***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

I noticed any game that runs with high utilization, discharges my battery. Saw it with Hwmonitor and saw the small mah being used.

Maybe your CPU heatsink is not properly seated. A repaste and careful seating of the heatsink could help with your cores being more uniform.

 

what happened to it?

 

I was only 12 min into rendering a simple video and notice how core 1 is more than 10 C higher... this never used to happen before...

 

did you happen to have any black screen issues? where the computer screen just goes dead and forces you to hold the power down for 10 seconds?

 

Hey everyone, I know this is a dumb question, but does the HTC Vive work on the GT80 with the dual 980ms? If so, how is the performance on VR titles?

 

it works ok. i ended up sending mine back for refund b/c resolution really isnt good enough yet

 

I know how you feel with resolution and VR. I have a dk2, and the resolution is pretty crappy. Did the games have good performance, or did most games just not work?

 

well i didnt buy any but the lab is the only sli game and i didnt see many frame drops or anything but other stuff had frame drops and lagged and some demos made me sick

 

where should i go to get this fixed considering the heatsink might be warped?

 

Do you think an HTC vive would be worth getting? I have an idea of what to expect since I have a dk2, but I just want to make sure the GT80 can handle the vive. Edit: sorry the post accidentally posted twice.

 

im also having this issue where the screen goes black... anyone else having it?

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AuMOrXc4ORHplZxQt1MO2Pz-WVNcIg

The screen goes black and stuff....
@MSI Myco
@MSIGeno

 

I love my vive and I have had no real issues with it. I have about 6 games and I have shown the vive to several people, all successfully. Keep in mind that SLI in VR is not a thing right now, and the support is very minimal, to non existant. You will rely mostly on single GPU performance. As such, 980m is like the minimum for VR, so you can definitely play but graphics and performance might not be optimal.

I don't think I have any demanding games nor have I noticed many performance issues, but since we are on the lowest end for VR, games do show low resolution etc. Maybe with Pascal upgrade we will have more luck.

I had that issue only at first, with unstable overclocks. I haven't had such an issue in a LOOONG time by now, to the point I even forgot I had it. As for the vive resolution, turns out that most games just render at lower resolution to begin with, mainly because the graphics horsepower is not there yet. There is a new setting you can use for rendering scale, but 980m is not good enough.

 

I'm getting it without overclocking

 

MSI RMA, or XoticPC RMA, since your laptop is still in the 2 year warranty period.

Even if you need to pay, voided warranty due to your runaway robot crash, MSI / XoticPC can fix it best.

 

The 980 Desktop Mobile is the only laptop GPU certified to support VR spec of at least a 970 desktop CPU performance.

 

So, does the 980m not work at all, or does it just perform sluggishly? I know that Optimus laptops don't work with the Vive, but I don't think the GT80 supports Optimus if I'm not mistaken.

 

Not a single MSI GT80 has Optimus, none.

Read @mason2smart 's comments, he had a Vive and returned it.

Mason had bad performance on his GT80S 980m SLI with the Vive, and some games made him sick.

Mason only used the light weight "training wheels" stuff that came with the Vive, and didn't purchase more demanding games because the pack'ins weren't performing well on 980m.

Mason also thought the resolution was too low.

The 980m isn't enough to support VR Oculus or Vive except on the least demanding use, and even then it's dropping frames and borderline usable. And, PC SLI VR isn't supported in any 3rd party games yet.

Don't get a GT80 SLI 980m for PC VR, or any other 980m laptop for PC VR.

Better yet, don't waste your money on any PC VR.

You will get a great gaming experience with non-VR PC games on the GT80 SLI 980m and other 980m laptops.

Wait for a couple of years for technology to catch up with what a usable PC VR needs. And, wait until there are games worth playing on PC VR, so far, there is nothing like you would expect from a AAA PC game.

The Playstation VR might be worth checking out if enough good games are available at release.

 

I agree and decided it wasn't worth a repaste at this time.
Yesterday I undervolted the CPU -100mv and also used rivatuner to limit my FPS to 100 (using an external 144hz Gsync 1440p). That seems to have dropped the load and temps significantly and I can see no visual difference in performance. Next I'll probably try removing the frame limiter and seeing what just the undervolt can do.

Appreciate all the feedback, loving this new beast

 

This.
I've tried both the Vive and O.R on my desktop (w/ a GTX970 & GTX 1080).
Never really saw any issues with performance, but it was surprising to me how "bad" the resolution is, that's probably my biggest complaint. You don't notice it as much in some of the Valve specific VR games, but some of the others (IE: Project Cars), it was fairly obvious and more so the farther an object was from you (at least for me). Text was particularly poor.

Running some older 2D stuff using Vorpx was fairly entertaining but usually nauseating as well.

Give it a few years and we'll have better hardware and games (or nothing will come of it and you'll have saved your cash and headache).

 

What I saw is available for Oculus was really disappointing.. I mean.. except for EVE, every other game looks like those available for Gear VR. How is it even possible that the most powerful laptops aren't able to run better graphics than a phone? It surely isn't hardware. If Note 5 had graphics more powerful than 2 980s in SLI, why are we spending thousands of dollars for the best laptop? And why there is no Witcher 3 for Android then?
One of secondary reasons, why I purchased this particular laptop was, that according to a MSI website, it IS Vr ready.

 

MSI lists the SLI/single GPU 980m models as VR Ready. VR Ready must mean something different to MSI than the rest of us expect. I wonder what specification MSI are using to label 980m laptops as "VR Ready"?

Only the 980 desktop mobile GPU is VR Certified as fast enough to support the VR minimum spec of a single 970 desktop GPU.

There is a big difference between a 980m and a 980 desktop mobile GPU, the 980 is 35% faster than the 980m.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-...35-faster-gtx-980m-full-overclocking-support/

No other MSI laptop should be listed as VR Ready according to the minimum requirement of a 970 desktop GPU performance.

There 2 GT80S 980 SLI models, and a couple of GT72S 980 single GPU models.

Here are the 2 GT80S SLI 980 models:

https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT80S-6QF-Titan-SLI-29th-Anniversary-Edition.html#hero-overview

https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT80S-TITAN-SLI-6th-Gen-GTX-980-SLI.html#hero-overview

Here are the single 980 GT72S models:

Note, this one has a 4k screen, which is not recommended for gaming on a laptop - even this GPU has trouble getting good framerates at 4k gaming, so you would be running it at 1080p for games, less sharp.
https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT72S-Dominator-Pro-4K-6th-Gen-GTX-980.html#hero-overview

https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT72S-Dominator-Pro-G-6th-Gen-GTX-980.html#hero-overview

https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT72S-Dominator-Pro-G-Dragon-6th-Gen-GTX-980.html#hero-overview

We need to wait for the 1080m/1070m/1080/1070 laptops to be released, then they will get labeled as to their VR Capable status.

Update: MSI used to specify only the 980 Desktop Mobile laptops and the M5000M as being VR Ready:

MSI says it's the only brand offering VR-Ready notebooks certified by Intel and HTC (980 single and SLI, M5000M)
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/msi-certified-vr-gaming-notebook/

Newegg only lists 980 single and 980 SLI laptops as Virtual Reality Ready:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100157995 601188382&cm_sp=VRCentral-_-product-_-laptop-_-na

 

Fair enough, thanks for the in-depth answer! I'll probably just stick with the dk2 for now.

 

I don't know. Thix one: https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT80S-TITAN-SLI-6th-Gen-GTX-980M-SLI.html#hero-overview
has 980m sli in it and it says VR ready.
Maybe it shouldn't, but it does.

 

MSI used to only specify the 980 desktop mobile GPU as VR Ready, just like everyone else

MSI says it's the only brand offering VR-Ready notebooks certified by Intel and HTC (980 single and SLI, M5000M)
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/msi-certified-vr-gaming-notebook/

Now MSI also lists single 980m and SLI 980m's - which can't be VR Ready based on VR Certification minimum requirement of at least a desktop 970 GPU performance.

If you want to do VR on your new laptop, cancel the 980m SLI order and get a single 980 or SLI 980 laptop.

Or, better yet, cancel and wait for the SLI 1080(m)'s to come out to decide what to get.

The 1080/1070 have "VR optimizations" that are supposed to help performance.

 

Gee, the 980m is perfectly capable of running current VR games. I just pointed out that 980m is the bare minimum, despite being a very capabe GPU, because VR is very demanding.

I will try to give reviews for the games I do have but I am definitely enjoying my games and vive with only a 980m.

Pascal GPU will definitely give a big boost but for the time being me, my wife, friends and coworkers thoroughly enjoyed the games I showed them.

You just have to have realistic expectations. The tech is definitely amazing and the presence you get with room scale blows away seated/standing experiences.

 

That's nice

I wouldn't recommend someone spend $4k+ right now on a 980m SLI laptop if they want to run VR long term, would you?

I wouldn't recommend someone buy a Rift or Vive if they only have a 980m SLI and expect to use it long term; they will want to upgrade the laptop, or at least the GPU's soon.

VR software isn't very demanding right now, but that won't last long, hopefully

Are you running your VR Software at full resolution and highest "game" settings capable on the Vive?

Both Vive and Rift have the 970 desktop GPU as the minimum, which is 30% faster than a single 980m:

Spoiler: Minimum Requirements for VR

 

Oh if you are planing of going the VR route, SLI isnt an answer. You would be better off with a GT72.

But getting a maxwell GPU right now is not the best idea anymore anyways. We've had 980m for a long time now and if you really want the best, its gotta be the next GT series

For VR the best course would be a desktop. But if you already have a laptop with 980m, there is nothing wrong with using a Vive. VR is here to stay and at least for this year and the next, you wont see changes in the actual headset.

Edit: oh and 970 is only about 15% faster than a 980m definitely achievable with an overclock. 980 is still stronger than that and a slightly better choice, but with pascal around, might as well go for that

 

So I cracked my screen today... and now im wondering how to get a replacement. I can't seem to find a replacement screen anywhere. Apparently, no one wants to sell 18.4" screens.

What do I do? Do I have to contact MSI for repairs perhaps?

 

Naah. VR is not that important for me at this moment. I just wanted to be ready if miracle happens and somebody would come out with a decent game or app.
I'm just surprised and quite disappointed by this whole overhyped VR thing.
First the Gear VR.. I thought "Meh, but that Oculus will be so much better, REAL VR experience". Turns out, the difference isn't worth the price tag. IMHO

 

If you are the original owner, and register your laptop, you can file a ticket with MSI and request a repair. You may have to pay for it yourself if the damage was your own fault, but if it was a manufacturing defect that caused the crack then MSI will cover it.

https://register.msi.com/home/login

 

When you register your new GT80S with MSI you could ask MSI what they define as VR Ready, and what VR hardware is supported.

Please come back and let us know what MSI says

 

I don't think I'm gonna bother.
There is nothing on any VR platforms available right now I'm really interested in.
But I think the fact that two GTX 980m cannot run those quite lame games currently available, is quite ridiculous.
I mean... what is SO graphically demanding on those simplistic games I saw so far is beyond my compression.
Note 5 can run those.
And in higher resolution.

 

XOTIC PC has some "accidental damage" coverage, but I don't know what is exactly covered, how that works, and where you got your gt80 from.

I know that when I broke the screen on my laptop, I sent it to XOTIC PC and they fixed it quite quickly. It did cost me about 1/5 of the whole laptop price, but still cheaper than a new one. One has to pay for one's screwups. I certainly did. That was many years ago.

 

Hello,

Is it possible to automatically activate the numPad at start of Windows (10) ?

 

It's not that two 980m can't run those games... as I explained many times already haha, VR games are not using SLI, so you are running on a single 980m, and that is ENOUGH to run the games. But, again as I said, it is akin to being the minimum recommended because any lower than that and you will experience issues.

Job simuator, Fantastic contraption, Tilt Brush, Holopoint, Brookhaven experiment, The Lab, Hover Junkers, all of those run at the designed framerate and have made no one sick over here hahaha. Resolution can be tweaked now, but 980m is not possible to push.

Just to give you an idea, in a game like project cars, you can run it with medium settings with a GTX 1080. That's how demanding VR is.

As for VR being disappointed, it has to do with the games. To be honest, Room-scale is the game changer. Once the Rift releases the touch controllers and you can set it up for room scale, the experience is quite something.

Gear VR is way too entry level, including low refresh rate etc. It's nice to get people interested I guess, but the experience holds nothing against the big VR players like the Vive. Games on vive HAVE to run at 90fps and render with as low latency, low frame variance as possible. Phones don't have nearly the horsepower to run those games, and instead use tricks including prerendered frames to help the experience.

So you could say the GT80 is capable enough to actually run current VR games, but not the ideal choice. If by some miracle devs use SLI, we will be golden but for the time being if VR is your goal, the Titan is not optimal.

Nvidia, hurry out with the damm pascal GPUs!

Possibly yeah with a startup script. First find out if you can toggle the keypad via a software command. If you can, then you can create a script or batch file to run at startup and enable it.

OR maybe look into the settings of the touchpad haha, maybe something there can be enabled?

 

Any news from MSI regarding an upgrade kit for the GPUs?

 

Oh, trust me, I am bugging everyone I know trying to find out, but no dice hahahaha

Gotta be patient. Once I find out anything I will let you guys know

 

Well, thanks for thorough explanation (as usual)
I'll see what they'll come up with. Until there is some kind of "Witcher" in VR, I can do without it.

 

Witcher 3 Developer CD Projekt RED Says VR “Not Alpha, it’s an Early Beta”
https://www.vrfocus.com/2016/03/witcher-3-developer-cd-projekt-says-vr-not-alpha-its-an-early-beta/

VorpX 0.9 is Now Released, Adds Async Timewarp, Witcher 3 and Star Wars Classics Support
http://www.roadtovr.com/vorpx-0-9-i...arp-witcher-3-and-star-wars-classics-support/

 

Riiiight... Can I cuss on this forum? Rhetoric question.
I'm VERY curious about Hololens as well BTW.

 

I guess i need to switch to windows 10... Until is for free....
It is working fine now?


Sorry for the /ot

Nobody is interested to what i sell (see signature)?
At the end i never tried to use bios to oc my beast.... So i sell...

 

Lol I never got the games that came with the vive I played free demos and the lab

Some of the demos made me sick. Especially those with motion blur

I did buy project cars though

 

time to upgrade to gt83 ryzeki, its got 3 fans!

 

any good guy can answer?

 

http://www.startlr.com/s-msi-gt83-titan-sli-with-two-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-photo-and-video-live/

 

Windows ten is good

 

OK, so the monster was delivered today. Now I ran into problems from get go. 1. No burnrecovery tool. They said, that after XOTIC PC installed the Windows on the upgraded Samsung 950 PRO, it's basically clean Windows install and not MSI OEM setup anymore, therefore burnrecovery wouldn't work and is not included. No biggie, I've received the drivers and utilities DVD and I can install Win 10 from scratch. But I've got a bigger one. I installed another 950 PRO and tried to setup RAID. No dice. I followed the video included in manual, but when I set RAID in BIOS anmd Legacy boot, both SSDs disappear. The ctrl-I brings up the page, where I'm supposed to setup RAID, but the disks aren't recognized. With regular ACPI mode, everything is fine, but one can't setup RAID of course.
Techsup is already home drinking beer so I'll have to wait 'till tomorrow to ask for help. Unless someone gives me some pointers here.

Btw... why the 1TB HDD doesn't appear in Windows? Anyone knows? It shows up in BIOS just fine.

 

Update the bios

 

The bios number I found on MSI is the same I've got. (E1814IMS.111)

 

Do you just need to assign a letter path for it in the Hard Disk Manager?