*The Offical MSI GX60 Owners Lounge*

When I played D3 on my GX60, the FPS did drop down to 20-25 FPS, but ony durning very heavy battles in 4 player team.

 

Well i use different videocard drivers than last time. Installed 13_4 chipset drivers (latest) en 13.8 beta 2 driver. I need to dl a program that can follow my cpu speed when gaming, so i can see if pscheck does anything though.

 

Well that about the same as i got i guess. Heavy on cpu usage i guess , still riddled why they dont do those calculation by GPU to relieve the CPU..

 

I'm having troubles with underscanning in certaIN games.
Whenever I choose a resolution lower than 1080p in a Metro2033 or LastLight I get a constant underscan which I cannot get rid of....
Help! What can I do?

 

Try setting image stretching to the size of the screen in CCC settings. That was helping in my case when I pluged external displays.

 

double post - sry.

 

Blame MSi and their engineers for this pointless hardware combo.

 

It happens with the internal display, plus I don't find any setting for scaling....... :/

 

Try to tweak in the "Desktop Management" and "Common Display Tasks" tabs in CCC, there should be something that helps keep the right aspect ratio.

 

Nothing, no chance for me to get Metro running in lower resolution without the black borders around the actual image.

It really is 1600*900 physically on the screen but doesnt upscale.
Other games work flawlessly....damn!

 

If it works in other titles it must be a game setting.

 

Only 1080p and 1600/900 work for me in full screen mode. Any other resolution causes black bars on the sides in every games I played . I wrote about this some time ago. Scaling option in CCC is disabled ( 13.4 ) . With nVidia it was so easy ..

 

I tried everything I know, went thru the user.cfg file back and forth, but couldnt find anything...so frustrasted right now.

Found the problem: DX10/11 no scaling! With DX9 scaling works, but runs and looks like crap.
More and more I feel like Lisu, the A8 ES will be my last resort, if that wont help I'll get a last-gen GT60.

 

I read in one of the newer reviews of GX70... that MSi finally admits, that GX series has bottlenecks... at least they have some last drops of common sense to admit that and stop advertising GX series as an ultimate mobile gaming solution at low price...

Hehe, BTW - notebookcheck reviewer said about GX70 (GX60 with bigger case and display), that this A-10 + 8970m combo is completely pointless and bottlenecks reach even 50%... Mother of God...

 

Why do you want to force non-native resolution? On LCD displays, it can provokes serious image quality loss.
I've finished the Metro LL's campaign on my regular GX60 without experiencing massive framerate drops, except in two very CPU-demanding scenes (Venice, and the last battle). The only really unplayable level is the Nazi's point of view level in the DLC.
Concerning graphic settings, i was running in "high" with FXAA, low motion blur and normal tesselation.

 

Yea I played that one, I had only issues in places you mentioned, one of the games that GX60 plays quite well.

Too bad this notebook is too unpredictable when it comes to playing games, you never know what will run well and what won't.

Also, always stay on native res j_kut, no point tweaking res outside of native.

 

Well, I reinstalled all CCC-drivers and it's running quite well now (1080p, very high settings, high tesselation, no adv.physix, with frame-pacing and triple-buffer enabled) which gives me between 30-60fps so far.
I'm at the Theater now, just finished 2033 yesterday and started playing LastLight.

2033 was great to play, but Iliked the book better.
Anayway, glad it runs fine now

 

Great!

Enjoy, LL is even better than Metero 2033.

 

I'm having a problem running a game called Inquisitor on my dedicated card. I have set the .exe of the game to run on high performance, set the power plan to high performance, set powerplay to high performance, but the game will simply not run on my dedicated card. I need it to run on the dedicated card because the integrated card gives me so much screen tearing that he game is unplayable (forcing vsync makes it worse). I wanted to play this game so badly that I reinstalled Windows and did a clean install of Catalyst 13.4 (before I had 13.8 Beta), but to no avail.

For more details, here are two threads I opened on the Steam forums asking for help (which gave me nothing useful):

Problem getting to run a certain game (Inquisitor) on my dedicated graphics card :: Hardware and Operating Systems
How do I run this game on my dedicated graphics card? :: Inquisitor General Discussions

Does anyone know I can force an .exe to run on my dedicated card? I don't understand why my settings in Catalyst don't work... Are you just out of luck when Catalyst decides to ignore your settings? Makes me hesitant to buy any other games because I cannot know beforehand if setting it on "high performance" in Catalyst will work.

 

Sometimes a game can have more than one EXE, try looking for any others.

 

That's what I thought, but I asked one of the developers or employees if there were any other .exes in use (see my second link op) and he says the game uses only one .exe (which I have set on "high performance"). I see no extra .exes in task manager, and no other .exes appear in Catalyst. Guess I'm forced to pirate games (which I do not prefer or otherwise condone) in the future just to see if Catalyst accepts them.

 

White or orange light on the power button when you play it?
If I was you, I'd tried the Beta18.2 again and enable frame-pacing, maybe then the screen-tearing is gone.

Reading the Min-Specs of the game the internal Radeon 8650G should easily do a flawless job.

 

White light, and I know it is running on the internal card because I forced Vsync on the internal card only and this had an effect (though it made the screen tearing even worse).

My internal is the Radeon 7660G. You would think that it could run the game easily, but, in my experience with games advertised on Steam, the "recommended system requirements" are in reality often the "minimum system requirements." Add to that 1080p resolution, and I am not surprised the internal card cannot handle it. But, hey, that's why I bought a laptop which also has the 7970M...


The 18.2 Beta is not an official driver, right? I'm not sure if that is risky? I'd rather be able to use my dedicated card.

My theory is that Catalyst overwrites my settings because it sees the game as not demanding enough to run on my dedicated card. To test this, I tried to run some light weight programs on "high performance," and Catalyst also runs them only on the internal card. But more demanding applications and all my other games will run on the dedicated card, no problem. If my theory is right, is there a way to fool Catalyst to see the game as more demanding? Can I somehow assign more resources to the game? (Probably not...)

 

I've tried the game myself now, and you're right the 7970M can't be forced on it, but isnt necesary as well.
No screen-tearing issues for me, but it's kinda flickering....as if certain tectures were shaking ^^ (sorry, can't descirbe that better)
Looks like a DX9 issue to me given the past problems of AMD.

 

Hi, I havent read through the entire thread, but I'm having a strange problem with my GX60. All was going pretty well, except I noticed recently that the orange light was always on, even when in powersave mode on the desktop. I checked the CCC settings, and the switchable graphics settings appear to have disappeared, along with any mention of the 7970M . It's very weird. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling my graphics drivers, and tried the AMD clean up util to clear everything off. That screwed my entire windows 8 install (got a sadface on bootup) and I had to reinstall windows.

Since then, no change... orange light is on, but 7660G is the only graphics adapter showing up... no switchable graphics. Before I send it back (having already been told to just update my drivers) has anyone experienced anything similar? It's like the discrete card has disconnected or something... i'm not really game to pull the laptop apart though (i had a wee look but i'm not even sure where the card is located

TIA for any help

 

Thanks for trying it out, but it's definitely tearing for me. Your internal card (8650G) is a little bit better mine (7660G), I think that's why. Anyway, annoying that if I as a user want to run an .exe on the dedicated, AMD does not give me the choice. Since we are a very small minority, I don't have much hope for an official fix.

I may buy the A10-5750M, can you recommend a seller? Did you buy your APU from this eBay seller? Thanks.

Yes, I had to reinstall Windows too because of using the uninstall utility of AMD. I'm buying a standalone version of Windows 8 today, because MSI's Catalst drivers are just too deep in the registry or something on this laptop's pre-installed Windows.

I did not have that. Did you do a complete new install, back to factory settings? Unless you messed with your BIOS or the laptop is defective, both cards should be visible. Try updating to this Catalyst 13.4 (it's for both Windows 7 and 8) without uninstalling MSI's drivers.

 

I have a system pre-installed (8) , and it is extremely difficult to uninstall the software from AMD. Recently I tried to remove all that AMD software by the Catalyst Unistall Menager and I had to restore the system from the recovery console because it does not appear the image . I don't know how to correctly install/unistall gpu drivers on this system ....

 

Uninstall: From Windows, when you click "computer" in the explorer, simply select "deinstall or change program".
Installation: Just install over the current installation.

The AMD cleaner is complete crap, messed up my system too some time ago....stay away from that.

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/GPU57RemoveOldGraphicsDrivers.aspx#Win8

 

If you do simply uninstall like you said all AMD folders and registry files are not deleted. Then you install new drivers over that? Not really...

AMD cleaner deletes everything but it also deletes your chipset drivers too...

 

AMD cleaner messed up everything for meand several other people too.
Uninstallation this way worked best for me, as did simply installing over the previous driver.

If that is not the correct way, I recommend AMD fixes their tools and FAQ accordingly.

 

AMD cleaner works fine for me.

The only problem I get with my GX60 is when I plug in the LAN cable - instant BSOD, tried many drivers.But that is not related to use of the AMD cleaner, I had this BSOD issue since the very beginning.


BTW j-kut - where can I get that A-8 ES, that is seemingly about 38% faster than A-10 4600m ?

Update - Nvm, I already figured out

 

if you guys looking forward for a very good amd/nvidia driver uninstaller
Display Driver Uninstaller Thread - Guru3D.com Forums
i used it whenever i wanted to install latest driver
my step is :-
1. make sure to disable wireless
2.run the DDU(device driver uninstaller) mentioned in the link above
3.click the middle button, the one it says highly recommended
4.it will finish uninstall every component and traces of amd then your laptop restarts
5.after restart, install the original VGA from msi website : http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GX60-Hitman-Edition.html#/?div=Driver&os=Win8 64
6.after that your laptop will restart and and install any drivers from amd site. 13.8b2 is latest. as for me i use 13.X WHQL, a windows 8.1 driver AMD Catalyst 13.X (13.15.102) - Guru3D.com Forums

 

Tried that prog and after reboot he couldnt load into windows . Boot loop into metro then restart

 

I did it exactly, step-by-step . After the restart nothing is displayed. I had to restore the system from recovery console .

 

J_kut.

Noticed that you decided to swap GX60 to GT60, now that GT has finally what CPU is supposed to be

 

Yes, just gave it a shot on ebay and got a ok price (~77% mrsp).
btw i now have A8-5550m for spare, pm me for a good price

 

You could have sold that A-8 with your GX60 to increase the selling price perhaps?

Anyway wish I had the dough, but for know I have to refrain myself from buying A-8.

Maybe Kaveri by some unexcepcted feat will fit in GX60, if not, then I will hunt for A-8

 

How much did you get for your gx60 ?

 

nough. as I said: ~77% msrp.

 

I think I'll get a GT60 in the future, when 870m/875m/970m/975m become available, surely with i7 inside.

 

Wasn't sure what msrp meant.

I looked up the GT60 on newegg(Canada) and they had the GTX 770M in there. Is it weaker than the 675MX ?

Edit. They also have a 4700MQ in there, so I'm guessing it may be a newer version of the GT60. What version do you have ? The one I'm looking at is the GT60 2OC-003US.

 

Mine is called GT60-75X485FD, specs in signature. According to notebookcheck and several other sites the 675mx should be atad faster than the 770m.
I'll let you know how it performs, I guess in gpu-heavy games it wont be as fast as the gx60 and I'll shurely miss tress-fx...maybe I'll put in a 780m or a 8970m in a year or two

 

Performance will be at least CONSISTENT, unlike GX60 that is finicky at playing damn games fluently.

 

Shure, but MetroLL wont run on 'very high' and SSAA like it does now on the GX60 for me, without Adv.Physix of course.
What I hope most for are more consistent drivers like I was used to from my GE60...and not 7fps with one driver and then 30 with another....

 

Hey, GX60 owners and former ones
I've received my A8ES and already played a bit with it. I'm gonna write a full review with some CPU-demanding games tomorrow, but just for teasing, an overwiew of the 3DMark11 increase:
A10-4600M with 2700mhz forced : AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - AMD A10-4600M,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16FK
A8-5550M with 3600mhz forced : AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - AMD Eng Sample Mobile 2185_A1 ,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16FK

I can already hear Lisupoland's roar of joy!

 

Roar!

Nice! Be sure to post your tests and results!

Already from what I see - A-8 ES is over 800 better in Physics Score, than A-10 4600m. Now that is a really noticable boost!

I'm gaining now some optimism towards this laptop.

 

Hello guys and ladies, I'm kinda new here with a GX60 (two months old).

I've tried to search but couln't find a solution for my simplest problem: The P1 button doesn't work. Nothing happens.

What is the application that is responsible for it? I'd like to solve this without installing additional stuff, if possible.

 

It's a leftover from other models, case is the same in many models, GX60 included, so here it's more of a ornament...

 

You have to install SCM from MSI support site. Then when you press P1, a pop up window will ask you to associate any program of your choice with this button. After the association your program will start instantly when you press P1. So it's a customizable button. Enjoy it.

 

Thats about on the par with a non-OC GT60 from the GT60&70 thread on this forum , impressive i must say...