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    The Official MSI GT73VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. ThePerfectStorm

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    Yeah, thanks. Assuming I get one, I will probably get the upgrades done by the pros. I hope the NBR members discount @Phoenix mentioned will help the price go down a bit.

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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    Would this be the same for the 6RE and 7RE?
     
  3. Fridgeboy

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    Fair enough, almost there!
     
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    Yes, the fan control system is the same on all the GT73VR models as far as I'm aware. The only difference between RF and RE is the GPU that comes installed.
     
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    Alright good to know. The 7RE also has an updated firmware to .108. Newb question.... How do I install it without breaking anything? haha
     
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    no my first laptop came with 308 and had no GSYNC. Tried reinstalling the same 308 BIOS over it again, and after the flash process started, screen turned blank and the laptop was bricked so I sent it back.

    Now the replacement is with the latest BIOS

    If you check the event log of the new BIOS 308, it says:

    Description Fix BIOS update fail in UEFI BIOS Flash and SHELL mode.

    That's probably what caused the brick and this BIOS should fix the issue
     
  11. Shehary

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    I'm thinking to add an additional drive...only for storage purpose...m.2 and nvme are out of option due to high price and low storage capacity....need minimum 4TB

    what left is SSD Evo or SSHD Hybrid drive (also was reading an article yesterday and looks like seagate had higher drive failure ratio last year as compare to other manufactures)

    SSD 4TB will cost above $1K....still the price tag is very high for storage purpose only so SSHD is what I'm looking at...any suggestion....?
     
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    I'll never use a Seagate drive even if you gave it to me for free. Had a 4TB Seagate external HDD fail on me costing me a lot of lost data and never had good luck with their laptop HDDs as well.

    SSHDs are a big gimmick, how does the drive know what to put in the SSD portion of the drive? It doesn't, it's no different than a mechanical drive but slightly faster, no where near as fast as an SSD

    Just get a regular m.2 non NVMe SSD

    See my sig to have an idea of what drives.....

    OR, if you want a drive just for video storage, get the Samsung Spinpoint 5400 RPM 2TB HDD for like 80 bucks
     
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    Just curious, but how is the viewing angle on this laptop?

    It's not an IPS but a TN, which is why I'm wondering. Only got to see it briefly. Head on it looked pretty good, but I don't remember to the sides.

    Is the 330 watt power supply adequate (ex: does this thing ever have to use the battery)? What about in 1070 SLI?
     
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    anyone knows why when I switch to intel-GPU, the dragon center craches on monitoring tab???
    I have installed the altest version...
    thank you
     
  15. Fridgeboy

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    Well I can't technical but viewing angles are fine I don't know if you are planning to stand off to the side to view your screen a lot but sitting on an angle to it it looks fine. the power supply is fine for the 1070 and I'm assuming the 1080. SLI gets 2 power supplies I believe. I think there is a program the uses the battery if it needs to during heavy loads but it doesn't impact the battery negatively, it was covered somewhere in this thread. It actually helps performance.

    Mine does it also, I'm assuming it is because it is looking for gpu clock/temp information and with the GPU being disabled it develops an error and crashes. This doesn't answer your question exactly but it doesn't hurt anything not having DC system monitoring with the GPU disabled.
     
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    The side to side viewing angles are very good...nothing like the old TN screens.

    Yes, 330W is plenty for a single nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080. It does not use the battery.

    It comes standard with 2x 230W + Converter box when you get Dual nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 in SLi....which is also plenty.
    .
     
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    I can use Seagate, If you can give it to me for free....who refuses free stuff...... ;)

    Agree Seagate is not reliable anymore and can't trust it with your precious data....I have one seagate drive with 8 bad sector and using it in my acer netbook just for downloading purpose...in timely manner I move the downloaded data....and it's the only purpose (use it to download the data) I thought of this seagate drive...

    SSHD is good, I have one in another HP laptop and it improves the performance, data read and write speed, program opening speed etc as compare to traditional HHD...

    I Saw your signature and I'm not willing to spend above $1000 on a drive whose sole purpose (for me) is to store the data yeah looking for to store movies & games...etc and 2TB is not an option, minimum requirement is 4TB...and mostly this drive will stay in sleep mode...
     
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    330W is not enough and it does use the battery while gaming....GT73VR is kind of hybrid and many users can confirm (including me) that 4 to 6 hours of intense gaming can reduce the battery from 100% to 90% and then charging kicks in, while charging many users said they see slight drop in performance in games, as laptop not getting enough power....
     
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    Is that with the 1080 or 1070?
     
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    It should be more than enough, but MSI have historically limited PSU draw to ridiculously low limits. For example, the GT80S firmware caps draw at 306W for a 330W adapter.
     
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    1080 has 330W and 1070 has 230W PSU

    and both have same behavior, draw power from battery....
     
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    may be it's enough but fact is it's not as it draw power from battery, may be it's firmware causing it but something we cannot mess with....
     
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    It's more than enough. A single 330W is capable of powering even a 6700K and a 1080 just fine. As I said, it's a firmware problem, except MSI advertises it as a feature.
     
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  24. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Same for the Gt70 models who used 180w psu... Under gaming wouldn't the machine draw the rated max wattage from the psu. It would rather have the missing power from the battery.. But when the battery is down to 30%, will the psu start charge again but this time will the wattage from the wall increase to a level higher than the rated 180w from psu. More like + -200w
     
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    It was worse with the GT80S. Instead of pulling more from the wall, they hard capped the CPU at 45W and the GPUs at 105W. Even 980s.
     
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    Hi guys, please help me :(
    My GT73VR 6re having a problem, i just install windows 10 and drivers...., then i restart, all normal, but a black screen and not show anything. Oh my god. I try boot, press buton power... but black screen although window is still running :( :(
     
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    Try to switch the display with fn+f2 key or switch on and off the display by fn+f3 key...if nothing works, try to install the windows again with latest nvidia drivers and install all drivers in suggested sequence on MSI support page of GT73VR 6RE....
     
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    I have to 1070 and I don't have any 6 hour sessions to speak of but I have only had the performance drop once because the battery was nearly dead when I started a session with the battery nearly dead, above a certain point it didn't;' have the issue.

    Way back in this thread I had used a KillaWatt to measure the wattage while using Prime95 and Furmark simultaneously. The wattage was just blow the PSU rating of 230w at 228w. I will get some time with the laptop over the next few days and I'll perform some of the same tests and see what the battery behavior is.

    If anyone want to send me their 1080 version I'll be happy to test it out. ;)
     
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    Logo turn off, i can't do anything :(
     
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    What happens when you hit these buttons? I also think you need to have SCM installed for them to work.
     
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    I tried firestrike last night and scored 15203, time to learn how to overclock for a higher score!

    Also while I didn't test SC2 last night, D3 black screened again at a non intense point. Gsync was off as was Vsync.... I have no idea why D3 started doing this. I downloaded DDU and 376.33 and I will install that driver along with the new firmware .108 today (once I learn how to install it today) and test out SC2 again. I figure if I solve the SC2 problem, it will solve the D3 problem.
     
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    what if you increase the power limits in the BIOS from 200 to 300?
     
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    That doesn't do anything. There is no BIOS setting that controls the EC hybrid power threshold.
     
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    Hey guys! Got a quick question, are there any more differences between the gt73vr 6re and 7re? Except for the obvious CPU change, is there something else that MSI added/change to the newer version 7re? Like the panel perhaps? Cause I saw in HIDevolution that 6re has 17.3" 1920 x 1080 Full HD (1920x1080) 17.3" 1920 x 1080 Full HD (1920x1080) AUO Antiglare Matte Display - 120Hz - 5ms - 94% NTSC Color Gamut
    while in the 7re it's 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) 120Hz 5ms 94%NTSC TN Matte LCD w/ G-Sync Technology.

    In the 6re there's no g-sync and it's AUO while in 7re it has g-sync but not AUO

    Are there other differences between the two? Thank you so much guys!
     
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    The AUO was a mistake on our website for the 6RE (it is the Chi Mei N173HHE-G32-), which has now been corrected, as has the lack of G-Sync.
    .
     
  36. Shehary

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    anybody have connected one or two or three external displays with this laptop.....?

    also who else updated the GTX1080 vbios, can you please report back... :cool:
     
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    The 6RE is also advertised to have GSYNC on HIDevolution:
    LCD Panel *

    The 17.3" 1920 x 1080 Full HD (1920x1080) Antiglare Matte Display - 120Hz - 5ms - 94% NTSC Color Gamut will give you the most vibrant imagery possible in a laptop! It also works beautifully in direct sunlight.

    • 17.3" 1920 x 1080 Full HD (1920x1080) Antiglare Matte Display - 120Hz - 5ms - 94% NTSC Color Gamut w/ G-Sync Technology


    Its just the CPU and in gaming, the difference between the two is minimal to be honest. They even have the same storage slots, 2x m.2 NVMe slots + one 2.5inch slot for an SSD or HDD

    The 6RE is hugely discounted now I see: http://www.hidevolution.com/msi-gt73vr-6re-titan-017.html
     
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    I wonder if the power limit threshold is raised when there is an OC present? I've noticed my battery drains a little faster in turbo compared to sport mode.
     
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    how easy is it to swap the battery when it dies?
     
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    Very. Take the cover off, unplug, replace. The battery is only held in by the bottom cover.
     
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    thanks man
     
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    I have a acer predator xb1 27" 2560x1440 monitor hooked up via DP and no issues at all.

    I never updated the vbios nor the main bios. I just don't have any issues requiring it.

    Never touch a running system.

    Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
     
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    When you execute a game, does the external display screen goes black for couple of seconds....?

    I have 2 external displays connected, one HDMI and other via miniDP but display connected via HDMI always goes blank for couple of seconds when executing game...I thought may be it's because of HDMI port so I switch it to USB Type C port but same behavior...
     
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    No such thing on the DP connection. Haven't hooked anything yet using hdmi.

    Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
     
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    yeah, I also have no problem on DP connection only on HDMI or Type C
     
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    Will try tonight when I get back home.

    Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
     
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    anyone knows what is difference between deargon Center --> System Tuner tab--> comfort , Eco and sport ?
    Also why after update the dragon center the Fnkey on bottom-left (System tuner tab) removed !!
    Thank you
     
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    Different settings will give you different clock speeds/fan speeds.

    For example:
    Eco will stay at lower clocks.. and maybe fans as well to save power. [CPU Turbo off] [GPU low freq/power use]
    Comfort makes it so its balanced with performance and temperature. [CPU Turbo on] [GPU boost] [Clocks will depend on temperature]
    Sport will probably go with turbo clocks, on the old DC sport is what turbo is now. [CPU Turbo on] [GPU boost]
    Turbo you can set overclocks on all cores, you can overclock GPU as well and have custom fan tables. [CPU Turbo + OC] [GPU boost + OC] [Auto/Cooler Boost fans]


    [​IMG]
    Permit you to manually adjust the CPU and GPU to overclock the system, and still keep down the system temperature and noise level. (Non-K CPU models only support overclocking on GPU. AC mode only.)


    [​IMG]
    Boost system to higher clock setups to satisfy your need of speed. Fan speed will be accelerated to make the platform stable and keep the CPU and GPU temperature lower. (AC mode only)

    [​IMG]
    When in need of a quiet environment, comfort mode is your perfect choice. It sets the system to a balanced, stable status, but still keeps dynamic and high performance. (AC mode only)

    [​IMG]
    Keep lower power consumption for normal computing works, such as office works or video live demos.

    [​IMG]
    Switch between different power schemes while maintaining higher system performance and fan speed or select battery mode for longer battery life.
     
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