*The Offical MSI GX60 Owners Lounge*

Their biggest mistake was not to unlock the CPU part, with a custom-setting for simultaniously overclocking the CPU and undervolting the iGPU it could been a real sledgehammer.
ES are so easy to overclock and the cooling would have handled it.

But instead MSI tricked us, now with the GT60 for the same price (no OS) I have way better performance.
I still love AMD, but as Lisu said, in the end the APU is for a Multimedia-book on which you can also play, but not for a high-end gaming notebook.

For a lot of games it worked ok, but nowhere near what the 7970m is capable of.
Rendering movies on the other hand was a joy with it.

 

J_kut is the gt60 and gx60 the same barebone? Could motherboatd be swapped i mean physsically

 

Looks identical to me,

 

I couldn't find good inside pictures for th gt60 last month , if you could make some high res pic from the connections. I wanna try to look for an gt60 motherboard try to fit in but only if im about 99% certain

 

Yeah, I'm dissappointed with this laptop. Was in a hurry back in February when I bought it and didnt do enough serious research.

Just can't believe as Lisu has said, that MSI would knowingly hamstring a GPU like the 7970 by pairing it with these A10 APU's, what a waste. I just didnt think these cpu's could be that bad. MSI tricked me good, but I've learnt my lesson.

Anyway if we had at least had the option to OC, I would've been ok with that, but as it stands its lame, and not such great value for money anymore, seeing as I could've got a multimedia laptop for cheaper if that was what I was after.

 

If you do manage to find a motherboard and do the change let us know how it went.

 

Shure, will take some shots tomorrow, tell me if you want anything closed up.

 

Yeah, A10 for sure, I experienced also when I had this machine. However I read he overclocked the GPU near overclocked A8-5550M and that is makes lot of difference. Seemed even in gaming he had 100% GPU usage.

 

Even A-8 ES does bottleneck 7970m, it's lesser of course, but only i7 makes it worth to OC the 7970m.

 

Can I turn off two cores of the A-10 processor , and set other two to work at 3.2 GHz ? . How to do it?

 

Ok, I've been away from this forum for a while so bear with me. Are you saying the A8-5550m will fit in the CPU socket of the GX60 and replace the A10-4600? Everything fits ok?

I thought the only replacement was the marginally better a10-5750m. Could someone clarify? What options do I have for my gx60' CPU, short of getting a new laptop?

Thanks all!

 

Msconfig / boot / advanced

 

Thank you. Tell me if you know, does it make sense? . If I turn off two cores , will I have more fps in games that do not use 4 cores? The Witcher for example ..

 

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Thank you for the pictures. I did some research and i looks like the ms16F3 MB doesn't work with ati cards , without some knowledge about bios modding... The ms16F2 does this job better , so maybe that will be my route. Only has an older chipset

 

well "only " a A8-5550 ES Overclocked will be better because it can clock to 3.6GHz . The normal 5550M version will be a downgrade

 

Most probably not most games use multi-core processing, you can try it though, You will see that most probably both cores will be at 100%.

 

Ok, so the A8-5550 ES overclocked will improve performance over the A10-4600 and will fit the motherboard's socket. Got it. How does the A8-5550 ES match up against the A10-5750m?

I'm not going to return this thing, I'm stuck with it. I may as well make it as good as I can. I just figured the A8 wouldn't fit the same socket. So how do the two chips upgrade options stack up against one another?

Thanks

 

Once overclocked it will destroy any stock CPU.

If you have this system, get the ES and overclock it, it will turn it into a very acceptable gaming machine and really turn it into what it should have been if AMD had been smart.

 

Thanks for the advice! Will do. I will try and locate an A8-5550m ES. Never overclocked before. Should I stick with Atom Ant's suggestion? I don't want to push the thing too much and burn it out. Any ideas of what temp it should run at? Can you over clock the CPU to consistently run at 3.6?

I apologize for bombarding everyone with these posts, but after spending$1200 on a laptop (BTW I am still not disappointed with my purchase, it runs Shogun 2 and Empire Total War great), I don't want to spend another $200 just to then catch the thing on fire.

My goal is to try and see if this thing can run Rome 2 Total War. It's incredibly demanding, I know. But it looks as though the GPU can handle it.

Which reminds me, Shogun 2 and Rome 2 both show in game options the 7600 GPU with 2.5 gigs RAM as the card. I have selected 'High Performance' for both games in Windows 8. Think it is actually running on the better card?

Thanks again for all the advice fellow gamers!

 

has anyone tried Total War: Rome 2 on the gx60?
how is the performance?

 

.... with this CPU you can guess how it runs...

 

I know these processors are constantly running 3.6GHz in several laptops, but even if you just run at 3.2GHz already significantly faster as stock A10-5750M. Temperature should not be problem in GX60.

 

Maybe it is one of those games that the GX60 runs perfectly fine

 

Just ask yourself this question :
Game CPU dependent = high chance for bad performance
Game GPU dependent = much better performance

So at which catagory is Rome2

 

Isn't there any way to hold all cores of A10- 4600 at 2.7 GHZ without installing any third party program? Like by messing deep inside windows or bios or something?

 

My desktop is a beast so I bought Rome 2 on steam for it. Considering how well shogun 2 was on the GX60, I figured I'd try Rome on there just for kicks.

Unit sizes had to be turned to medium and many of the graphics options way down. Even then, battles with multiple units really stuttered. It is pretty much unplayable. With what I've heard of the dedicated card in the gx60, I'm positive it's the CPU and not the gpu holding it back.

 

I've already read on a polish forum, that it runs bad...

 

No, I had a very deep investigation and could not. With the unlocked cpu you could, there are multiplier options in the unlocked bios.

 

Well after some investigation and private conversation with forum members it is to hard/expensive for me to modify it for an intel system soooo i m the process of buying a a8 from Atom Ant Kinda look forward to it to do some OC . Always did it on my AMD desktops

 

http://forum.techinferno.com/msi/4384-msi-gx60-laptop-overclock.html#post61318

This post here said the turbo clock can be locked manually....i have never tried it myself

If only AMD overdrive works properly....locking turbo clock should be easier...

 

Turbo clock can be locked using Bar Edit, but I haven't figured out how it works, seems complicated but is supposed to be the correct way to do it. Perhaps someone else can provide instructions.

 

The way I see it I am getting between around 2950 (top 2982) Physics points with my 4600, and from Megatranche's 3dmark11 score I see he had 3311 physics points. I am having difficulty convincing myself that that sort of gain is worth getting an overpriced A8 5550. Just doesnt seem worth the extra cost to me for a small gain like that + higher temperatures. I know some owners of this system are quite desperate now, so I understand where you're coming from. If +-350 points would make a big difference in cpu intensive games then it could be worth it.

 

Meaker, from what I have been able to tell the unlocked bios was for win7 which is why people with win8 bricked their systems, can you confirm this? I was just interested in what it unlocked and whether Bclk overclocking was possible?

 

Hi guys, honestly, first thing i have to say is - my english is bad (but i'll understand you)...so, i hope you'll understand to me... Because i have problem with my GX60 and i'm new here, i need to know if i can post my problem(s) to this thread or make new. Thanks : )

 

Hey electrofeenix, you need to compare similar systems. Actually, i've never been above 2500P for CPU score, whenever win7 or 8. So 3300 is a huge bump. There is good chances that on your laptop, A8's CPU score would approach 4000 CPU points.
Anyway, benchmarks are only synthetic, I'm only looking at programs and games performance improvement.

 

3dMark 11 - Page 7 - Benchmarks - OverclockersClub Forums this post says u can increase cpu score with better timing on the memory . So mayb his timings are better thus higher cpu score

 

Has anyone else tried using 2 additional monitors?
My system is as follows : monitor1 has to show stb via hdmi and pc via d-sub (input change at will)
monitor2 has to show only pc via hdmi

If i connect monitor1 with d-sub and monitor2 with hdmi to my gx60 then the desktop only extends to monitor 2 ,and monitor1 is showing no signal.
If i unplug only hdmi then image is shown on monitor1.

Whats the deal?

 

I recall something about adding monitors that with 2 u must use the display port +hdmi/dsub (mayb because they are multiplexxed, ) . But im not certain is thats with 2 or 3 monitors

 

Welcome. Yes you can ask questions about your problems here. We are waiting.

 

Hi Megatranche, I agree, programs and games are all that count at the end of the day. I just use benchmarks as a reference point to determine roughly where my system is compared to others. I think your upgrade was really good. I only questioned whether it would be worthwhile for me because the price of the cpu's shot up. If we assume that I just had a better a10 4600 in my gx60 then that would most likely mean that the benefit of me installing an A8 ES would be less than it was for you. But I do hear what you are saying and I suppose it is possible that I could get better performance than what you have achieved. Will be interesting to see what results others get doing the same as you.

Also just to avoid any confusion, I got the 3dmark11 physics score of 2982 forcing 2.7 with PSCHECK and using a cpu accelerator. My system is stock gx60 1ac, I haven't changed a thing except put in 128gb ssd and win7 OS. Obviously physics is where GX60 owners are being let down in gaming, and thats why I am focussing on those results.

By the way if anyone is having problems disabling the Bigfoot configuration message on boot up, its because you're using Win7 on a Win8 bios. It cant be done. You will just have to ignore the message or change back to Win8. This was according to MSI after a lot of investigating.

 

There is my problem: First i had problem with S-Bar, because i didn't know that name is "S-Bar" and couldn't find driver. However, i figured it out and found drivers for win7, then it start works. But now doesn't work my hotkey for brightness...actually it works, but brightness doesn't change... Also I should say, that i have installed new firmware 505 (16FKEMS2.505) but cooler boost doesn't work properly, so i downgrade to 502 (16FKEMS2.502)... My question is, where is the problem, and are there some drivers for S-Bar for Win8? Thanks : )

 

For you, probably not since you can already squeeze more juice from your 4600m with PScheck...the cost is just too much...but for people who is stuck with 4600m and win 8, the A8 ES seems like a good improvement...that's about 20% increase in CPU power...

If only AMD Overdrive works properly to allow turbo clock lock, then everyone would be able to see some improvement by just locking the turbo clock...

 

Even with that lock, you still will be left wanting more.

 

Generic VGA video card benchmark result - AMD Eng Sample Mobile 2185_A1 ,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16FK
look at it.

thats with stable 3,8GHz at GX60 with A8 ES

 

57xx omg... all hail ES

what settings is are you using and what about the temp ?

 

Notice the OC on 7970m...

 

Holly Cow ! this ES processor is better every time. The physics score also very nice!

 

This. So much this. I was blinded by the 7970M and was in a hurry to get a laptop back in Feb and did the same thing. I knew the CPU was a bit of a bottleneck, but I never knew just how much it would hold the GPU back.

 

Witch is why I for ex. won't ever buy another thing from MSi.

I can't let them get my money again for misleading me for purchase with their stupid promises and comercial.