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Could you provide the followings:

1. What's the version of your NVIDIA driver?
2. Do you have Steam installed?
3. Do you have MSI Afterburner installed?

 

Steam installed, but not running on startup, always have it closed if I am not gaming.
Disabled hardware acc. in chrome.

No MSI burner installed.

I get this all the time on several tabs in chrome. This forum and Facebook of just a few.


I am on 67% battery now and it says 1 hour and 40 minute left on battery...
If I open HWmonitor the led turns orange next to the PWR button



The drivers I have installed (the latest).

 

I get tabs crashing "oh snap" in chrome every other second now........... Like wth, same chrome extensions I have been running for years on different computers, never had any issues. Never happened with the AC connector plugged in since I got it a few days ago. First happened now on battery

 

Yes, except mine appeared after an RMA... The service-point changed the bezel and back cover around the screen.

 

Try the followings:

1. Enable GPU activity tray icon to see if anything is using the dGPU.
2. Add this to NVIDIA control panel and set it to iGPU: \Steam\bin\cef\cef.win7x64\steamwebhelper.exe
3. Make sure neither of the NVIDIA or AMD GPU is ticked in ThrottleStop's Option page.
4. If the orange light still shows after you did that, terminate programs shown in tray icon one by one to determine which is causing the dGPU to wake.
5. If it doesn't work, open up the Task Manager and look to the GPU column, see if anything shows GPU 1 - 3D, that'd be the process causing it, however you have to be patient and look at the column for at least 2 full minutes.

 

Did just like you said

This one is going up and down all the time. Also weird chrome says GPU activity, because Chrome is also set to integrated graphics in Nvidia control panel.
The tray icon is empty and still orange light :/

 

Do you see anything that says GPU 1 - 3D on the next column? The one labeled GPU engine.

 

Try this for the Chrome high CPU usage:

Block the Chrome Software Reporter Tool

• Navigate to: C:\Users\Your Computer Usrername\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data (Make sure you have hidden files to be shown in File Explorer Options)
• Right-click on the folder SwReporter and select Properties from the menu.
• Switch to the Security tab.
• Select Advanced on the page that opens.
• Click on "Disable inheritance" and select "remove all inherited permissions from this object."
• Select apply and in the Windows Security prompt "yes."
• Select Ok
• Select Ok again.

 

Oh sorry I missed that




Do you have any idea why my chrome tabs keep crashing "oh snap"? I have cleaned chrome, removed unnecessary extensions, restarted, checked drivers. It's freezing/lagging and crashing constantly.

 

wow! look at all those garbage Windows Store apps running in the background!!

Go to PC Settings > Privacy > Background Apps, and turn off all the ones you don't need running all the time in the background.

This is mine, but you won't see much apps as I've uninstalled them all

 

You might want to click on the GPU engine column to sort it

As for freezing and lagging even with clean install, there are a lot of reasons, first one is because of optimus waking the dGPU when you open up Chrome, second one might be that your RAM controller isn't stable. For that you need to +100mV~+300mV to system agent's offset voltage using ThrottleStop.

If you can't fine any GPU 1 - 3D in the column.

You can take a look and try this one here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...cussions-lounge.815216/page-256#post-10812428

This list has a higher privilege than the NVIDIA control panel, it's more like the master list of the GPU assigner, the NVIDIA driver will not overwrite it even clean installed, you can try it out.

 

Hey thanks for the help man No idea if it works. I did what you mentioned earlier about removing the folder, I did. And then chrome refused to open. I tried re-install 3 times but chrome refused to open hahah

I removed and cleaned it with Revo and now I am back with chrome re-installed. So let's see if it keeps crashing. I turned off all background data except windows mail

 

alt +f2 on left side
ctrl+shift on right side
simultaneously

Full guide to unlock the BIOS -> http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-cmos-and-prevent-common-issues.812372/page-8

 

Notsure about this, but are 417.xx Geforce drivers compatible with MSI GS65 ? I think I saw some people telling that Optimus does only work properly with drivers mentionned in the MSI support website, which are the 398.35 version..

 

I set all apps to power saving in Display Graphics settings as suggested. Also set System Agent offset Voltage to +120mv.

Still getting oh snap crashes, not every second now, but still very often.

Only have my study reading program and chrome open with white light on pwr button. And it says 4-5 hours battery time. If I open HWmonitor it turns orange and 1.19 hour battery haha


It's phenomenal to game on, great cooling, awesome keyboard. But build quality and power management ain't cutting it for me :/ Hope to see some nice RTX laptops arriving soon. I have until 23 February to ship it back.

 

Just as a reminder, the orange led is because you are using the nvidia GPU. And this is being triggered by using HWmonitor, so don't use it if you don't need to, otherwise you will keep the dGPU awake and drain the battery much faster.

when I have a bit more free time I will check about the oh snap crashes.

 

After RMA to address heating issues, my unit is scheduled for delivery today. Please, please, please be right! Again, if you missed it, I had 3 of the 6 cores reaching 95C, always the same 3 cores and after undervolt, they were still throttling while the other 3 cores were in the 70s under stress testing using AIDA, so I sent it in for repair (clearly the heat sink and processor were not making proper contact, I'm afraid they just re-pasted which I already did and will not solve the problem. Might get me from 95 to 90 but I want the 70s I see on the other 3 cores). I'll know soon what they did and if it helped. Cross your fingers. If its not solved I may just return the unit which would suck cause I got a great deal and would not be able to replace it. Ugh. Update soon.

 

How long did it take? Can you call them to get a report?

 

They include the report with the return shipment, went I did the RMA this was stated. The repair was "NXRCD-SWAP New CPU / VGA Thermal Module & Update BIOS+EC. Tested ALL Pass" They did not state how they tested or what all pass means. Not sure why they ran a BIOS update as I was already up to date.
I shipped it on 1/18, it was received and repaired the same day, 1/25, and shipped back via 2-day Fedex.

OK, about to get off this laptop and get to work testing the repair. I'm assuming if they changed the thermal module that they re-pasted as well although its not stated.

 

So, any thoughts on whether you can change a thermal module and NOT re-paste. Is that even an option? Thought about contacting them and asking.

 

^^^I called, didn't confirm with actual repair person but person on phone agreed they must have done a re-paste. One other thing. They did re-install the OS, ugh, really didn't need to do that. I do have a backup I made. Trying to decide if I should install the backup or start anew. I spent a week on tweaks/driver updates, etc. and would hate to do them all again. I guess I will first run a stress test then decide how to move forward.

 

Dude, I didn't say remove the folder, I said simply to revoke its secvrity access from any group

If you followed the instructions in my post earlier, you would end up with this:

 

HWmonitor, CPU-Z, GPU-Z, MSI Afterburner, GPU option in the ThrottleStop do wake the dGPU.

HWINFO64 doesn't if you use only the sensor status.

My GPU OC plus monitoring combination was NVIDIA inspector (Only on start up) + HWINFO64.

Yes, up to the latest are all compatible. However, you must not use MSI Afterburner and you also need to set steamwebhelper.exe to use iGPU.

steamwebhelper.exe is located at /Steam/bin/cef/cef.win7x64/steamwebhelper.exe

You can try this method, set once and you can forget it.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...cussions-lounge.815216/page-256#post-10812428

 

I installed on my machine to test if my desk monitor works with compatible G-Sync. They are working flawless and allowing Optimus to switch when Nvidia is not needed.

 

How many external monitors can you use on the gs65? HDMI + mDP + Thunderbolt? (And the laptop monitor itself?)

 

Yes you can have 3 external monitors output + laptop display all at once.

 

Ok now I notice that the power led is always orange, LOL

 

Quick question, can you brick your device by playing with memory timers?

For instance if I edit the BIOS and its unstable will it block me from going back into the BIOS to reset it? Similar to UV from within BIOS.

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Press the power button and hold for 45 seconds to shutdown will reset the RAM settings (Including RAM voltage) back to default.

To stabilize the RAM Controller at high RAM frequency, you'll need to add offset of +250~350 mV to System Agent in ThrottleStop and also in the BIOS, it's called Uncore in the BIOS under the overclock menu, it must be done for the laptop to boot successfully at 3000+MHz.

I got mine to 3467MHz @ 1.30V

However, there's always a risk doing this.

 

Wow, I didn't know msi allowed you to overclock the ram on laptops. What timings did you use?

Even if they could, wouldn't the ram run very hot after overclocking?

 

Mind posting your Firestrike with this?

I tried your voltage curve but got similar results to mine just using slider +215/+300 no curve modification.

I know the new version lets you adjust for values below .800

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It'll run a little hotter.

Mine has been running for 3 months this way already, no problem so far.

I was using +225/+800 with no touch to the voltage cure at the time when running FS.

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/16859554

Haven't tried the new version yet, like 0.625 is also adjustable?

 

0.700 is lowest.

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This opens up many opportunities, time to have some fun again.

 

This is the beta version with OC Scanner function.

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I've tried the beta 12, however, still no use, because at +225/+800 it's going lower than 0.700V

And again it still wakes the dGPU.

Would have to run and kill using Task Scheduler on startup & suspension if you still want Optimus to function normally.

I'll probably try that if Unwinder releases a version that allows you to go down to 0.625V.

 

Ownordisown is currently reviewing one of the other MSI RTX laptops live on twitch right now.


https://m.twitch.tv/ownordisown

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Hey guys,
If you're curious to see how a 2018 GS65 with a 1070 Max-Q does VS a 2019 GS65 with 2080 Max-Q, here you go!

https://www.theeverydayenthusiast.com/home/comparison-2018-gs65-vs-2019-gs65

 

Well done, thank you.

 

For those of you who repasted, what did you do about the thicker blue thermal paste on the three chokes and smaller components towards the bottom of the board?

I just replaced it with the MX-4 I was using to do my repaste. Couldn’t find anything that others had done.

 

If you were to do a repaste job you should always clean the existing one without mixing both.

 

Yes I’m aware. I didn’t mix them (and I’m not really sure where you got that assumption?)

I’m just asking what people did with that specific blue paste, as I was not expecting paste to be there (I was just expecting pads). I just cleaned it off and put MX-4.

 

I wasn't assuming but was trying to clarify. Also, did you mean blue paste or blue pads?

 

Paste a white/baby blue colour. It was still quite wet.

If you look at one of the full heatsink assembly’s new on eBay, the two blue lines of paste bellow the gpu.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.ca/ulk/itm/153224427703

 

Thanks for confirming, that's thermal pads.

 

Really? I’ve never seen a pad so goopy, it was exactly like paste.

At any rate, is it being replaced with paste fine?

 

That's how they are when fresh, and it's not recommended to replace it with thermal compound. You can purchase those thermal pads everywhere.
I apologize if you were offended by my previous statement on "If you were to do a repaste job you should always clean the existing one without mixing both." since I thought you wanted to remove existing thermal paste that is possibly mixed with other things. I would like to assure you that my tone was plain and didn't mean to imply anything else. Sorry about that.

I understand that you were offended because the stuff I say may be basic even though you could be an advanced user however I do not know that, this is why I have to say it in case you aren't. But if you were novice then at least that can help you to achieve your goal better. Thanks for your understanding.

 

Picked one of the 1070 MQ models up for fairly cheap...
Put an EX920 1TB SSD and some HyperX 2666 ram it and enabled XMP, repasted it, flashed a Svet BIOS and did some tinkering, then locked down the multiplier to 39x in throttlestop while on AC, as well as +200Mhz/650Mhz on the GPU on AC. Fresh install to remove all the MSI junk too. Back of the laptop is propped up on an engineering scale (they work perfectly as adhoc laptop stands!).

Getting:
5381 Timespy - https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/33099090?
14286 Firestrike - https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/33099308?

Seeing a max CPU temp of 85C stressing as much as I can, but often sitting around 70C gaming, with GPU hitting maybe 70C max stress. Idling I get down into the 20C range.

I must say, pretty awesome for such a slim laptop. My 17R4 ran hotter than this...

I am debating picking up an RTX laptop, but from what I see paying an extra $1800 CAD over what I got my GS65 for will yield very little return.

I wish more gaming laptops existed in the mid size form factor that weren't hideous. I don't really need the thinness of the GS65, but I also don't want to lug a 51M around... I would like a non Max-Q card and comparable thermals though...

 

That was definitely thermal paste for me. I repasted it.

In fact the paste was all in between the components.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MSILaptops...al_pad_replacement/?utm_source=reddit-android

This is what I found when I opened my GS65.


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Greetings,

Which dGPU drivers you guys use? The MSI provided ones or the nVidia latest?