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Yup, you need to have Global Vsync enabled + Gsync, and Vsync disabled in the game to get Gsync to work.

Also Gsync is problematic with some games, some Nvidia drivers too - was a rash of Nvidia drivers that broke G-sync.

 

Ok, that is the Same what i think. Maybe Nvidia fix this. I've post this in their Forum.

 

To test SSD thermals you have to do bulk transfers, not games.

 

Ah thank you! Complete newb when it comes to benching!


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Hey guys! I have a problem. Just got the laptop yesterday and it had a clean install of windows 10 from XoticPC and everything was ok, until Windows started auto updating. I guess after some update wifi speed dropped to bytes and I can hardly browse. Tried same wifi spot with my phone and it gives full speed, while laptop give 40kbytes. I have Killer E2400 wifi ethernet controller, Killer 1535 Wireless adapter. Any advise on how to fix this?

What's more weird is that when used my phone as a hotspot through the usb, speed is still much lower than on the phone itself. It still gives me about 1.5mbit, while phone shows 35mbit.

I downloaded Killer suite using my phone connection, uninstalled existing drivers, restarted, installed Killer suite, all good - full speed. Few minutes later it dropped back to turtle speed.

 

My Battlefield 1CPU temperatures are way to high and are somehow rising. I've seen 90C on core 0 now when I'm using the turbo mode overclock (@ the standard 4 Ghz). I've tried a load of console commands and stuff for the game but nothing seems to work. I'm also using a custom fan profile but it's still running really hot.

Time for a repaste I guess.

Is there a tear down guide for the GT73 somewhere? I've opened it and had a look, but it would be nice to have a guide just to be sure that I'm removing the right screws and so on. I have some MX2 paste, which should be good enough right?

Used to repaste my AW17 regularly, but the layout of that one seemed a bit easier to disassemble than the GT73.

 

Try uninstalling the suite and install the drivers only.

 

you can use hwinfo64 tool to check if the CPU core temps are even or uneven which may be big cause of high temps and if yes, don't bother to re-paste, there is no such problem ever reported with this laptop with uneven core temps. contact MSI.

But if you want to go with re pasting, you don't need the guide. it's easy as 123...

remove bottom panel, 5 screws

after panel removed, the right side fan is CPU, 2 screws, unscrew them, remove CPU fan cable, lift the fan slight up where the CPU fan connectors on MB and pull it towards, gently, watch for wireless adopter cables

now the next is CPU heatsink



only 4 screws, unscrew them. if it's first time you are disassembling the CPU, then you need to lift the CPU up from where the red circle is till you feel that's all it cannot be lifted up. Now slide / pull it towards yourself and also where the blue circle is try to hold and slide / pull it towards yourself too....



be-careful there are thermal pads on the CPU heatsink too...

there are 2 or 3 review videos on youtube you can watch specially one from GenTechPc, you will get the idea how to disassemble it

 

@jflax

Forget to mention, MX2 / MX4 doesn't worth the re paste, stock thermal paste is as good as these 2 paste also with this latop thicker the paste, better the result, I will not go for ICD, I tried it on both CPU / GPU, it scratch both dyes and result almost close to stock TIM, GC extreme is not for laptops so what left is Thermal Grizzly Kryo, personally used it on this laptop and satisfied with temps with OC

 

Thanks a lot for the help! I have been monitoring temps with hwinfo64. I saw 84 degrees max for the first time on the system about a month ago while playing BF1 and thought that it was a bit high. Yesterday though, I saw a max of 95C! That was running the auto fan profile in Dragon Center.

This is surely some kind of problem I need to deal with. I know that BF1 is a CPU intensive game but those temps are unacceptable. I've updated the BIOS, Firmware and drivers. I've opened the computer to remove dust. I even use a cooling pad. Nothing seems to help.

Guess I could contact MSI, but I would rather just try to solve it myself as I don't want to send the laptop away which I also use for work.

I'm bewildered as the CPU temperatures largely never go over 80C, even in demanding game such as The Witcher 3.

 

I don't have BF1 but many users here played BF1 on this laptop and no one mentioned temp this high...there must be a problem.

in hwinfo64 tool, the core# 0, 1, 2, 3 temps difference should not be greater then 2 degree between each core.

try run a benchmark like prime95 and see the CPU temps, if you are getting temps high in BF1 only it may be nvidia drivers.....not CPU

 

Yeah I've definitely got some sort of problem

After running the Prime 95 heat stress test for a couple of seconds only I got these max temps:



If the picture doesn't show up:

Core #0 Max 97C
Core #1 Max 88C
Core #2 Max 99C
Core #3 Max 89C

I've opened a ticket with MSI now.

 

I play BF1 regularly but temps never get that high. Will keep a close eye on them next time I play and report back.

 

Didn't help. Gives 200kbit/s max. Any other ideas?

 

the heatsink is uneven, either it's stock paste or either is factory fault....there shouldn't be 10 degree difference...max 1 to 3 degree....

in the beginning of this thread, a user returned the laptop with same uneven core temp issue and got replacement, re pasting even doesn't resolve the issue...

you can try the thick thermal paste (MX2 / MX4) will not make any difference.

if the re pasting brought down the temp difference to 1 to 3 degree, otherwise you have to check with MSI support for this issue....

 

@jflax

MSI will ask you to send the latop for RMA

When you get the RMA detail, reply the ticket with something like "you can change the CPU heatsink by yourself and ask for MSI to ship you the CPU heatsink only"

If MSI support accept your request, you will not need to send the laptop for RMA and MSI will provide you either a contact number or email address to discuss the matter further...

keep us updated how things will move forward, it will help other users too....

 

Did you need, or choose to use, any heatsink paste between SSD and heatsink?

 

Thermal pad already (factory) installed on heatsink which only covers PCIe drives but for sata m.2 drive you have to add the thermal pad, thickness is 1mm, few pages back, shared the complete detail with picture and size of thermal pad.

 

Thank you again for your help Shehary.

I wrote to MSI about the issue. Let's see what they say. Great idea on suggesting to them that I can replace the heatsink myself.

Weird thing is that this issue has developed over time. When I got the laptop in October I monitored temps quite a lot and they were great. Never above 80C.

After that I haven't been paying close attention and only recently did I notice this issue with BF1. Thought it was a problem with the game somehow.

As I haven't touched the heatsink I can hardly have damaged it myself. I'd like to try a repaste myself, but with the warranty sticker and all, I'm afraid they might blame it on user error if the heatsink is damaged and it is obvious I have tried to repaste it myself.

Anyhow, I'll report back when I have news.

 

I just ran Prime 95 for few mins and the picture is the same, but with lower temps. Maximum I got was 83C, but the difference was about 7C. Difference same as yours - 1 and 3 core is almost the same, but they differ from 0 and 2 cores for 7 degrees.

 

This is my prime95 test ran for 8 mins and cancelled, room ambient temp 24

only 1 to 3 degree difference @ CPU 4.0, this is how the temps on all core should be, it will be best if difference will be 1 to 2 and even no difference at all between cores temp.

someday I will reduce this 1 to 3 degree difference too and make temps even on all cores...but not today....

 

you repaste it yourself? mine is on XoticPC diamond compound. means they pasted it not right.

what's bad in uneven numbers?

 

anything above 4 degree difference is bad and if OC (above 4.0) anything above 3 or 2 is bad....

yes, re-pasted, MX4, ICD and now on Thermal Grizzly Kryo

test result same with max 1 degree core temp difference between MX4 / ICD / TGK but overall TGK is better and drop the temps

CPU cores are inside die are like

Core # 0 + Core # 2 (top half of CPU die)
Core # 1 + Core # 3 (bottom half of CPU die)

so if you get higher temps on one half and lower temp on other half means either

1. excess thermal paste on any half
2. heatsink not sit properly on any half (screws not tight properly or not in X direction after re paste)
3. heatsink un even and not has proper or bad contact with any half. (require new heatsink)

somebody asked for the CPU core positions, here is a skylake cpu die map

 

Is the speaker supposed to be loose inside the frame?

It is rattling around in there and I don't see a way to get at it easily. I'm thinking about shoving some foam under it as a shim to quiet the vibrations.

 

no, speakers / woofer are not loose, not even move...to reach them require to disassemble the cpu / gpu heatsink, HDD(s), battery etc etc...better go with that foam idea....

 

Interesting. I had not seen this die map before. Intel ought to consider a CPU variant that provides 6 or 8 processing cores and dispenses with the integrated GPU, for systems that will use only discrete graphics.

 

I have question,So I read an article about how NVME ssds take the pcie on the CPU,and knowing that the i7-6820hk has 16 pcie ,so that will limit the bandwidth for the other component like the Gpu ,so I am confused,if you can tell me if you've noticed any performance decrease for the other parts and for the whole system in general ?

 

They go to the PCH. If you look at the CM236 spec sheet, you can see the HSIO lanes which it uses.

 

Go into the Killer Settings, and set the upload / download speeds - make sure to get the values in the right spots, and accurate rounded up to the megabit.

Without those settings Killer Suite goes dumb, with intermittent rates - also set the other settings to your usage - the settings once set - reboot and try again.

The other choice is to download the Other=>Drivers Only package. Uninstall the Suite, reboot (important, don't install the drivers only package without having rebooted after uninstalling the Suite), and when it comes up install the drivers only package.

That should be enough to get stable throughput, but I found using the Suite, setting the settings correctly, and setting priorities for apps / usage allows me to run as many simultaneous network applications and not get any drops in streaming video or audio even under multiple heavy downloads.

You could have router incompatibility at the hardware level, make sure you have the latest firmware installed - download from the vendor support site directly - don't rely on the built in update tools. Find an alpha/beta if necessary.

If you have 2.4ghz + 5ghz, switch between them from / to one or the other to see if it helps.

Check for interference - good throughput interspersed with bad throughput suggests this - use a tool like inssider to view the wifi landscape, and pick a channel with less interference - this is easier usually on 5ghz.

inssider 4.x doesn't have a trial any longer, but the 3.x version is free to download:
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/5936-inssider.html

 

A 6-core mobile CPU is coming from Intel, in the Cannon/Coffee Lake line. Late 2017 or early 2018

 

Sweet. Only, I wish replacing my current machine could wait until then, but I need to get something ordered in the next week or so due to a failing keyboard (Macbook Pro...repair circa US$700).

 

thanks for the help guys, but the problem fixed itself. won't tell you what was the cause, not to embarrasse myself lol

 

and I am getting uneven temp core numbers in prime 95, but not when I play Battlefield. When Battlefield they are withing 1 degree limits.

 

Are you sure the app with uneven core temps was actually multithreaded? Any single-threaded app will by definition only run on a single core, so you would see uneven temps.

 

P95 spins up one process per logical CPU.

 

Cat napping on router antenna's ?

 

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http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11433632

I think I can go higher xD but I'm done for a while..

 

Those 960 pros are amazing! Compared to the raided default setup, this a screen shot from notebookcheck review using an older version of crystaldiskmark.. gah.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/17420299

this one went past 20k in graphics

 

Hi,

I have the Everki Beacon and it fits the gt73vr just fine, including my headset and other auxiliary devices.

Highly recommended!
Hardy

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Interesting, when I had trouble stuffing mine into my Targus Drifter2 I assumed I would need the 18" version. I had an interior pocket rip and the company was amazing, they gave me several options on how to go about replacing the backpack, I ended up giving them a CC number and then put a hold on it and sent a new one to me, I will donate the bag, remove the SN tag and send them proof of the donation, I like that option and am very satisfied with them.

 

next day i got my 003, they listed 425 with Kabylake. me sad

 

don't be sad, according to MSI it's just 10% improvement with kabylake if you be going sad like this on every upgrade, the next sad moment will be in Feb or March when Nvidia will announce GTX1080 Ti and GT73 / GT83 are only potential lineup which can get GPU upgrade (high chances)...so just...Just enjoy the laptop....real upgrade time will be in 2018 when we will see Volta GPU and 6 cores CPU and most probably water cooled laptops....with either curve screen or multiple internal displays (thanks to Acer & Razer)......

 

Everything is in constant flux, the min you buy any laptop, the next best model is just around the corner.
No point trying to chase the FPS fairy, enjoy what you have for a few years before the next big upgrade.

 

It's all about the timing, no sense in looking back, just do the best you can when it's time to buy.

 

Quick question. I saw in the Bios that my RAM is running at 2133MHz. How can I OC it to 2400MHz?

 

You could prob do in Bios via the OC menu, I have looked at it on my laptop and decided its best to leave alone.
Thats if it can be OC, not checked if its locked or not.

I would do lots of reading first, last thing you want is to kill you laptop.

 

if you have updated to new bios, you will have option to change the speed from Auto or 2133 or 2400 in BIOS, do not need to change anything in BIOS RAM OC values...leave them default, after selecting the RAM speed to 2400Mhz, rest will be done by system itself...Already did it and RAM running at 2400Mhz @ 15CL

 

thanks for the support guys. ) yeah I just checked the video comparison of Kabylake. they have 3k monitor version also. that would be nice i guess. 4k is overkill IMO, but 3k...