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For benchmarks speed / low latency take priority over capacity.

 

Can you easily upgrade the ssds and ram on this laptop?

 

Yes, the SSDs and RAM are easy to upgrade. However, two of the RAM slots are under the keyboard.

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How do you access them? Do you have to remove the heatsinks?

 

I'm not exactly sure, you'd be better served asking @DukeCLR @Shehary @hmscott @iunlock @Mobius 1 @Atma

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Thank you

By the way, do you know if there is a review that have compared the msi 120hz FHD screen with clevo's 120hz QHD screen?

 

When you do the MSI restore backup, it will restore windows back to like the day you got it. I did that one before uninstalling any bloat. After I removed bloat and updated windows, especially the slow Anniversary update, I did another backup using windows, not MSI. Now If I have to restore I don't have to go through all the updates again and it still restores MSI apps.

 

2 ram slots under keyboard, to access these slots, you have to tear down more then half of the laptop but these slots are pre-populated by 16 or 32 GB

if you are not planning to access 2 ram slots under the keyboard, then no need to remove the heatsinks.

2 more ram slots otherside of MB which you can access by removing bottom panel, 5 screws to remove bottom panel

SSD / HDD also accessible by removing bottom panel, 3 screws to remove SSD heatsink.

watch GenTechPc GT73VR review video on youtube...or read this awesome review with snapshots....


Now I'm getting really bored......

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this is the comment that pisses me off the most, SSD's have never failed me in the 7 years that I've been using them. the chances of an SSD failing are 0.1% which I'm willing to take

yes one single SSD is better obviously, but how about 2 big SSDs for max storage

 

Fair enough, maybe I seem to get the short end of the stick since a few of my (and my friends') RAID 0 setups have failed in the last few years. I'm glad you don't suffer from the same problem but personal experience prevents me from recommending RAID 0 setups.

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Not sure about direct comparisons, but I have heard that the QHD screen in the Clevo (also on Alienwares and Aorus) suffers from banding, so you may want to look into that.

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I understand, if you had a bad experience I can't argue with that. Knock on wood I never had this. Neither with cheap LiteOn 1st gen SSDs, nor any SanDisk SSD, or any Samsung SSD

 

That is great to hear. I hope you never have to go through a RAID 0 failure.

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Then you have at least a good reason for a fresh install. I would see the positive side ;-)

 

Haha fair point, although the failure was with a laptop (not a GT73VR) that had just had a clean install of Windows 7.

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speaking of failures, there is one thing that can cause major corruption / make your OS not bootable.

That is, when one overclocks his CPU too much and for some reason some instability happens, bye bye to Windows, it would get corrupted then only a format would fix this as you won't be able to boot even to restore a previous image. Thus, it's best to install Windows in AHCI mode when one wants to expirement with overclocking and once he finds stable settings / clock speeds, then RAID *can* be done

 

I had to install everything after setting up my raid, then a few weeks later I updated bios and it broke my raid setup. Setup raid and did a fresh install again. Then a couple of days later I noticed I did a 16kb stripe instead of 128. Setup raid again, another fresh install. I'm not feeling too positive about doing another.

 

If using the laptop as work station, losing the data and doing fresh install more often, don't see the positive side here specially when working on a project with tight leash and time is essence...

 

Poor you, that must have really sucked.

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Thanks for the advice, my friend.

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speaking of advice, if one ever wants to create a RAID 0 array

the best data stripe size of OS / Games is 16K as per Intel

Reason being, the OS, programs, games, has very small files that make up the entire package, DLL files, INF, etc, so the smaller 16K data stripe size is the best

when creating a large RAID 0 array not for performance only but for the convenience of having one large partition such as for storing large video files and what not, then the largest 128K data stripe size is recommended.

If one has a mix of both on that same RAId 0 array, then a 64K Data stripe size strikes the best balance of performance for such a setup.

 

Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Very helpful.

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Sure, on a working machine you have to meet other requirements.

 

@Shehary

I use SyncBack Pro daily to backup everything to an external HDD. you configure the locations and then it only copies the different/new files

this way, backing up multiple TBs only takes me a few seconds

Backup daily and you have nothing to worry about when using RAID

 

Thanks. Good to know. What bloat ware did you remove?

 

I didn't know that. MSI recommended 128. I may do it again .. someday. I need to do it again one day anyway. Something isn't right with mine. This is what I got before the new bios broke it. This is what I get now. Both with 128 stripe. The only thing different is the new bios and I used windows restore instead of MSI restore.

 

There isn't really a lot. I used the Norton Remove Tool to get rid of that. I uninstalled MSI True Color and use an ICC profile from this thread. Some like it, some don't. There were some music apps I can't remember the name of. I also uninstalled Nahimic because the sound in DOOM goes out every time I use it.

 

hmm. according to these benchmarks: http://www.overclock.net/t/1535527/...ing-different-drives-vs-same-drive-benchmarks

seems like 64K is the best

I think I may go with that

but then again, in the conclusion, he says 16K is the best as per Intel:

 

Darn! I thought Nahimic is what makes the sound so awesome

why don't you contact MSI about this issue?

 

I had this issue and I thought you could run the non Vulcan version to clear it up but I cant remeber exactly as I was focused on BF1 and TW3 so I unstalled DOOM, I also uninstalled Fallout 4 because of having to limit the FPS to make the game run correctly.

I had removed Nahimic at first but reinstalled to get the mic to work properly, once I set it up I really enjoy the sound.

 

I think I might try 64 next time too. I have the Samsung SM951 and someone did test and posted images with 4 different stripe settings and 64 gave the best performance (although I can't find the post now). In your link it looks like 64 gives the best performance before dropping off in 128.

 

I didn't contact them because it sounded fine to me without Nahimic. I usually use headphones though so that may make a difference. MSI may not care since it's an issue with one game.

 

@tilleroftheearth who is the NBR Forum's SSD Doctor also recommends 64K data stripe for the best overall performance

 

I will give it a try, I keep all the files on Github which installed on my hosting (also save me a lot of time to set up everything locally, who knows windows can die on you....) since I lost all data on m.2 SSD which died because of over heating and made me little paranoid about drive temps to keep them under 50....as long as temp under 50, you can even rape the drive, it won't mind but temp going above 50 and no matter how much you care or love (kissing or hugging) the drive, they die on you.....

 

By the way, I remember seeing in the features of this laptop that it has a USB Charger port which provides more power to charge mobile devices just like the Alienware laptops, which USB port is that?

 

I just looked at my manual and I couldn't find any reference to a special USB port for charging.

 

My new GT73 PRO 4K comes tomorrow. The 4K IPS panel advertises GSYNC capability; is this true? Specs are:

4K IPS Panel
7820HK
GTX 1080
16GB DDR4 2400
256GB SSD ( adding in a 512 also )
1TB HDD

 

ohh nevermind, it was the Thunderbolt port not the USB port. What a shame, my 2 year old Alienware 18 had one USB port with a charger sign on it like electricity that provided a faster charge for USB devices. oh well, not a big deal

 

Can I ask for some help from owners to compare the noise of the fans with mine. I've mentioned this in the thread before but I'm finally getting around to sorting it out. MSI uk support got back to me and said they do not send out free components anymore!
I refuse to send my laptop in so looks like i'm going to have to pay to get the fans replaced. However are the fans like this by design or are they faulty?

Please open and look/listen to the video - if you turn the volume up you can hear the fans are annoyingly noisy when both hovering around the 2000 rpm. Can someone please post an equivalent video. I recorded it on my iPhone and it was about an inch away from the back outlet at start and end of the video.



Hopefully you can help me confirm.
Cheers guys.

 

It's true

see:



Custom Built MSI GT73VR 7RF TITAN PRO 4K-479 17.3" nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080

 

someone defiantly abuse their free components service, otherwise it will be less hassle and low cost solution for MSI to ship the parts....

you can give it one more try by sending the video to support and ask them to have look, may be they will ship you the fan, as under warranty they are liable to provide you the parts free of cost unless something is damaged by user.

I can confirm you that I don't have any noise coming out of any side of fan at any RPM

you can ask MSI how much for the fan, some one is also selling spare on ebay (USA) can compare the price and see which suits you.

btw in UK you have both ways free shipping option so you can send the laptop for RMA.

 

yes onboard edp connector is 40pins so you can swap the screen with 4K UHD even if you have FHD 120Hz by yourself, cost of screen somewhere between $100 to $200 depend on seller....

When I will be fed-up with FHD will swap with UHD.....

 

So bad fan bearings? Yea I've contact MSI UK support and sent them the video. I just cannot be without the laptop for weeks away due to work demands. Hopefully they will make an exception in this case. They did say it can take longer to send customers parts then a service centre turn around!? I guess what they are saying is they cannot send parts from the service centres but instead need to order and send from China.

 

that's your choice but see this:

How does anyone in his right mind buy a 4K screen laptop?

 

okey I'm rephrasing my statement, if I ever get fed-up of FHD.....

 

hmmm, may be that's the case but I can confirm you that MSI does ship the parts and few users also can confirm it as they get fan shipped and yes this whole spare part process does take time, somewhere around 1 month....

 

that's a choice you'll have to make. Why do you want UHD?

FHD has 120hz refresh rate vs UHD only 60hz
FHD has 5ms response time while UHD has 25ms+ response time, say hello to image ghosting in games / fast paced action my friend
FHD looks great at the native resolution, no DPI scaling issue, misaligned buttons, or blurriness in some apps that don't play with with DPI scaling. With UHD, you need a magnifier to see things at the native resolution if you don't do DPI scaling

 

I don't have such fan noise, good luck with contacting them.

 

True, but when I had my razer blade pro with the gtx 1080, less demanding games looked incredible in 4K at 60hz. Plus from what I was told , the 4K version is brighter and has better colors.