstalling previous drivers, but in case I will start getting BSOD's again, I will keep them stored and install them to see if they work better, than their MSi counterpart.
     
  32. PHILIP1193

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    Yea windows 8 has a quick boot feature when booting from shut down. Its like a hybrid hibernation feature. They did this as most people don't want to actually shut down as such. All they want to is turn off their computer and then start off from where they left off hence the reduced boot time.

    You can turn the hybrid shut down off though if you wish in the power options. Personally though i like it so its staying for me.
     
  33. layjohn

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    what would be a disadvantage of the quick boot function?
     
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    I took this from another forum but i thought it best answers your question....

    This is also a good point ha ha....

     
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    any of you tried using GX60 for autocad, REVIT & 3D rendering softwares like sketchup & 3D max? How does it fare?
     
  36. layjohn

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    haha good stuff thanks!


    i would assume gx60 doesnt handle them too well...
     
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    It's Windows 8...

    lol JK, check if you're running on the dGPU when running the test. If the LED is orange instead of white.

    If it is white, go to enduro and switch it to high performance for 3dmark11
     
  39. PHILIP1193

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    Its 100% on the dGPU and the ATI driver is set the maximum performance under the application. Under windows 7 i'd get about 4400.

    What does your system get under windows 8?

    I've noticed that 3dmark 2011 is reporting the core clock on the 7660 at 800mhz instead of 1200 which is what it was on for my other normal scoring tests. God knows how i change this...
     
  40. layjohn

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    well I know that the 7660 is NOT suppose to be clocked at 1200....

    I'm not in front of my computer right now, ill check when I get back tonight.
     
  41. PHILIP1193

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    ok far enough, let me know when you get time.

    much appreciated

    *edit*. comparing the scores on my benches its mainly graphics test 1 which is killing me, the others look pretty much the same give or take an fps or two.

    Old windows 7 install on 13.1 i got 27 fps now im getting 12 fps :-/
     
  42. layjohn

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    How many times did you ran the test?

    try restarting your computer and not run any programs at all, then try running the benchmark again.
     
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    My 3dmark11 score is P4652 +/- 20

    Graphic - 6415
    Physics - 2482

    G1 = 27.78
    G2 = 31.07
    G3 = 41.73
    G4 = 19.51
    Physic = 8.25
    Comb = 11.55
     
  44. WhatsThePoint

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    More bad news for AMD.

    AMD's Debt Downgraded To One Notch Above Junk Status

    Fitch, the debt rating agency, evidently wasn't pleased with what it heard during AMD's last conference call. The agency has cut AMD's debt rating from a B to a CCC-. That's the last step above default, and it echoes the agency's skepticism over whether or not AMD can continue as a going concern.
     
  45. layjohn

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    =\ more layoff incoming?

    Going bankrupt is very unlikely for AMD, worst cases are more layoff, and slower production. Which mean 3rd or 4th gen APU might get push back.
     
  46. PHILIP1193

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    Yea that score seems spot on. Your running windows 8 too yea? What driver version is that with? 12.9/13.1 or the 13.2 beta 3?

    This install of windows is really fresh so i doubt its software, but i will try and look into it
     
  47. layjohn

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    Yes I'm running Win 8 with 13.1
     
  48. PHILIP1193

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    Ok i'm going to reinstall windows 8 now. It was a fresh install only a few days ago so i'm not that precious over it.

    I'll literally install windows 8 and all the drivers then run 3dmark.

    Phil
     
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    Sounds good, hope that will fix your problem good luck
     
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    I tried to purchase it but the price was too high to fit my budget
     
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