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    *** The Official MSI GE75 Raider Owners and Discussions Lounge ***

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  1. greninga

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    Mine is like 10 50 63 75 85 100
     
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    is this both for CPU and GPU?
     
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    Yes
     
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    Anyone updated their bios and ec firmware?
    Currently still on stock firmware using the 2080 version. Thinking of updating them.

    How does it run? Is it stable or does it have any impact on games?

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
     
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    does anyone know how to raise power limit on the ge75 8se rtx 2060? i have repasted it and when gaming i get 2060mhz on core clock when gaming and temps are hovering around 70c but i am looking to get them down with lm but i want to know how to raise the voltage because it says that i am hitting voltage limit on the card
     
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    If you have the 8SG and still on the stock bios, you will want to upgrade your bios and firmware. Just follow the instructions completely including clearing the EC using the button on the MB accessed via the bottom of your laptop using a paper clip. You will see a performance boost from the stock bios since the stock bios was not allowing the CPU to stay in boost as long as later bios revisions. I have both the latest bios and firmware and it runs stable and fine as just as fast as some of the earlier bios revisions if not slightly more performance.

    Please note; I have not done any other upgrades including faster ram, repasted, etc. The only thing I use is throttlestop to undervolt the CPU/cache. So if you have added faster ram or anything, I can not be sure how the new bios and firmware will affect that.
     
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    A very detailed explanations, thank you

    I have the 9SG version, so is it best to update my firmware?
    I've done the repasting using TG Kryonout, getting good temps while playing Witcher 3, RDR2 and other games that are quite heavy (all maxed out) never gotten the GPU past 75°C and CPU maxed out at 85°C with this notebook and I'm happy with it.

    But for the dragon center latest update have disabled my notebook's "Battery Master Control" Settings where you could set the battery charge level to 60% maxed. That's why I'm thinking of updating my bios and ec firmware (but scared that it will have a negative impact on my gaming experience).

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
     
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  8. Porter

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    I had my battery "stuck" at 80% when I wanted to lower and raise it when needed but couldn't because the dragon center battery options no longer worked. I believe this is the thing I found that worked for me, let me know if it doesn't work for you and I can double check if this was the exact service I enabled as I am not at my MSI machine now and can't double check it:

    The issue was that the Micro Star SCM service was disabled, which prevented the battery calibration, and presumably other Dragon features, from working. To fix this issue, simply go to your Microsoft services (type in services in search bar), then set Micro Star SCM to manual, then click apply to keep the change. Remember to start the service or else it will not work.

    It appears that windows update periodically disable MSI services, so this issue may pop up from time to time. The solution should be the same.
     
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    Did you use any kind of utility to cap the battery charge level at 80%?
     
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    Just the dragon center app, which is working again after enabling that service. I lowered it to the lowest setting now since I rarely use it on battery.
     
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    Can we use dragon center and thermal stop at the same time. I thought there was a problem if you use them together.
     
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    You can try but I believe it's not recommended since some functions may run into conflicts.
     
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    What I do since I use ThrottleStop is leave dragon center installed, but I don't have it auto start up. I only run it when I want to change the battery charge % or want the USB lights to work. I don't really use it for anything else. I use MSI Silent Option program to do my custom fan curves.
     
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    My pleasure. I have the 8SG so you probably have at least the first bios revision I did which I saw as much as 10% improvement (CPU power limit boost). But I do not really think updating is going to hurt. Anyone else with a 9sg might be able to chime in.
     
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    I use both and have not run into any conflicts.... at least nothing that jumps out at me.
     
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    The only tip in this case is that these CPUs are memory speed sensitive, when I undervolted and used the wattage trick I got a little performance bump but when I added the ram oc to 3470mhz I noticed that my frame rate was much much more stable and the low 1% were not even close to what they were before
     
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    That's good, the only concern is that if a particular feature offered both software, not sure what would be the side effect on that but it shouldn't be anything severe.
     
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    I am having an issue with very High Ram usage and cpu usage with with openautmate wrapper its from nvidia does anyone have a clue to why this is happening?
     
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    Did you meant this?
    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/openautomate/
     
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    It reaches over 6 gbs of ram and close to 20% cpu I'm not understanding why.
     
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    Hello guys, after updating BIOS, do we need to reapply the bios mod or is it saved?
     
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    If you updated the BIOS from MSI website then you lost the special features provided by the modded BIOS. A modded BIOS itself is a special BIOS modified from a stock BIOS so if you want to retain these special features and capabilities offered by it then you shouldn't flash to the official BIOS.
     
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    Got it, this depends on the structure of new BIOS whether if it's revised or not versus previous version. You know how sometimes after a BIOS update you get checksum mismatch and all settings are reverted back to factory defaults?
    Therefore, you should be prepared that you will need to reapply the settings after a BIOS update. :)
     
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    I have temperature problem for sometime. I undervolted, it did not help much. Recently it got worse. I contacted regional msi service here and asked if it was ok to repaste without voiding warranty. Their answer was a firm no. They claimed opening and repasting voids warranty, even told me that warranty do not allow anything other than msi paste.

    The next day i saw 99 C in civ6, which is ridiculous. I contacted msi global support and they told repasting do not void warranty if we do not damage anything.

    Should i now ignore local msi service and repaste or wait until my mainboard burns.
     
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    You can repaste without voiding warranty unless physical damage has been inflicted while doing it.
    This has been a known fact for many years so not sure why they said that. Which country are you at?
     
  28. Orhan Capas

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    Romania
     
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    It is not that tight on the warranty, see below. Does your unit have a warranty sticker on it?
    https://www.msi.com/page/warranty
     
  30. Orhan Capas

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    I have a factory seal. I decided to go for repasting and ordered kryonaut. If I get any problems that I should claim warranty later for something else and they deny it, I am prepared to go wild about it. These jackals will not find an obedient sheep.

    MSI is rather new in this country. It was very hard to find any msi laptop just 5 years ago. I am guessing these people do not know well how their boss works
     
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    Keep the email that you got from MSI headquarter if that's where you got the permission from.
    If they do deny you for service then you can present it to them. But as far as I know, other regions don't have this issue anymore.
     
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    Make sure you get the proper tools to open the back cover... Don't use excessive force to open its very fragile... Also with the heatsink be very gentle with it to avoid bind it.. and take all the time you need.
     
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    I have tried 4 thermal pastes in this laptop:

    - Kryonaut
    - Coolermaster Mastergel Maker
    - Phobya Nanogrease
    - IC Diamond

    None of them except IC Diamond lasted more than a few days/weeks: CPU temps were fine the first days but after a while, they began to increase and reached 90c+ when gaming.

    IC Diamond is giving me 83c max and looks like it's gonna last forever.

    If you have problems with your regular paste I recommend that one based on my experience.
     
  34. darsh79n1

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    1st i believe you about the paste recommendation... But i think the only effective solution to this beast is undervolt the cpu and gpu.. I don't doubt you it might worked with you fine.
     
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    Hi everybody, I have the GE 75 I7-9750H and 2080, modified my laptop bottom cover and bought an
    Enhance GX-C1 Laptop Cooling Stand

    It seems the cooling pad is not helping, has somebody tried with the same set up as mine different cooling stands? I think the small fans by blowing on the internal fans may prevent them from working efficiently.
    Any ideas ? thanks
     
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    Has anyone tried the display overdrive setting in the new dragon center?

    This is what i get on my GS75 (which uses the same panel as the GE75 iirc)

    OFF
    Overdrive OFF.jpeg

    ON
    Overdrive ON.jpeg
     
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    no i deleted the DC for ever from my windows ... it really bad app and make lots of troubles
     
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    I never had any significant problems using Dragon center. The app is a bit buggy when setting battery charge limit but that's it.

    What problems did you have?
     
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    Zero compatibility with msi afterburner and throttlestop... I had to do full clean windows installation without DC app... System running smoothly and extremely stable... Before i got loads of blue screens and freezes during gaming... Seriously bad app
     
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    All i need now is substitute battery lifespan app to keep the battery below 60%...or is there any way to stop it from bios settings?
     
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    I use both throttlestop and MSI afterburner as well. No issues. Turbo mode applies a pre-overclock so it will mess with afterburner, I use sport mode.

    And no, I don't know any app that has control of the max battery charge level.
     
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    I really don't know... But since i bought the laptop always got serious issues crashing and blue screens even fresh original windows installation... The last time i did not install DC the laptop runs like butterfly... I searched about it and huge complains about DC
     
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    I've read all the complaints yet never had any myself.

    Newer versions work better perhaps
     
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    the problem started with the newer version as well
     
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    Msi afterburner and throttlestop works well together.
     
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    I've use DC with throttlestop and afterburner as well with no problems that I can tell. No blue screens unless of course I go to low of an under-volt.
     
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    Hey Folks!

    G-sync works on the HDMI output.

    Probably interesting for some, I just tested the HDMI output on an LG OLED C9 TV, and G-sync shows up in NVidia Control Panel and shows the TV as a G-sync compatible display with all the settings and bells and whistles. So it seems that the HDMI out is also connected to the Nvidia card (it says so in the display settings in Windows also).

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/lg-gsync-compatible-hdmi-big-screen-gaming/
     
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    Good to know, thank you for sharing. :)
     
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    Ty guys... Yes it seems nvidia driver make conflicts after recent update... Uninstalled it and reinstall clean setup and now it works good
     
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