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ohhhhhh

 

Also those comparisons wont matter much unless the heatsink makes perfectly even contact with every paste out there. IF the Heatsink is not even, then CLU will most definitely perform the worst.

 

someone mentioned about low pressure of HS in laptop, I agree, question is

if pressure increased (let's assume if pressure can be increased, let's say 10% more) is it safe...?

 

Is there any performance benefit to 32gb or 64gb vs the stock 16gb for gaming?

 

If the heatsink is not completely flat and you get Higher pressure on the perfect part of heatsink against die this can crack the die.

 

nope

I always go for the max RAM though for bragging rights

I also setup a RAM Drive as a temp download folder to not put a lot of wear and tear on my SSDs in addition, the more RAM you have, the more Windows can cache in the background for faster access

but for games, it's not gonna matter

 

A factory stock GT73, is the default 16GB of RAM installed under the keyboard?

 

and if pressure on worse part of the HS against die, can help the HS sit on die if HS is uneven and for AW17 @iunlock lap the heatsink, so if shaving off the copper, means losing more pressure, in this case, applying right amount of pressure will not hurt the die (personally I never see or heard anyone saying they crack the die,)

yes, stock rams, 16 or 32 under the keyboard....

 

I have 16GB and the two slots above the keyboard are open so I guess if it's the same RAM then a re paste wouldn't be needed.

 

Without proper contact LM is as good as mayonnaise

 

Or toothpaste. But still somewhat better than semen.

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Hello, all

I drove about an hour each way today to get my hands on display models of the MSI machines. They didn't stock the GT73VR, but they had almost all the other models in the series. I've got some questions for owners based on this, because right now the GT73VR is my front-runner, with the GS73VR is second choice (probably).

First, the GT display units they had showed terrible audio during YouTube playback and Unigine Valley benchmark runs with sound. There was really audible crackle in the speakers. Is this normal, or is it an artifact of the stock Nahimic drivers and other MSI bloatware? I'd say it was a cracked speaker, but I heard the same thing on three machines.

Second, given the GT73VR's size, what do you folks recommend for a backpack? I looked at the Everki Titan, which is wonderfully made but is slightly oversized for the GT73VR. But the Everki Stride, though rated for a 17.3" laptop, technically is too small by about 1.5 cm in two dimensions. I need to manage my new machine during airline travel, as carry-on, so I need to keep the backpack close in size to the laptop. Will the GT73VR actually fit into an Everki Stride, or do I have to get the Titan and try to squish it down at the top? What other packs do you guys recommend?

Third, I've read the posts about display banding on the 4K panels. I need the 4K for my CAD work; is the banding bad enough to be a serious concern? Is banding a warranty-exchangeable "defect", or do all the 4K models have it?

Fourth, I'm planning on buying with a 2 TB Samsung 960 Pro NVMe SSD. Will the GT73VR push the NVMe at full speed (around 3 GB/sec read, 2.5 GB/sec write) on large sequential files?

Thanks for your input and suggestions.

 

MSI has done this for me before, I file a Technical Ticket asking for a previous version that isn't uploaded any longer (or never was), and they sent it with instructions on how to flash an older version over a newer one - the default flash tool won't allow that and neither will the BIOS.

I also had a weird one once that after upgrading the BIOS the IMEI info wasn't updated, so MSI sent me a custom set of instructions on how to force the update of that area only with bin with only that data.

MSI is pretty cool about helping you keep from sending in an RMA based on firmware, if it can be done.
https://register.msi.com/home/login

Note that Asus, Abit, Gigabyte, EVGA, and some I am not remembering at the moment have done this too, for laptops and MB's. Just ask nicely, and state your need specifically and clearly, with technical details so as to make the request unambiguous.

 

You're thinking of the 3K. There are two 17" 4K panels in the wild and both are full 8-bit color with very good coverage and no such artifacts.

The CM236/8 chipsets are fully capable of handling the drive. It's very rare to have the chipset be the limiting factor barring a technology jump such as SATA II -> III.

 

The only time I ever had audio crackling was right after the windows 10 anniversary update. However there's an updated driver from MSI that fixed it.

I use the Everki titan with my GT73VR and I love it. The compartment isn't too big and it has a strap to hold everything in place. Plus it has tons of storage for the power brick and other accessories. If you buy a skylake model, right now some resellers are including an MSI branded backpack for free.

I have the 120hz 1080p screen so I can't talk about the 4K.

I have an 850 EVO and 600p SSD and those aren't as fast as the 960 pro but I've not heard anyone complain about speed reductions. The laptop has 2 m.2 nvme slots as well as a single m.2 sata slot and 2.5" sata drive.

 

The 17.3" 2560x1440 screen is the one with the banding issue.

 

Oh, and I've owned the GT70, GT72, and GT73, and have never experienced audio crackling.

 

The more i think about it, the numerical order msi missed making a gt71. Strange naming conventions with companies these days.

 

It was different. They used the same GT780/GT70 chassis from the GTX 400M's generation to the 700M's, then came with the GT72 when the GTX 880Ms came out.

They were still selling the GT70 at the time, so I'm guessing they skipped straight to GT72 nomenclature, to differentiate it as the much newer, more premium chassis.

 

Did they miss the GT69 some where?

 

Thanks!

 

Good info, thanks! I was really impressed with the quality of the Everki packs. Targus is pretty good, but Everki looks better. Pricey, but TANSTAAFL.

I'll bet the audio problem I heard was because the store updated Windows but not the audio driver.

 

hi. i just bougth gt73 7re and updating drivers. updated nvidia and my screan colours ar dark now. how do i make it normal again? updated to 376.33

 

Do you use MSI True Color?

 

Dont realy know. Just bought it, only figuring out everything. I'll check when i get home

 

Thanks A LOT for this very detailed procedure. Great help.

 

can you post the exact screen model via a screenshot from AIDA64 / Monitor section

 

I think someone in the thread got an Everiki Beacon and it fit this model. I put some added padding in the bottom of my Titan backpack as van drivers and cabbies don't seem to understand "be gentile, there's a computer in there" and they put it down a bit too hard for my liking.

 

In Dragon center re select one of the color schemes and see if one is better. there is also color profiles floating around here and you can get an app to lock them at startup.

 

I have the Beacon and it does fit the 73VR just fine, that and my company notebook, 2 mouse, 1 sennheiser Headset, all cables adapters and power bricks, my mouse pad and my Xbox one controller.

I also transported on top of the above, an ipad, a shield tablet and an Epson projector. That was when I was traveling with the kids to Germany.

Love the backpack very much.

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Nothing special, using afterburner that was the usual overclocking tests; some worked some crashed. I got same results using dragon center. I didn't manually up the voltage so that's why I know it can be beaten. Can't say I remembered what I overclocked it to, was almost a month ago! When I get more time I'll have another go.

I've updated EC firmware and yea the fan is a tad more chirpy as the CPU gets to 1800 rpm when is nearly 50 degrees. Think I may have to repaste if I ever get in contact with MSI uk support about these chirpy fans and maybe they send me replacements!

 

@Phoenix, I wasn't clear if you were directing this question to me, or to the other person who commented.

 

Thanks to both of you who commented on the Beacon. It's great to know I could opt for a smaller pack than the Titan if I want.

My jury is still out on whether to opt for "performance" or "mobility", but if I go with the GT73VR, I'm almost certainly going to invest in a new pack for it. I actually have a Targus that is large enough, but it's really *too* big and is from the olden days with a "luggable" system.

 

got the answer already

Who has the FHD 120hz/5ms GSNYC screen model?

 

This is the one I got:



It is very durable, the handles are sturdy despite the heavy weight of the laptop with the charger, it doesn't feel like the handles are going to break if you hold it from only one of them. I have walked in light rain as well while having the backpack on and the laptop wasn't wet so that's another plus point.

Speaking of storage, you can store your entire room in there (not literally) but you have so many pockets / sections it's super roomy and convenient.

PS: It costs an arm and a leg but hey, it's the best out there and this beast deserves nothing but the best.

 

I see we share an appreciation of Sennheiser audio. I discovered them when I needed a pair of acoustically neutral headphones for audio editing (which requires a different spec than enjoyment listening or gaming). A friend who is a professional musician and composer recommended the HD25 series, and I absolutely love them. ( https://en-us.sennheiser.com/on-ear-dj-headphone-hd25) The cable looks flimsy, but it's really very sturdy due to a braided metal shield (and it's a replaceable part if it ever does get damaged). These things let you hear every defect in your edited track, which sounds awful but is actually exactly what you need if you're editing.

 

Agreed -- my build will be about US$5K, but it's going to be my work machine, so I share that sentiment.

I looked at a number of bags yesterday, including the Titan. The Everki I thought were the best-built out of the 10 or more brands this store carried (it was a whole aisle, two sides -- quite a selection). My only reservation about the Titan is whether it will fit under an airline seat in coach class. (I work for a small company that treats its people well, but some of our customers are big companies that treat everyone except executives like cattle. And the few remaining US airlines are godawful in every way they know how.)

 

This may be a silly question. I went to msi to check fro updates on my 6RE but msi does not list the product now. All I can find it the GT72 6RE and GT73 7RE.

Do I just use the 7RE? Other than the kaby lake specific driver.

 

The GT73VR 6RE is here. Is that what you want?

And you can find it at the bottom of the page here. The GT73VR Titan.

 

Here you go. Sorry for the delay! It's been a busy weekend. I don't have AIDA64 but I think hwinfo64 gives the same info you're looking for.

 

I have an off the shelf GT73VR 6RE and my 16gb was pre-installed under the keyboard. Added another 16gb in the bottom super easy.

 

Yup, I can't understand why so many people cheap out on their laptop carry protection after spending $XXXX's on a new laptop.

I see guys bragging they got a $XX backpack that "fits great", when it's made of thin non-padded material that offer no "bounce" protection to the laptop.

Make sure you can afford to get a well protected laptop bag before you purchase, so you aren't tempted to get a cheap bag only to damage your brand new laptop just by "setting it down" a couple of times on hard surfaces.

The mass and energy contained in a swinging bag holding 30lbs of stuff is enormous and if transferred to the laptop in some cases will physically damage it.

Youtube video laptop bag drop tests
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=dropped+laptop+bag&sp=SBTqAwA%3D

 

Did you notice a difference in performance? I'm thinking about it but $100 is a lot to spend if I'm not going to notice any real world difference.

 

Yes thank you, don't know why i couldn't find it

 

I regularly use large datasets and multiple virtual machines simultaneously, so yes, I notice a significant difference in performance. Unless you have a similar work load or you like having 200 chrome tabs open simultaneously, it's unlikely you will notice the same increase in performance.

I would open resource monitor during a time when you are most busy in your normal routine and see just how much memory you are using. Unless you know you need more than 16gb, it's unlikely you'll benefit from the $100 upgrade.

However, if you are like @Phoenix and need to have a big e-peen, then by all means... Get as much RAM as possible!

 

Yep. All working good now. Thank you. Amazing laptop

 

Onother question. When you do first backup, is it for windows aswell? More than 17gb
Etc if i would need to reinstal windows, would it work?

 

I´m selling the two toshiba nvme ssds. 256gb is not enough for me. Now, my question is, will it be better two samsung 960 evo 256gb in raid or one 512gb? Will i feel any difference in performance? I know that 512gb will be more future proof, but that is not my concern, as i dont need more than 300gn ( I have a nas for everything else).

Thank you!

 

I would advise that you get one 512GB SSD since if RAID 0 fails, you lose all your data on both drives.

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