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whether after using mod bios. I can update to the latest bios like the usual way

 

Yes, you can swap stock and SVET BIOS's, he's got instructions packed with the modded BIOS kit. SVET is good about answering questions.

Also, the GT73 isn't going to get a lot of updates this late in the game, so you should be safe with 1 BIOS / 1 donation... YMMV

Ask SVET if he is including the latest Microcode updates including the Skylake / Kabylake errata fixes.

 

100mV- was the stock bios default Clevo locked it to. A bad idea!!

 

guys I have MSI GT73VR 6RE TITAN SLI 4K am experiencing some issue . can I get some help ? here is the details on the link below

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...titan-sli-4k-low-fps-caused-by-low-gpu-usage/

 

Please don't post the same thing in multiple threads.

 

I don't know why but I downloaded the new MSI VGA driver 384.94 found on the MSI GT73VR 1070GTX page but it will not install. I went in to safe mode and uninstalled using DDU and for some reason it will not install. When I execute the program it checks system compatibility and then says

"NVIDIA installer cannot continue This graphics driver could not find compatible graphics hardware".... What the hell?

 

Your device ID (more specifically subsys) is supposedly missing from the driver inf.

 

That's been known to happen from time to time, someone at Nvidia during the build process misses an include file and drops a whole bunch of ID's from a release.

The odd thing is that driver is being distributed by MSI as working for the GT73 when it isn't.

The nice thing to do would be to open a ticket and report the problem download details to MSI so they can pull the download and save other people that same headache.

MSI won't know unless someone tells them...Asus and other vendors do this from time to time too, putting up drivers that no one in house has actually tried for the specific model the download is listed for... sigh.

 

I'll ask again since the last post got buried, but does anyone here have a GTX 1070 *SLI* version of the GT73VR with the Kaby Lake 7820HK (**NOT the skylake 6820HK**)? e.g. GT73VR 7RE SLI (NOT 6RE SLI)? Note: GT83VR (Sli 1080's) will not help. If you have the 7RE SLI, can you please download RW Everything and take a screenshot of the "EC" window (with the hex codes shown clearly) please? Thank you!

And what's this? A FM approved driver not working for MSI laptops on MSI's own webpage...

 

Yes I was scratching my head too on this one since it was released from MSI. I got it installed though. I went back into safe mode and tried it again and it installed fine.

It failed the first time in safe mode so I booted normally and tried it and it didn't work and so I went back into safe mode again and cleaned everything with DDU and it installed after. No idea what caused the issue to fix itself.

 

Is the GT73vr's 4k screen any good? Color saturation, contrast, blacks...

 

Hello,
I have Msi gt73 Vr 6rf Titan pro and I have problem with screen bleed. Could some of the users of any Msi laptop take a picture of their bleed because I know that every Msi has it but I would like to see when is too much. I could Rma mine but maybe I could get worse unit.
Thank you!

 

Can you get the screen ID of your panel?

 

17.3" Full HD (1920x1080), 120 Hz Refresh Rate and 5ms response time panel ( It is tn panel)

 

After repaste and thermal pads replace for the GPU from the IC Diamond to Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra and the results are great

Before with Default settings for GPU



After repaste Overclocked

 

I've finally decided to go for the GT73VR w/ 7820hk & 1070

I searched this whole thread for the string "overclock" and get a number of different methods of attack, could anyone clarify some questions for me? I've previously use set Intel XTU on my current 4810MQ and it seems to work well (3.8ghz overclock there)

-If I'm going to keep it plugged in all the time and ambient temperature is climate controlled, is there any reason to undervolt? Won't that by its nature limit my overclock?

-What are the advantages of BIOS vs Throttlestop vs XTU vs MSI App? From what I've read, it seems that order is in decreasing difficulty (and decreasing optimum results).

-Are any of the above the difference between setting an "adaptive" vs a "constant" overclock? Are these misnomers or can I not go so hard on the machine by letting it wind down a bit if I'm not gaming?

-I plan to do a clean windows install and then install MSI drivers fresh; are any of their custom apps needed for overclock (or quality performance?) I see a few posts mention the MSI Gaming Center but curious why this would be used rather than BIOS (which seems to be the cleanest method) or throttlestop?

 

@nader_rizk2003 Please resize your pictures, and don't post the same thing like that in multiple threads.
And why did you say you repasted the GPU but your CPU was overheating before but now its not?
What did you do to the CPU?

 

I did repaste before for both CPU and GPU but in the first time i used IC diamond for GPU but this time i used Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra for as well.
i posted the first results here as well.
i post the same thing like that in multiple threads to double the chance that members find a solution is search, and it is easier to browse 18 page thread than almost 900 pages. thank you

 

Posting the same thing like that for no reason in multiple threads is not allowed. Even more so when it's a bunch of oversized screenshots that just eat up people's bandwidth.

 

Please i need info and tips, Setting preset true color Gaming Scenario to be more contrast and soft Colour
Now (I just +1 in Contrast)

 

hey guys, i read a part of this forum talking about the different chipsets for the gt73vr. im looking to buy this laptop soon but need a bit of help. i dont plan on over clocking so would i be better off with the 7700hq model? its 100 bucks cheaper so im considering it but that model only uses the hm175 chipset from what ive seen. so basically would that chipset cause problems with this model? im kinda unsure what to get because up until today i didnt realize there were two different chipsets. sort of confused with the whole thing since im not an expert on that. would appreciate some help

 

$100 bucks to gain higher framerates (120Hz needs the clocks) and avoid a bad chipset is a no brainer.

If $100 is a make or break amount for you, maybe reconsider spending over $2k in the first place.

 

Having a 7820HK that can overclock to 4.5 ghz (or more if you get a very good chip, combined with Conductonaut paste) vs a 7700HQ at 3.4 ghz on all cores is good for at least 10-15 FPS, maybe more. I've already noticed the fps difference in some massively CPU bound areas in Dark Souls (45 FPS on the Crystal Cave map, with 20% video card usage, etc at 3.4 ghz).

 

the 100 bucks isnt gonna break the bank but i would just prefer to keep the price down if possible. i’ll probably go for the unlocked one if the chipset really is that bad. it looks like gentechpc has one for a good price and they do liquid metal applications for free

 

yeah makes sense, i plan on playing gta5 so i will probably need the extra cpu. thanks to both of you for responding

 

if you are leaving the LM re-paste on re-seller, make sure you ask them to provide you before and after re-paste stress test temp comparison result snapshot

 

i’ll do that, thanks

 

i also just realized that the 7re titan-427 on xoticpc has the hm175 but the same model on gentechpc has the other chipset. is it possible for the same model to have different chipsets like that or is this a typo on one of the websites?

 

Originally the Titan-427 had the CM238, as that's the exact one I bought from them. Now they all have HM175 unless they are old stock. I would CALL gentech and ask for a hwinfo64 screenshot of the model's chipset if you do order from them. Or you can just get the GT75VR from HIDevolution which is guaranteed 100% to be CM238.

 

Keeping same model number but different chipset, seems like scam to me?

Even in amazon and newegg where they sell the GT73 1st party, new models with HM175 cancer has the SKU number 8xx instead of the old 4xx for CM238.

 

ahh ok, and i did send them an email but im waiting to hear back from someone. wish they didnt change the chipsets like this lol, just makes this confusing for me. i just wanna get something that will work and not have to worry about having issues.

 

According to @Falkentyne , the HM175 model won't work as advertised since activating CPU overclock can lead to hard shutdowns due to gimped EC.


But then again mobile CFL is going to be released Feb/18 (estimation), so I would wait if I were you.

 

thing is, ive already spent a lot of time researching what computer i want and this is the one thats best for me. i kinda just wanna get one at this point. i really dont wanna wait another 4 months. if i could just find one with the good chipset id be fine.

 

Please do what I said and verify its CM238.

I said verify it. The HM175 does not have the ESS Sabre, comes with killer 1435, not 1535, and EC has some power cutoff cancer at very high CPU power draw. Sirgeorge was able to replicate this on his CM236 SLI by changing the EC RAM value of offset F4 (in RW Everything) from 0C (the default for CM236/CM238) to 8C, which caused OCCT to fail instantly (or reboot) and games to reboot the system when overclocked. This required a hard AC power off to revert.

I cannot confirm nor verify if the HM175 will shutdown at high CPU power draw, only that using the 'gimped' EC on non gimped versions will cause it. Someone with a 'gimped' version would need to run AVX Prime 95 8 threads at 4.4 ghz (or if it overheats too fast, OCCT) to see if it shuts down. OCCT is a better faster test to see this.

EC firmware 17A1EMS1.112 causes this if you try to flash this on CM238 boards, and I am not going to look or test if offset F4 is the cause or if it can be reverted by changing the value as both me and Phoenix moved back to 17A1EMS1.108. Nor do I know if people who already have the HM175 version with this EC can use .108 to avoid it. There were apparently versions with HM175 and .108 EC previously and I do NOT know if they have this issue.

If all this worries you, buy the GT75VR.

 

well im pretty sure the one at gentech is the cm238 because aside from them listing that as the chipset it comes with the 1535 wifi. though i will still try to contact them and verify it as you said. as for the gt75 notebookcheck reviewed it and showed that the cooling on that one actually isnt as good as the gt73, the cpu ran hotter and the fans were much louder. they even recorded the cpu cores having differences of up to 15 degrees celsius. they may have just gotten a lemon but ive heard other people say that its cooling isnt that great as well.

 

2 bucks saved 10.000 chipset = $20.000 usd saved Do the same math, but with 25.000 units

 

This is nothing a repaste won't fix.
MSI probably saving a few dollars using worse thermal paste or using cheaper machines @Papusan

 

Gents, i had a very nice Weekend.. with a GT75VR 7RF from MSI Germany to test it for the german MSI end user Forum. was very nice to use it and i like the new mechanical Keyboard

 

Both, and save more

 

so i talked to someone from gentech and he informed me that all the gt73vr’s indeed have switched over to the hm175 chipset which is kinda misleading since it says otherwise on the website. guess there isnt any models left with the good chipset anywhere :/ not sure what im gonna do.

 

if im not planning on overclocking over 4.0 would the hm175 board be fine? i favor stability and good temps over small performance percentages anyways. i dont really wanna have to shell out an extra 300 bucks for the gt75

 

can someone tl;dr me please all this stuff about chipsets ? I just came after weeks away from the forum and there is too much to read. What chipset is better ? Why ? How do i check mine ?

 

Hi everyone

So i just received my msi gt75vr titan pro. Everything worked pretty good but it was a bit hot so i decided to repast it, something i'm used to but when the work was done the laptop just dont boot.. well actually it turns on but the screen stays black, no keyboard light, and expet the power button and the gpu button, all leds are off, even the battery indicator.

Any advices? Thank you

 

Unplug the laptop and hold the power button for 20+ seconds.After that start it normally.

 

Do I plug it to reboot it normally? Cuz it won't even boot if i dont plug it

 

What exactly is the HM175 guilty of that demands calling it a cancer?

The HM175 fulfills the same GT73 IO requirements, the same overclocking, and the same performance. There are a couple more ports and 4 PCIE lanes available with the CM238, but the GT73 in either model (with/without CM238) doesn't use them.

Perhaps MSI discovered the HM175 performs all the functions and with the same performance as the CM238, and since Optane isn't popular - the only reason I can think of to have a CM238, MSI decided to stop wasting money on the CM328?

The previous downgrade of motherboard chipset on the GT72 reduced features, but so far I don't see that being a problem with the GT73.

Or am I missing something?

 

So i tried your method, unpluged the battery, held the power button 20sec+, pluged it again but the issue still remains

 

best bet is to open it again and check carefully if everything is nicely connected...or if anything is damaged.Repaste it again but with not a lot of paste,just a small dab,and try again.

 

Done already, twice. Nothing looks damaged, repasted too, just a little, like a grain of rice.
I guess i'm good for RMA... 3 weeks without my lappy again yeeeaaah...
Anyway, thanks for you advices.

 

The only reason is saving a few $ on cost. A very very few models with unlocked BGA use HM175. Although the OEMs doesn’t implement Optane support and the 3rd M2 slot for their models.
Edit. I wonder why most part of the OEMs still use CM238 although they don’t use all features coming with this Chipset + the higher price.