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unfortunately it is not my scoore yet. It belongs to one of the Polish mate. He introduced it at local forum.

 

This is a bit of a left-field request, but are any of you GX owners located in Seattle, WA? I don't have this laptop, but I stay updated on the thread because it's so unusual and you guys thrill me with your efforts. Anyway, I want to get my hands on one as I'm a pro at tweaking AMD systems and I refuse to believe there is no hope for this one. It may take hours and I have nothing to gain from it besides the glory, but I would love to make the attempt. PM me if you're willing to let me try. I would be happy to provide credentials.

 

Your not doing here anything else just keep complaining and repeating the same bulls in every your posts. It is boring mate! For me it was not so bad gaming machine, I could max out many games already with the week A10-4600M and now looking for the way to get back my sold machine or get a new one with A10-5750M and than exchange to A8-5550M ES. With the new CPU it is again the most effective gaming machine for the price! My only fear, when I'll be able to get together my money, these A8 ES processors are already gone, like the A10 ES ones .

 

Dude you can max out EVERY game with ANY DX11 GPU, the thing is - if I get lousy 20 FPS (on a modern, newly released notebook model from an "experienced company"), then where is the pleasure in playing with such stutter, lack of mouse smoothness and responsiveness?

I feel entitled to feel screwed over by MSi, because as a customer I am very disappointed.

GX seris is adverstived as a gaming series and therefore it is obligated to play games -> GX60 does not play games well (with an exception of only a handful of non-CPU demanding games), even when you lower the details (witch kinda kills the purpose of 7970m in GX in the first place) - you see the connection here and where this is going?

 

We already know how you are feeling, thanks to repeat again! I just wonder why do not you take yourself over it, sell it and let others to enjoy their machines .

 

That's my GT60 with the GTX675MX, way less graphics power, but the combined test is still better and games run smoother, except Crysis3 isnt possible on Ultra...
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F3

 

of course. This oced ES is still AMD ;p

 

That is a very nice cpu improvement! I would be happy with that. Fortune favours the brave as they say. Looks like all the ES are gone now . Come on tooth fairy, leave one under my bed tonight...hehe

 

A would better pray for OCable A10 ES.

Unfortunately A8 doasnt support 1866MHz ram

 

Very Nice!

Would swap my GX60 for this combo right away.

GT60 is what GX60 should have been... but that would kill the purpose of GX60 since there is GT60 already.... so...MSi wth is your logic?

 

The GX series is for AMD hardware based lappy and GT for NVIDIA.

 

for information, ( be clement, i am french )

a have too a A8-5550 ES on a GX60 with Noctua NT-H1
at 3.4ghz and 7970M OC 940/1400 i have for 3DMark11
gpu/phys/combi
7044/ 3731/3369

3731 on physic score it's :thumbsup:
but it s difficult to obtain 3.7Ghz

 

you say there is no diffrence between 3,4GHz and 3,8GHz? can you check it?

 

no just my oc is rockstable to 3.4 without throttling OCCT, game, Temp etc... ( 3.5 too but not completely tested )

At 3.6-3.8 there is a lot of throttling ( for me ), i test but i think the OC score 3.8 is not totally stable....
i will try tonight

it's strange that my result at 3.4 is the same that 3.8 ???
i will post my result

 

stock gpu/cpu
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7151825

stock gpu CPU à 3.4
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7151996

 

thats just what I was thinking about. Anyway I can't believe GX cant handle some more TDP

 

Unfortunately, both cores are working only on 2.3.
Does anyone use , and can recommend some mods stable drivers to improve performance in DX9 ?

 

stock gpu/cpu
AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - AMD Eng Sample Mobile 2185_A1,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16FK

stock gpu CPU à 3.4
AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - AMD Eng Sample Mobile 2185_A1,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16FK

gpu 970/1500 cpu 3.5
AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - AMD Eng Sample Mobile 2185_A1,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16FK

gpu 970/1500 cpu 3.6
AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - AMD Eng Sample Mobile 2185_A1,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16FK
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7153296

 

Lol. 80 pts for 200MHz. It looks like tottaly not stable. By the way its good that the nice result is reachable in lower clocks

 

Very good news 3.8GHz not needed to reach 37xx Physics score. What system memory you use? I read earlier in this topic, 1600MHz CL8 memory do additional goods for Physics, maybe that could pull to 4000 points.

 

i test the o/c but at 3.5 cpu and 970/1500 gpu the MSI GX is totally stable..

at 3.6 it's différent but i think it s possible....
and have you seen the différence between stock and OC

CPU score on 3dmou11:
A10-4600M stock max OC =====> 2732
A8-5550 stock max OC =====> 2400
A10-5750m stock max OC 3.5Gz =====> 3149
A8-5550 à 3.4Ghz =====> 3731 ( stable OCCT, game, bench... )

 

Can you test A8 ES at 4x 3.2GHz (A10 5750m)? I suppose it performs better then A10 at this clock and just wonder why.

 

yes i do it tonight ( after work ) without increase vid and i will post the result

5750m will work at 2.5 for 4/4 cores and turbo 3.5 on one core it s sure that the 5550m at 4*3.2 will work better

 

there is a known way to lock a10 5750m at 4x 3,2GHz

 

yes i know it's possible to fix the cpu ( that i do ) with overdrive...
in fact yesteday when i tested the O/C, it's seems that the limit of the cpu vid is 1.22v
highter than the cpu throttled a lot ( for me ).

but when the cpu is lock to 3.4/3.5 the gpu was always use at 99%, that it s fine

at 3.2
====> http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7156646

 

the question now is why A10 5750m doasnt scoore like that.

 

Hello,

Unfortunately, the THX Tru Studio Pro Ref3 not go with Windows 8.1. Will there be an update of the driver?

Or an update is already finished?

Thank you.

 

Low voltage, thermal limits. , could be anything es version doesnt have

 

Is Gx60 with a10-5750 worth buying instead of lenovo y500 with 650 sli? I would like to see some opinions from Gx60's owners

 

No, even with the A10 the 7970m is still faster, except maybe some problem childs like GW2 or Hitman will run smoother on medium or high settings.
But the biggest downsides on the Y500 are the screen and that there`s no optimus.

GX60 is definitely better, but a GT60 without OS is the same price and probably the best chioce..

But if you`re on a budget, and can get the y500 for cheap then go with it, I just saw the y500 (i5-3230, 650SLI) on amazon for 700€, that´s a steal imo.

 

hi,

i post some result on french forum p4g

[Review] Msi Gx60 A8-5550Es Et 7970M - Les tests des membres - Portables 4 Gamers

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http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7167966

 

Ty j_kut, i think i will get that gx60 then

 

With the ES in it the machine should fly

 

Hey guys, In particular Randomice and J_kut because I recall you discussing attempting something similar in the past

I found a guy selling off the parts to his GT60 because of a screen problem and was wondering how possible it would be to take the motherboard and processor and put it into my gx60?
From the photos that J_kut posted the motherboard doesn't look to want to come out and what do you guys reckon the likelihood of bricking both would be?

Thanks for the input, It's really just a dream but seeing as the opportunity arose it's worth asking

 

Like only in parts, or would he sell the whole thiong too?
Swapping Displays seems smarter and easier than changing the whole motherboard.
Tbh I dont know if it's possible, since I didnt try but went for a GT60 instead.

 

Like j_kut says , swappings displays is by far the best thign to do. Only the the 7970M is not supported , maybe but maybe with some advanced bios tweaking it could be done. You could always sell the 7970M and buy an 680M , shouldnt be that much money extra . I ask majestic_msi and this were his answer about swapping :
1. Lower case assy (cover d ) is different.
2. Sensor board is different,

 

They have different outputs so the motherboard wont fit in the case.

 

Ok, so I bit the bullet and bought the A8-5550m es chip after reading Atom Ant's over clocking review. I am more than willing to write any and all comparisons of before and after the CPU replacements with benchmarks and performance. However, I've never upgraded a laptop CPU or over locked. Can anyone give me any advice?

How does thermal paste work? I've looked at AMD's overdrive but I'm not sure exactly sure what to set everything at. Heck, I don't even know what temps are ok to constantly run at. From what I saw, 3.3 ghz was ok.

Anyone have any advice/feedback for a newbie?

And once I get the APU replaced and up and running, just send me the benchmarks to run, and I'll get you the results.

Thanks everyone.

 

New Bios GX60 1AC http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GX60-1AC.html#/?div=BIOS&nbos=win8

50A

 

Hey Jimd0586!

Welcome in the very select club of GX60/A8ES owners
I've posted a couple of pages earlier a short tutorial for APU mounting : http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/692264-offical-msi-gx60-owners-lounge-263.html
Concerning overclocking, AMD's Catalyst Control Center allows you to bump clocks at stock voltage. Higher frequencies may be reachable with overvolting, for doing so you can install the powerfull AMD Overdrive software.

Have fun with your new toy!

 

a8 5550ES at 3.8, i think broke 4000 pt physics score 3dmarkk11 is possible

at 3.6 i broke 3900pt

Who are the first to broke P6000 with the gx60

 

Damn, I'd loved to try that myself now.
@mullrof: be good to the A8

 

My a8 arrived also. Hope im able to test it this weekend

 

It's the combined score you will want to be boosting, this was the best result I got on mine with the 4600M:

AMD Radeon HD 7660G video card benchmark result - AMD A10-4600M,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16FK

You will also be wanting to tweak your memory latencies as low as possible to get the best scores.

 

wow i just saw that the titan does 11k in your link 5k not bad for almost half the price. Anyone have a link for the A8 5550M with 7970m?

 

How much improvement can we get from the lower latency rams? say going from CL11 to CL10 or CL9?

 

Hey guys

Just wondering if there was anyone on here that was a bit smarter than me that could follow the instructions from Kenglish over on the other forum to lock their a10-5750. Here is what he described:

"You can lock the CPU to never run slower than 3ghz, but as for actual overclocking that is not possible (unless AMD reference clock documentation gets leaked).

How to lock to 3ghz and 3.5ghz:

There is no program that does it properly, so you need to do it directly with PCI config space writes. I use BAR-EDIT on the trinity laptop I have access to. The way the method works is you just limit the number of P-states the processor is allowed to use. PScheck can do this, but it neglects changing what P-state the CPU goes into C6 in, which is set by default to a state that is no longer available, thus breaking the top turbo bin.

B0D24F3xDC clear bits 9 and 10 (in english: on bus 0, device 24, function 3, offset 0xDC, make bits 9 and 10 equal to 0)

To then fix top turbo:

B0D24F3xA8 clear bits 30 and 31

These changes net a consistent 9-12% raw performance gain in multithreaded programs. In games the difference is actually more noticeable since without this fix the CPU will randomly drop as low as 1.6ghz for me, which is just flat out dumb and causes major stutter.

cinebench throttle fix vs no fix: http://i.imgur.com/Ov8Wkhk.jpg (this fix alone only gets to 2.27, not 2.29. I also lowered memory timings a little for the 2.29)

cpu only hits low 70s in P95 with this fix and an undervolt. Undervolt can be done with AmdMsrTweaker or manually with MSR writes."

*** I asked him to expand and dumb it down for me ***

"There's really not much more to say. Power limiting features will cause the CPU to throttle down from whatever your 2nd boost level is (2.7ghz for 4600m, 3.0ghz for 5750m) when all cores are maxed. This disables those lower power states so that throttling is impossible. I did this on a 4600m.

As for danger to hardware there is going to be a small increase in power draw when the CPU is fully loaded which may stress the VRM and FETs more, but it should not be enough to be dangerous. There is no risk of a brick from using BAR-EDIT or AmdMsrTweaker. All changes are reset on power down.

For a while I thought that I was getting stuttering due to this tweak, but I found the same stuttering to occur without the tweak as well. The only real side effect I got is that since lower power states are disabled, the laptop cannot power itself off. When shutting down you will either need to revert the bar edit change, or hold the power button down in a similar situation to the old AT PSU days with, "It is now OK to turn off your computer". The HDD and most other hardware is off, so there is no data loss danger. "


The only reason I ask here before doing it myself is that I know almost everyone else on this forum is more capable than me at overclocking, editing bits or under volting.

Let me know if anyone is knowledgeable and brave enough to try because I think we all need some kind of boost... I'm tired of searching auction sites and tossing up whether or not to trade up now, I mean games are only going to get more CPU intensive and if we can't keep up and have no upgrade possibilities...? (a8-ES is impossible from where I am..)

Thanks a million team, Hope we get somewhere good!

 

I have tried to to that with 4600m - no boost.

@j_kut
I'll be ;p everyday I am looking for it at a post.

 

Important point though, is that no boost when comparing Kenglish's method vs having your 4600m locked at 2.7Ghz using PSCHECK? or was it no difference between stock 4600m vs his method?
Because locking the 4600m seemed to significantly help it, so being able to do the same for our 5750m on windows 8 should also be a significant boost.

Willing to hear from anyone that has successfully locked their 5750m on windows 8 and the method they used?

 

There are two new bios updates, one for SATA mode AHCI and one for SATA mode RAID. But my computer was set to IDE by default. I tried to set it to AHCI but it crashed my system and I had to reverse back to IDE. Which BIOS update should I get? Thank you.