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Yeah it's not worth the hassle. Ram overclocking is a headache with all the secondary timings.

Going from 2666 cl19 to 3200 cl18 only gave 1-3 more fps in games. Far cry 5 gave 5 more frames but its known to scale expecially well with faster ram so that's an exception rather than the norm.

 

This was my experience, I noticed it change scores a lot more than actual performance

 

QUICK Q, repasted Gelid but purchased LM.

Should I use kryonaut on the GPU and LM only on CPU or LM on both?

 

HI guys has anyone heard or experienced this melting keyboard issues i've seen commented on some discussion boards or forums but i've never read up on it nor talked to someone who has experienced this?

 

The keyboard keys would melt when countering high heat such as heat gun, or hair dryer. It's best to keep it away from any heat sources. It's less likely to happen from normal use, but if it did then please go ahead and contact MSI support team for warranty repair.

 

I dont have this issue, someone said somethinglike that as the keyboards were failing due to heat...have you encountered anything like failure due to heat issues?NOt really melted keys thought its not what i meant, not literally

 

We have not, but sometimes some customers would contact MSI directly for warranty instead of resellers.

 

The heat from the NVME is directly being transferred to the keyboard and thanks to its design, its killing of the Green LEDs one by one. Only way to solve this is by controlling the heat from the SSD. I think @hackness had suggested throttling the power to the SSD.

 

Something like heatsinks?the names I have came with that small heat spreader under the sticker but if I can get the temps lower I’m all for it


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Also what temps U recall are hot mine don’t pass 50 degrees most time stay under 46 I just game don’t really do high intensive transfers


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You'll get more improvements with LM on the CPU than the GPU.

 

Mine is running too cold!

 

that during a test or idle?

 

Also what program is that?

 

My sbarent rocket drives have a small heat spreader under the sticker will this work with them?

 

idle... this is during testing

Hard Disk Sentinel

My Samsung 970 EVO also has a small heat spreader sticker, so it wouldn't interfere with spacing I put thermal pad on the back side only on the controller area. Like this:



If I put more it would be uneven. So after the thermal pad I have the bands wrap around, I guess some people can use thermal tape and whatnot to keep the copper heatsink on there. I think these are 1.5mm thermal grizzly minus 8. Then on the copper heatsink side I have 0.8mm thermal pads that came with the kit. That one I put it on the entire pcb so the controller can keep the nand warm. Remember controller likes being cold, nand likes being warm so sharing is caring Don't mind the picture, I actually cut the thermal pad to fit.

 

Thanks..gonna order those..mine sit 28-29 idle...but go all the way to 50 under benchmarks....guess the mobo is coming out again!!

 

I saw what hackness suggested but my ssds just loose too much...ill keep that setting for battery life but on AC ill keep them at 100 and buy those copper heatsinks

 

Looks great for SSD mod, how thick is the copper shim?

 

I remember someone posting this before and i forgot to order them before i upgraded my drives...bad on me...i shouldve done this wehni repasted and installed my 2 drives...oh well....ordered them already so ill wait

 

If you are running in Sata mode, you probably don't need to do much modding to prevent the RGB keys from failing because the maximum temperature is at somewhere like 50C.

But if you are running SSD in NVME mode and saw 70~80C on your SSD, it might be better to limit the power level of the SSD to reduce the heat to less than 60C to lower the chance of killing the RGB light.

Usually there are 3 modes, at least for Samsung SSD, Full power, 1/3 of the power, 1/10 of the power.

1/3 of the power will still have the NVME SSD perform 50~80% faster than SSD in SATA mode, around 800~1000MB/s.

To limit the power level, please see this post:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...cussions-lounge.815216/page-386#post-10947017

 

As long as you're not throttling I guess you'll be fine or if it doesnt get too hot. Nand likes to be warm and controller likes to be cool so its good to share the controller heat to the nands.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XD8M43P

This is where I bought them from.

 

Guys, a Triton 500 owner here. Our laptops look almost the same, but still, I would like to know the hardware difference. Was there an in-depth compare study somewhere? I just started reading this thread and already saw something about RAM overclocking. This is possible on MSI? How? You've got unclocked bios?

 

It is important to cool PCH? Why?

 

Also, we have the same igpu, right? Intel HD Graphics 630. Where can i get drivers for it? Anything from intel won't install. Says bout hardware incompatibility. Even driver downloaded via intel update utility. Maybe MSI owners also faced such issue and have a solution?

 

Use DDU to uninstall the intel drivers and then install with your downloaded intel drivers.

 

RAM overclocking isnt really important unless you're trying to squeeze out every bit of performance and bandwidth. In games it will probably net you 1-3 or 2-5 fps on the minimum fps side YMMV as well as benchmarks if thats what you're into. Bandwidth also helps with some productivity programs etc... For MSI you can get your BIOS unlocked, do it yourself, or a hidden unlock menu.

Yes and no. No its not needed, yes it can get hot depending on what you're trying to push and in turn slow everything down. Probably not that important in this case but in most cases cooler is better than hot.

Some laptops may have a MUX switch to go between iGPU and dGPU or enabled/disabled through BIOS unless you have Optimus where both runs at the same time. When idle or low priority apps are running iGPU takes over, high priority/games/preference will go to dGPU.

You may or may not need the DCH version of the drivers if Windows keeps installing the control panels from the Microsoft Store.

 

Do you know if there is a way to reduce performance on an HP EX920 SSD? I've been having issues and I want to discard temps as the problem.

 

Not sure if it works for other brands, but you can try this guide here and see if it works, it reduces the allowed power for the SSD, since the reading and writing and 4K reading/writing are largely affected by the power, you should get a lowered temperature after applying the mod, setting comes with %, so you'll need to test which % works best for you:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...cussions-lounge.815216/page-384#post-10940302

 

What's your full speed?

Yours could be in SATA mode, if it is SATA mode, the temperature produced is low even on full speed.

 

Having an idle fan issue with the gs65 2060/32gb/9750h...

Updated the BIOS and EC firmware to the latest versions on MSI website. After updating I noticed the fans are locked at 2700RPM even with temps at 35-45 C... I initially updated the bios a few days back then today updated the EC firmware, but didn't notice the idle fan noise till today..

Edit:
16Q4EMS1.104 AND E16Q4IMS.10A fix the issue...you need both the bios and the EC firmware on these two versions...Idling at 1900rpm now

 

is this enough or too little?

 

couldn't del...

 

Quantity wise its ok, a little on the high side but shouldnt be a problem.

What im worried about is your barrier. Some parts look too thick and may cause uneven heatsink pressure. Whats the temperature diference between the hottest and coolest cores when running a cpu stress test?

 

cpu reaches 98C when stress test and 95C when playing games but when I play hot csgo cpu only reaches 90C and this is an improvement compared to before which reached 97C

(all the tests I did with a maximum fan)

 

God damn that seems waaay too hot. Gaming with max fans should settle in at the low 80s.

Did you do any of the advanced bios tweaks? What clocks are you running and have you undervolted?

 

Full speed is around 3k

 

That's NVME for sure

 

Agreed sabrent rocket is no joke

 

The newest offering with PCIE 4.0 is the craziest.

 

Hello,
what i must change for memory OC in bios?

 

What brand and model of memory do you have? Does it support XMP?
Can you go into "Custom profile" and list all available options?

 

2 x Samsung M471A1K43CB1-CTD

I can change only this options:

 

You have standard memory and it's running at 2666MHz therefore no adjustment is needed. Don't make any changes.

 

Guys, i've got a question about Power Limits on your laptops. Especially for Intel Core i7-8750H models. First thing first, how much you get for a multi-core score in Cinebench 20? Maximum i've got was 2900. Now to power limits. So I launch Cinebench 20 and first I've got full 3900mhz clock speed with 58W drain on CPU:

But after ~30 sec I've got only default 45W with 3500mhz:


Do you saw similar behavior on your laptops? What's that? I've installed intel XTU, was playing with sliders, but nothing helps. XTU says that after this time I'm starting getting Power Limit Throttling. What's that and why it didn't happen on previous ~30 sec? It makes no sense to me.


I'm on Acer Triton 500 (similar to MSI Stealth), in NV 2080 G-Sync mode, with 180W brick btw.

 

There are two power limiting conditions in place for the 8750h. The first power limit (PL1), which is at 45W is the long duration power limit. The processor can technically sustain 45W continuously given that it is not over heating. The second power limit (PL2) is a short duration power limit of 90W with a window of 28 seconds. In a layman version, It basically means that the CPU is allowed to use power upto 90W in a short window of 28 seconds.
The CPU by itself is not capable of running at 3.9GHz all cores within 45W when it is fully loaded. In case of Cinebench20, the loading is such that it requires 58W in your system (as you indicated). Therefore, after the set 28 seconds, it hits power limit since the new power limit is at 45W and therefore downclocks the processor to 3.5GHz. All the above numbers - PL1, PL2 and the time window are user configurable using XTU. However, I suggest you don't play around with these settings unless you understand these numbers completely.

Also, out of curiosity, what temperatures do you see on the CPU when running Cinebench20? 2900 is a very respectable score for i7-8750h.
Also, have you undervolted?

 

I now have Samsung B-dies.

But when I had my Samsung C-dies I had the following:

This is for 3200@CL18-18-18-38-15000-500-2T

Memory Reference Clock [133] -> [133]
Memory Ratio [10] -> [12]
tCL 19 -> 18
tRCD/tRP 19 -> 18
tRAS 43 -> 38
tREFI 10400 -> 15000
tRFC 457 -> 500
Memory Voltage [1.20V] -> [1.35V]

I may have tweaked uncore (SA) to +50mV to boot up

*** YMMV *** Do at your own risk ***

With memory overclocking its a lot of testing for stability so if you want higher/lower you have to do that at your own time. Play games, use benchmarks, use stability software.

I personally have:
https://www.karhusoftware.com/ramtest/

As my memory tester as its been solid for me, you can have hours of or overnight testing but this seems to be really good at finding unstable RAM. The worst that "could" happen with RAM overclock testing is system corruption. Why? Because if there is bad data and it saves it from the RAM to the drive it can have potential system corruptions hence the "do it at your own risk". If it doesn't boot then back down the settings or reset CMOS etc...

 

Yes i've got undervolt for -0.145v, on 58W i've got 85C and then it dropd to ~75 when it's 45W

Sadly, changing values in Intel XTU doesn't help. Despite I set 120sec for short turbo boost I still go to 45W after 28sec.

 

Those are some really good temps. Are you running liquid metal or stock thermal paste?
I would try changing the PL1 of 45W to 50W to begin with. Check how stable the system runs and then slowly up from there. I think a lot of systems implement 60W PL1 for CPU only load. But be very careful and monitor temps continuously.