***The Official MSI GT72 Dominator Pro (GTX-980M) Owner?s Lounge***

You need a minimum 3.6Ghz cup where my i7 5700hq is only 2.7Ghz.

 

Your boost clock is 3.5ghz so you should be good, that's the CPU I have in my GT72, granted I have no yet played MGS, I will give it a try but I doubt it will give any problems. I would check in your nvidia control panel and make sure that MGS is set to use your dedicated GPU

 

I take that back, it's only 2.5 cpu. I have the MSI GT72 2QD.

 

Have you heard of Turbo Boost???

The CPU isn't running at 2.5Ghz when you're gaming sir.

 

If you could check out the game for me that would be great. All I did was look at canyourunit.com to see if it would run. Thanks for your time and patience with me.

 

Canyourunit is always off on these things. I would never trust them as a sole source for determining if you can run a game or not. They said my desktop cannot run Farcry 4 some time ago when it runs it fine with everything maxed out.

 

Yea MGS is not an intensive game at all, I would not worry about it it's been designed with the PS4 in mind which is basically like a lower end 7000 series AMD GPU. Your computer should run it very well in excess of 80 fps most likely maxed out.

 

If you just got the GE72 then you have the GTX 960-970M right, those cards will be fine to run MGS.

 

Don't use Windows 10.

 

It could be an issue with the install media or copy of the file.

 

I can play with this laptop csgo withou gsync at 75hz or overclock to 100hz? Thanks

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Yes, now I'm sure what the issue was (is) of the very slow Windows 10 upgrade:

After upgrade from Win 8.1 home to Win 10 home (which took hours) I wanted to upgrade from Win 10 home to Win 10 Pro.
In this case, the laptop can be used during setup.

It got to 100%, but stayed there for hours.

Using TaskManager I could see that Windows Update downloads at a crawling speed. It seems capped at server side.
So the 100% indication on the upgrade window is actually wrong. The setup was still in download / install phase.

The small cab files saved on drive are small, but take very long to download. In the end Win 10 Pro installed and all is fine.

So it has nothing to do with SSD or issues on my side. It is Windows update which caps the download speed to ridiculous level.
During setup I could use the computer to download stuff at full speed.

 

If you follow the link to notebookcheck you will see that MGS should easily run with a GT72

http://www.notebookcheck.com/Metal-Gear-Solid-V-Notebook-Benchmarks.149562.0.html

 

I can confirm that MGSV runs perfectly at ultra setting on my GT72 QD with G-Sync. The only game I got problem so far is Skyrim, there was a really bad indoor microshutting. I tried various mod, enb to fix the problem, but none of them works... In the end I just gave up...

 

So it looks like there is a GT72S model now that comes with a PCIe m.2 raid array and a panel that's guaranteed to run at 75Hz.
http://event.msi.com/nb/2015/skl/global/

 

Well seems that my GT72 Dominator pro suddenly started to suffer Wirelesses performance. Nothing was changed or done , I was running W10 for a month or so now but suddenly as of few days ago the Wirelesses just doesn't work as it did before . Huge pings , losing connection , very erratic download / upload speeds . I reinstalled the Killer drivers several time and several versions including old one for W8 but it just didn't go well. Finally I completely reinstalled W10 and on a fresh system again ..the same problem . Then I used an external USB CISCO N dongle that I had form before and everything went to normal again . Can it be that the Wireless part in the Network device inside is gone broke or faulty some how ???? Cant it be exchanged ????

 

Did it maybe update the drivers in the background? Check your update logs.

 

Unfortunately not , few security updates and the only hardware that was updated by Windows is the touch pad . It drives me crazy ...the connection over the dongle works perfectly fine while its a complete mess over Killer Wirelesses . One thing I will try is to install driver only without he Killer suite features the only thing that drives me mad is why the hack now ? everything was perfectly good and suddenly booom!!! ..works like crap .

 

try turning g-sync off, apparently skyrim is one of those games that doesn't like it

 

You could try just a re-install to see if it's just one of those things.

 

can someone confirm that the newer gt72 have no Optimus, The specs in Gentech pc show they have Optimus!

 

None of the GT72's old or new have Optimus. You have to change between graphic cards manually via a button and reset.

 

I know nothing has been announced on pricing yet, but anybody care to speculate on how much the Skylake GT72's might cost compared to the current generation of devices?

Does a model refresh usually result in a price increase with MSI?

 

Now I have my GT72 up and running with Windows 10, I'm now on changing the usage experience to fit my needs.

On my previous Dell XPS17 system, when I closed the lid it went to sleep-mode.
When I opened the lid, the machine automatically started and presented the desktop immediately.

Now on the new system, when opening the lid, I first have to press the power button to start. It takes a bit longer before the desktop is presented (first MSI logo is displayed, a progress icon is shown and afterwards the desktop is presented).

It feels that my Dell was much faster.

Is it possible to start the GT72 the same way by just opening the lid?
Is the sleep mode in Win7 really faster compared to sleep mode in Win10?

 

Have a look at your power settings. They have behavior options in there for the power button etc.

 

I know, but there is no option to define the lid open action, only set what has to be done on closing the lid.
So what I read on other places, it should be made available by the manufacturer (driver) to enable an option in Windows.

Question then: than anyone here configured Windows in any way so that when opening the lid the laptop comes automatically out from sleep?
(and if so, what are the settings?)

 

Already on sale here.

GT72S-6QE
i7-6820HK
17.3" 1920*1080
8GBx2 DDR4
128GB SSD PCIE, 1TB 7200rpm
BD Writer
GTX980m 8GB DDR5
Web Cam FHD
6x USB3, 1xtype-C
HDMI
SD
9-Cell Battery
W10
3.78kg
USD3000

GT72-6QD
i7-6700HQ
17.3" 1920*1080
8GBx1 DDR4
1TB 7200rpm
BD Writer
GTX970m 3GB DDR5
Web Cam FHD
6x USB3, 1xtype-C
HDMI
SD
9-Cell Battery
W10
3.78kg
USD2200


As prices here are higher than say in the states, for comparison

PX60 2QD
i7-5700HQ
15.6", 1920*1080
8GBx1 DDR3L
1TB HDD
GTX950m 2GB DDR5
Web Cam FHD
3x USB3
HDMI
SD
802.11ac
6-Cell Battery
W8.1 Pro
2.1kg
USD1300

 

Thanks. That first model would do me fine, but I'm guessing it's going to retail at a few hundred pounds over my limit of £2000, which means I'll probably just end up settling for a Broadwell edition, which hopefully might be slightly reduced next month.

 

Well that's pretty close to GBP2000 and prices here are generally on the higher side. Different options will vary the final price.

You can see some performance of the i7-6820HK here. Running Cinebench at 4.2GHz sees thermal throttling kicking in at about 17 seconds into the bench. Cooling looks like it's going to be a challenge with overclocking, as expected.

Note that the laptop being used looks very much like the MSI.

 

I need your honest advise.

I am in Canada and looking to get a G72 but has a tight budget of not more than $2000 cad (1500 USD - thank you Oil... ).
Fortunately, Amazon.ca is offering two g72 systems within my budget; One with 980m but No G-Sync. The other is cheaper, has the glorious G-Sync,, but comes with a 970m....

Which one should I sacrifice up, the better performance of 980m or the better screen/refresh/smoothness of G-sync display ?

 

my vote goes for 980m

 

980 for me too, you will regret taking the 970 when you have to turn down the eyecandy to get the smoothness anyway

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I am also inclined towards your opinion.
however, getting the non-Gsync 980m version wont allow for a G sync upgrade in the future, even if I install the same IPS screen, since the feature is locked with the GPU / bios. any updates on that?

 

It's interesting how G-sync will react to future card upgrades too, I wonder how much having it would impact the ability to have an AMD card for instance.

 

problem is that I was spoiled by the 120hz screen in my last clevo (Oh, I had the budget in those days). I am afraid that the effect of screen tearing may be bit too pronounced for me after the switch. Anyway I've decided to wait. lets see what the future holds. unless the budget pits further and I end up with one of those chrome books

 

You can overclock the display too.

 

I would actually disagree with all the people here that say the 980m, i would take the g-sync option, knowing that g sync will be on the laptop, and when the next generation of gpu's arrive as promised by msi you can upgrade the GPU yourself. The 970m is perfectly fine for gaming in the current day, and potentially a 1080m upgrade in the future will make the laptop a beast machine.

 

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I agree with that as well. Take the G-Sync 970m. It's more than enough for a 1080p resolution screen. Upgrade later when the next gen. MXM GPUs are released.

 

980m in my opinion... A laptop display, good or bad, will always be a laptop display... If you want perfect image, hook the laptop up to an external monitor!

 

Hi all, im new here, i own a msi gt72 980m with i7- 5700hq. I have a small problem, whenever i play cs go, i randomly get a cpu crash, it could be 15 min into the game , or i could play like 30h of game without a crash, or even crash 3 times in 1 hour. is a hardcrash, no blue screen, although sometimes i got a minidump, pointing to machine check exception.
The first month i rma it, and i got a new replacment unit, everything fine, and from nothing, everything starter again. it never happened in another games. It happened in windows 8.1 but also in winsdows 10, upgraded or even clean install. All drives are updated, and there is no overheating, im usualy on 63/64ºc while playing the game. Are any of u guys experiencing the same?

 

Owntec, CS:GO is a CPU intensive game, and often causes CPUs to overheat/thermally throttle, but it doesn't usually end in a CPU related crash.

Can you install hwinfo65, start with Sensors only checked, and enable logging of temps? That will let you see the progression of temperature readings throughout the gaming, rather than read it after exiting - CPU temps drop quickly.

Run CS:GO for a good period of time, but exit before crashing so you can stop the log and read the file with Excel (download a trial if needed), so you can look at the temps as they increase - also look for thermal throttling to kick in.

Are you using XTU to tune your CPU settings, or is it stock?

You shouldn't be getting OS crashes, but the game might exit, what exactly are you seeing?

There is a trick to reduce the number of cores, actually stop using Hyper-threaded cores, and that has helped people with over heating. Laptops don't usually have any CPU tweaking in their BIOS, like disabling Hyper-threading, but you can do it from the task manager in Windows.

If you are starting CS:GO from Steam, then use task manager details tab to disable the odd core's for Steam processes (do all of them for now) using right click Affinity over process name:



When you have done all the Steam processes, then start CS:GO, it should run pretty close to the same performance, but generate less heat.

If none of this works, and temps aren't high, you should work with MSI and see if they have a solution, or RMA to replace the CPU/motherboard.

Please come back and let us know how it works out

 

Guys, you are over thinking this. Always get the best GPU, never mind the Nvidia gobbledgook they feed us, G-sync is nice, but I don't have it and dual 980m's in SLI powers through the slow FPS need for G-sync, and I don't see any tearing on my laptop screen.

In a single instance where you see tearing, tune it out via reducing eye candy or ignore it, it's not worth all the fretting over. It happens, it's gone, game on.

If you want to get a 980m now without G-sync, then do it, and push any regrets out of your head later. If you can't or don't want to learn how to do that, then continue waiting, I am sure another Nvidia innovation will be announced that isn't in the G-sync version of the 980m, and you can wait for that too.

What do you want to do, wait, or game? If game, then get the 980m as it will keep fps higher than the 970m. Tune the eye candy to keep the fps up later. A little tuning effort and you won't need G-sync.

Get the laptop, start gaming, have fun

 

I usually use hwinfo64 to watch the temps both cpu and gpu, when the gaming, on csgo go, max temps it got after 1/2 hours, its about 63/64 for cpu and 64 for gpu, as i said early.

In the first model i got, i had crashs on csgo with the cpu full stock or with undervolt, the undervolt was stable with everything i throw at it, and would crash csgo simply as being stock. i even unistalled all programs that could overclock either the gpu or the cpu, and it would keep happening. i rma the first unit to the seller, and got a replacement cause it was in the 1 month return policy. and after a while, 2 weeks or so the new unit start behaving the same with everything on stock, with windows 10 fresh install. Diggin around, i found out the problem could not be only afecting me " https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/3hvov4/i7_5700_hq_problems_with_dota_2/" i tried to talk with msi support but all i got to do was to fresh instal windows 10 again, and update drives/bios/ec that i already did, like with the unit before this one.

im using a external monitor 144hz over displayport, every other game works fine, windows works fine. when the pc crashs, everything stops, teamspeaks stocks, the screen got freeze, and pc simply restarts, 19/20 times i got no crash report or what so ever, in event viewer it only shows, pc have been restarted without proper shutdown.

 

While this argument is fine, why not get g-sync when you have the option to? the 970m and 980m dont have that much of a performance jump, if a 970m cannot play the game, its not like the 980m will magically make the game suddenly much more playable. I would say if you are going to keep the laptop in the long run, get the g-sync laptop and then upgrade the 970m with the next latest and greatest msi upgrade kit like the 1080m or something.

I do not see why people keep recommending the 980m without g-sync. It makes no sense to pay for it granted, the gpu is better, but the majority of it is outdated, i mean, it doesnt even support USB 3.1 if its the old non-gsync model for crying out loud.

 

There aren't even USB 3.1 peripherals or devices that can run that fast, except for expensive RAID arrays, and you are complaining that you aren't getting it?

G-sync is just another problem to deal with when updating drivers and OS's, BIOS's:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-for-the-msi-rep.761676/page-93#post-10086967

Just another thing to deal with that keeps you from gaming, more useless crap to deal with.

The 970m is slower than the 980m, different enough even before OC'ing to make a difference in performance at the edge. About 10-25fps difference in games... that's a lot

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M and 970M


GTX 980m VS GTX 970m - Collection of PC GAMES of 2013/14 benchmarks - ULTRA SETTINGS


You are suggesting buying a laptop with a GPU you know you are going to dump/upgrade as soon as you can - costing $750 to upgrade - a huge added cost, just so you can have G-sync - which is of marginal use in limited circumstances?

No offense, but it just seems a bit too OCD, even for me

BTW, there is likely no supported upgrade from 970m to 980m, so you are stuck with that 970m for a year until Pascal comes out. While new games keep getting released, that the 980m could have run at decent fps at Ultra settings, while the 970m will require dropping some eye candy to keep the fps up.

Wait, spend more, lose access to your laptop while the GPU is upgraded. Lots of gaming time lost, time you can't get back.

Do you really think that you are going to experience that much tearing in games at 1080p on a 980m? I don't think you will.

Have you experienced that much tearing in games in general over your gaming career that you must insist on G-sync to keep it from ever happening again?

 

looks like I'll go with the G-sync and 970m option. not for the sake of G-sync but for the IPS and price (only 1300 usd). and as the folks said, I'll be able to upgrade the GPU when there is a real need - such as trying out VR systems once they are mainstream.

NVDA, for once, did a mistake and made the 970m quite powerful for it's price tag, so I'll take advantage of that mistake for now.

still, I cant believe msi/nvidia have left those who put their hard earned money on none-gsync gt72's in the dark without any hope of activating the feature. lets hope that changes.

 

I am not complaining, or trying to counter your argument, but i am saying that since you are paying money why not get the best tech available? we all know these laptops are basically "investment" pieces for most people as not everyone drops multiple G's on laptops frequently, therefore having bought a laptop with future support for stuff like 3.1 when it becomes more mainstream, as well as having G sync is obviously not a bad idea.

And please, enlighten me how you lose "so much time" in upgrading the gpu, from what i saw in the MSI video, it basically took the guy less than 30 minutes to take it apart and put the new one in with everything set and proper. The 970m is perfectly fine for gaming in the current day, and for the future as much as the 980m is good. People still use the 700 series and 800 series for gaming, i am sure the 970m will be absolutely fine.

But in the end as always, just depends on the use case for the individual, always going to have some ups and downs to the laptops

 

nightingale, did you take note of the warning at 1:05?

If you take on the upgrade yourself, and something goes wrong, you are not covered under warranty.

MSI GT72 Dominator (Pro) GTX 900M series MXM graphics upgrade


"Step 1: Grab your GT72 Introductory disclaimer: This guide is provided for experienced technicians. Do not try if unsure. In case you damage your GT72 trying to perform the upgrade, your system warranty will be void."
http://event.msi.com/gt72mxm/Born-to-Upgrade-how-to.pdf

If you send your laptop in to get the upgrade done, it will take a week round trip, maybe 2 depending on the timing of your upgrade with normal work loads and upgrade requests.

You can call/email and ask MSI for an accurate estimate for their time vs your time. They usually can quote the work estimate for common tasks. Just like a car repair.

I have a lot of experience doing this kind of work, and I would send in my GT80 for the 2x GPU upgrade. I would like to keep my warranty intact and have nothing to prove to myself or others.

If there is a problem with the replacement GPU's, or something else goes wrong while doing the upgrade, at least if it happens in their hands, while at MSI, they have the resources to swap parts and get it working quickly.

"The 970m is perfectly fine for gaming in the current day, and for the future as much as the 980m is good. People still use the 700 series and 800 series for gaming, i am sure the 970m will be absolutely fine."

What are you saying, don't bother upgrading to the 980m because people with slower GPU's are happy running their old GPU's?

Why in the world would someone that can afford a new laptop not get the best GPU that laptop has to offer? If you are short $500, save up for a few weeks and get it. You have to live with that laptop for years, what's a few weeks wait to save up?

I do understand the limits of budget, and even when you have enough $, the joy of taking it slow and enjoying the journey.

I bought a G750JW, then sold that and got a G750JX, and then sold that and got a G750JH... they weren't all available at the same time like the 980m is today. If the JH with the 780m were available when the JW was shipped, I would have gotten the JH from the start.

It was nice getting to know each model individually, and then upgrading to the next one. Rather than wait for the 780m to ship, I went ahead and gamed for 6 months on the 765m/770m. Each upgrade was awesome

The 980m is a lot faster than the 970m, and Pascal is a long way away, why not get the 980m now, and upgrade later?

 

I mean, taking the laptop apart carefully and adhering 100% to that video should be fine for the most part, as long as you dont damage anything your warranty is still intact.
The 970m debate, i am saying that the majority of gamers out there are still using even desktop 680's which the 970m is on point with, so in consideration of the wider population of gamers, the 970m is more than enough for games to be played at comfortable framerates and levels of eyecandy.
What we are discussing here though, is that the added "ease of life" components, such as g-sync and the usb 3.1 among others, that will no doubt become more useful in the future. From your perspective, the g-sync 980m would be the best choice.

However, since the 980m equipped model is now in a way outdated, it is better to spend the money on the latest model with a lesser gpu to ensure the future-ready aspect of the laptop. The 1080m with g-sync will be a great experience. Moreso than the tn panel and 1080m.

 

nightingale, I didn't take the time to look at the models, but generally the lower level GPU models have matching lower level CPU's.

I would want the best CPU, and the best GPU, and not be bothered much about the rest.

DDR4 isn't any faster, my Broadwell DDR3L 2133mhz scales the same as the DDR4 results.

The USB 3.1 / TB3 are promises for future use, not of interest.

Gsync is a bunch of baloney for a 980m with a 1080p panel.

If I were buying now, and that was my choice, I would ask for a price match discount - I would find one - and save some $. Use the "it's obsolete" model thing to get a better price.

IDK how quickly product updates are getting into the channel and how easy it will be to get a new 980m model, but I would wait for that over getting the 970m now - if that was the only choice.

For me the Broadwell with DDR3, 4x M.2 SATA III, and 2x 980m was perfect, and the upgrades weren't of interest to me.

Who knows what the driver problems / OS issues are going to be with a new motherboard chipset, CPU, DDR4, IO, etc.

I would rather take the mature product and have a nice stable gaming system, than go through new Windows 10 problems + all new hardware / drivers bug chasing process to stable operation.

It's all in what you are looking for, I have already done plenty of the new OS/hardware time wasting.

I decided I wanted to game instead