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    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by layjohn, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. LisuPoland

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    1) It's probably reading error in the program you are using, not way an idle APU would reach such temps, try using HWmonitor or AIDA64
    2) Yes, however for the dedicated gpu -> go to guru3d site and download 14.8 WHQL drivers - these are stable, support Mantle, and give nice boost compared to the MSi driver.
    3) PSCheck to force turbo on the APU, depending on your A-10 it's 2.7 Ghz for 4600m and 3.2 Ghz for 5750m. You cannot overclock retail A-10s, only ES version (Engineering Sample) of an APU can be overcloced (it still can be purchased on auctions on the net).
    4) Newest CCC 14.8 WHQL with I mentioned above has a good iGPU/dGPU switch module, earlier versions had problems figuring out witch GPU you want to use, but starting from 14.4 it got better.

    Get the 14.8 WHQL
     
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    Thank you for your really quick reply

    HWmonitor gives 100 ish whilst AIDA64 gives a reasonably 50 so I'm not sure which one is right.
    Also, did you have trouble getting windows 8 to update, mine doesn't download anything, even when I do it one by one.

    Thanks
     
  3. LisuPoland

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    No way it's 100 C, the 50 C read is the credible one.

    Also, if you want more CPU power, try to get Enginnering Sample of A-10 5750m (it has the "ES" tag in description on auctions).
    They are still being sold on the internet, but they are becoming far in between, as the ammount of available pieces is thawing.
    Be fast, get A-10 5750m ES - you can get one for 60 USD with free shipping from China.
    Such CPU gives you about 15-25% performance boost in games and it requires only a bit of research and tweaking to learn how to properly overclock it. Also it is currently THE best CPU you can put in any GX series notebook.
    I could help you out with the OC, if you get that ES.

    Cheerz,
     
  4. LisuPoland

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    Does anyone know, if I can install Hitman Edition BIOS on my GX60-1AC now that I have a Richland CPU?

    I could bypass the ROMID check and force the install... but I don't know if this can brick my laptop...
     
  5. Mullrof

    Mullrof Notebook Consultant

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    I did that
     
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    nounta1016 Notebook Guru

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    HI, I was wondering if you can do some tests on games and tell me how games run on it, like how much fps you get for a CPU demanding game. Also if switching CPU cause a big increase in temp, and reduced battery life by a lot?
    I actually just got a sager np9150 for a pretty high price, but i also just got a msi gx60 for almost half the cost. I was originally put off by how the A10-4600 was so slow, but for $50 if it can put it closer to an i5 proformance I would much rather save over half the cost of the sager.
     
  7. Dezmenn

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    Is the temp of a10 4600m under heavy load 80-90 degrees safe? Been using it for 1.5 years
     
  8. romanpol123

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    All of my HD Games can play smoothly in GX60 with the very high/ultra graphics, except only of 2 games, Need For Speed: Most Wanted 2012 and FarCry3.

    *So in NFS:MW, I can play it SMOOTHLY on Medium Settings graphics, but when I put in on a High Settings, the FPS drops to 10-12fps. That's so ridiculous right. :(

    **And here's what the most I became frustated, in FarCry3. When i first open the game, OF COURSE, i put all the graphics settings to Ultra, and blah blah blah to high. but HOLY , when I play the game, the FPS is about 2-5 fps.
    And then I try the VERY HIGH Graphics, and its go to 5-7fps.
    And the HIGH Graphics, go to 10-13fps.
    And the MEDIUM Graphics, go to 15-17fps.
    And the LOW Graphics, go to 20-25fps.
    And lastly the VERY LOW Graphics, go to 30-35fps.
    SO IN THAT, I PLAY THE GAME SMOOTHLY ON VERY LOW SETTINGS>

    Is the problem on GX60Laptop or on the 2 games I said above?
    Thanks for the reply (If someone wants to reply)
     
  9. LisuPoland

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    No.

    My GX60 after 2 years with A-10 4600m was reaching about 74C and that is in very intensive tasks.
    Now that I upgraded to A-10 5750m ES I get 25 C (no load) - 85 C (maximum load for about and hour and onward) after overclocking to 3.6 Ghz, so you see it's most likely the dust in your vents that blocks the outflow of hot air.
     
  10. LisuPoland

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    A-10 is the culprit, the CPU is weak.
     
  11. nounta1016

    nounta1016 Notebook Guru

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    Yes, this is just a stock one. No OC on that one for sure.

    For a real A-10 5750m ES - try here.

    Aliexpress.com : Buy Original Processor QS/ES A10 5750M (ZM258563C44HJ,4MB L2 Cache,2.5GHz to 3.5GHz, A10 5750M ) Socket FS1(FS1r2) PGA722 Laptop CPU from Reliable cache cpu suppliers on Shenzhen Zhi Xiang Cheng Technology Co.,Ltd.

    This is a confirmed legit source.

    The real ES must have a "AMD ENG SAMPLE" sentence on the black area (like the one in the link above).
    Also, notice how ES, spite being better CPUs for GX users, are cheaper, than the retail A-10s.

    60 USD is a very good price.
     
  13. nounta1016

    nounta1016 Notebook Guru

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    Thank you! I just placed an order, sadly it won't be here until 20 to 30days.
     
  14. LisuPoland

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    I waited for about 30 days to get my ES, but it was worth it :)

    Just be patient.

    You will get about 25-30% performance boost, maybe even bigger, if ES piece you will get will have even better threshold for OC.

    Anyway, 3.6 Ghz ES running on 1.2000 voltage is 100% stable (use AMD Overdrive to set the frequencies and voltages).
    Also you WILL need an unlocked BIOS to permanently turn off Turbo mode on the ES in the BIOS settings (otherwise, ES will always want to run on pre-defined 2.5 Ghz - 3.2 Ghz frequencies) .

    My advice of action is:

    1) install ES,you can use the thermal paste from this vendor (you will get one tube of paste for FREE along with the ES in the package),
    2) run the laptop for the first time, you will notice that your graphics are all messed up (Windows won't see the CCC drives), just use "Driver Display Uninstaller" from the Guru3D. After full clean-up of the old AMD drivers install the newest CCC drives (current is 14.8 WHQL), just remember to do CUSTOM install to un-tick Gaming Evolved (useless aggravating malware from AMD, that is supposed to help you optimize games, but in reality it never helps, just gets in the way).
    3) dowload the newest BIOS for the "Hitman Edition" of GX60, this BIOS will work (I use it with no problem) since GX60-1AC and GX60 "Hitman Edition" only differ in terms of CPU (Trinity vs Richland). Richland ES will run all right on Trinity BIOS, but since you will have a Richland ES, it's better to have Richland BIOS - just in case.
    4) durning the update of BIOS, a ROMID check will not allow you to update - it's a safety measure witch needs to be bypassed. I can guide you through it once you get your ES.
    5) after updating to Richland BIOS from the Hitman Edition - the new BIOS still needs to be unlocked to access the CPU turbo mode settings, for this you need files not available on MSi site, PM me and I can send you them.
     
  15. Dezmenn

    Dezmenn Notebook Consultant

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    I see. I have to lower my apu clocks all the time to get the temp low. Is 75 degrees safe (long term)? So how was ur new apu? How good is it? Still bottlenecking?
     
  16. LisuPoland

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    My ES? Still bottlenecking, but a lot less, than my previous A-10 4600m!
    I am satisfied with this upgrade, since Mantle games should run without a single fart on ES :) well... maybe except GTA V, but if that game does get Mantle support, then GTA IV will look like a parody of programming beside it.

    Open your GX and clean the dust from the fan, it's very easy and should help with the temps.
     
  17. Consi Pit

    Consi Pit Notebook Evangelist

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    I asked because I have a weak link for downloading. I downloaded - it works perfectly on the highest settings. (A-10 , no OC ) .
    Regards .
     
  18. tollingalong

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    Something is wrong. I get more than 30-35 with on 1080p with the integrated card on lowest settings. Highest settings got me 40-50fps.

    Clarification: I used dGPU for highest settings.
     
  19. Meaker@Sager

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    Check your load levels/frequencies/temperatures.
     
  20. Cry Havoc

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    Hey guys. Just got this laptop on eBay for $470. Pretty geeked at the performance bump it's going to give me upgrading from an M11x R1.

    Any guides or relevant pages on this massive thread I need to be aware of?
     
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    Hi, can you tell me please where do you bought the A10 ES? Thanks! :D
     
  22. LisuPoland

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    hello guys, sorry for the language, I'm Italian
    I have a problem with the GX60, the LCD screen viewed from above presents a darker area at the bottom, such as the black area is a darker black.
    is a defect?
    all this can not be seen with the front screen, what should I do?
    it happens to you?
     
  24. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    That sounds like regular behavior from different viewing angles which is typical of TN panels. Unless its very drastic then it could be bad. But since it looks regular when viewing strait on.
     
  25. Consi Pit

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    Dear Gentlemen ( and Ladies maybe ? ) :hi2:
    Can I put DDR3 ram 1066 Mhz to msi GX60? Whether and how this will affect gaming performance?
     
  26. Antonello

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    thank you, while you are watching is completely normal
    is visible when viewing from high angle
     
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    For that you need unlocked BIOS files.
    First however, it's better to upgrade to Hitman Edition BIOS, but do that afte r you run the laptop for the first time with ES inside and then unlock the new Hitman Edition BIOS. For that you will need to bypass the ROMID check, otherwise BIOS will not install.

    I can post links to both set of files once you people get your ES pieces, so that everyone has a guide here on the forum, insead of having to send numerous PMs about that.
     
  29. raliemant

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    Great. I have the MSI GX70 and i know, you are not sure if that BIOS work well in my laptop. Someone has tested that BIOS on the GX70?
     
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    I too have a GX60 and am curious if I can install Windows 7 on it. I did not see a definitive response to Dombro's query on the same issue.
     
  31. jzoker

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    i looking for buy an gx60 because it very good price and powerful GPU
    someone can comfirm how good of gx60 heat management ? it seem big and overheat is not a problem?
    and it CPU seem too weak ( compare to intel processer),. does it matter in play older game ?
     
  32. LisuPoland

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    GX has rather good cooling, overclocked A-10 5750m 3.6 Ghz gets up to 88 C but only for a moment, so yes it's good for notebook cooling.

    As for the CPU, well getting an Enginnering Sample does help a lot, so if you can secure one A-10 5750m ES for yourself, then GX60 is a very nice competition for much more expensive GT60.
     
  33. consolero4ever

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    Hi LisuPoland! I have a gx70 3be laptop with stock 5750 cpu and reading your reviews i bought yesterday an 5750 Es cpu from the link you posted. Is a good update? Im having a lot of bottlenecking in some games like dead rising 3 (15 fps with a lot of zombies) and some parts of tomb raider in big areas. I think bios tweek is not necesary in my model to change cpu, I have the latest bios version updated and the locked options unlocked with msi enabler program. Any advice? Thanks a lot.
     
  34. LisuPoland

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    A-10 5750m ES does not eliminate bottleneck, but it reduces it often to the point where things become smooth.
    Heavy load areas like you mentioned will still have lower FPS, but it might become a lot more bareable, than what you have now.
     
  35. consolero4ever

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    Ok thanks, the 5750es is the best cpu for upgrade gx70? the overclock program is overdrive? 3.6 ghz 1.2v is the best overclock for that cpu? Can you write me a little how to upgrade and how to overclock the cpu step by step. Please i will very pleased. Thanks a lot
     
  36. LisuPoland

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    Sure, I plan to write a whole tutorial on the upgrade of GX laptops.

    But I won't have the time till this weekend.
     
  37. consolero4ever

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    Great, I will wait it. Thanks for your help.
     
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    how do i get the a10 5750 Es you say ? wait for you write whole tutorial , :v
     
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    Either the members market or ebay. There are not that many around.
     
  40. Palooh

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    waiting for it aswell, A10-5750M ES on its way from China :)
     
  41. LisuPoland

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    I will write the guide for you folks in the coming days.

    If you however have some detailed questions about ES, then PM :)
     
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    Hello everyone -

    First, wanted to say, apologies if this topic has already been covered. With 405 pages in the GX60 owners thread, and not knowing what exactly to search for - figured it would be best to post here and hope i can get some direction...

    I have a first gen GX60 and am having huge issues when it comes to wireless connection speed. Is this a known issue? or perhaps isolated?

    I believe my wireless adapter is the issue due to some testing i have performed testing wireless through my work computer (Dell), my ipad, and my iphone. All of these devices show solid speeds, and what i would expect while my GX60 maxes out at 1mbps download speed, and 6 mpbs on upload on a 25mbps connection.

    Testing with my work computer, i am getting a steady 20mbps down, and 6mbps up. My ipad and iphone both get 25mbps down and 6mbps up.

    All tests were run using speedtest.net.



    So - question is... are there known issues with the GX60 wireless adapter? Is there a way to fix these issues?


    Thanks everyone
     
  43. Palooh

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    Heres a quote from another forum that did the trick for me:

    "If you have got AMD Catalyst Software Suite 14.4 (latest stable), it includes AMD Quick Stream which very very very affects the network connection speed.
    All you have to do is to run AMD Quick Stream and in the popup window of this application click icons to be green (disabled) or just uninstall AMD Quick Stream or even uncheck when installing AMD Catalyst Software Suite 14.4. This application reserves bandwidth for Youtube, Skype and lots of other applications to work faster with video streaming via internet.

    I have disabled in AMD Quick Stream those both options and from 2/5Mbps my network connection backs to my 60/6Mbps. And when I enabled AMD Quick Stream it slows down to 2/5Mbps again."


    I uninstalled AMD Quick Stream and my WiFi is flying again.
     
  44. edgejah

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    Sweet! I've been watching this thread for ages and was basically resigned to the A10-4600M and the choppy performance in anything open world - but price on those processors (~45US at the moment) is too good to pass up! Free shipping to boot!

    It'll be some time before the CPU arrives, so I look forward to your guide - and I thank you for the information you have provided so far!

    Just out of interest, have you given Saint's Row 3/4 a bash by any chance? Anything outdoors (I.E. most of the game!) ran like crap for me so I gave up on it.

    Thanks!
     
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    THANK YOU!!!! uninstalled it and im back to my 25mbps!
     
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    Hi people.
    I have a gx60 1ac and also i am waiting for a 5750m es to upgrade but meanwhine i noticed that came out another catalyst version, 14.9 that i already try
    and finally could i say that the mantle is working on BF4 without any tricks like disable the igpu but unfortunatly for me it are braking like a hell .
    Can anyone trying and tell me if the problem is only mine or if is general?? Could be only my problem of configurations.
    Thanks

    Performance with last drivers, turbo forced at 3.2 AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - AMD A10-5750M,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16FK
     
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    What sort of issues are you having?
     
  48. migueltv50

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    Hi, the game dont run smoths as in directx 11 mode, with the mante enabled have good fps but it are constantly dropping here an there etc...
    The image have freezes.
     
  49. LisuPoland

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    It's the problem with the game itself.
    BF4 has bad Mantle support.
     
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    Fifa15's performance is very bad on a GX70.
     
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