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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. stank0

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    Sure. That's true. But IMHO this is just nitpicking. We are talking about multi jigabyte transfer speeds. I'm astonished how far the technology got in just a few years. Just a few years ago we were salivating over 10,000RPM HDD with transfer speeds around 200MB/s ;)

    Your laptop is just afew months old. I don't believe dust plays any role in your problem/ Even if you had 10 cats. I'm afraid it's time to think about filling out that dreaded RMA form. I suspect bad paste job, but it might be something else entirely.
     
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    doesnt change the fact that the cool air from intake is used on gpu heatsink first, even at say 60-70c, the air coming out of that is 60-70c which is used onto CPU heatsink while the intake is room temperate at say 20-25c.. so there you have an idea why cpu is always so hot, even if your GPU is not being used, the air used to cool CPU defaults to at a higher temperature.


    961 is much better in terms of throttling heating compared to 950 and 951 which is what you have right now lol. i guess you havent read the review yet on tomshardware.
     
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    not nitpicking actually, once you understand how to make a computer really snappy, its all about ram, storage and cpu tbh. the scenario i have listed for you takes biggest advantage out of sequential read/write if you dont use them, then its a waste, and sadly thats what 99.999% of consumer look at, sequential number.

    QD1-2 is mostly what people will use for, its not exactly easy to constantly have high QD4-6 unless you run server or professional workload. sequentially, NVMe SSDs can run at 2GB/s yet traditional SSD 2.5" runs at 500MB/s but when loading in most application, your NVMe SSDs arent 4x as fast, now you know why :). 10000rpm and 15k RPM HDD are sold to enterprise not because of their sequential, but because their high spin rate hence the lower latency on 4k random read/write performance and of course quality..
     
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    I think the robot runover might have something to do with it. Or the rain. :) mason you better get your machine fixed ;) I do remember you asking if one core having more temp was normal, but if that's happening, maybe your heatsink is not sitting properly.
     
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    u know u want a gt83, get one
     
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    It didn't get wet lol.
     
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    Precisely! I cannot do without a computer so I'm going to have to replace before I can send it in
     
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    Hopefully with a gt83 :)

    I just got my first job and I get paid for passing my ap tests and I passed all my ap tests!
     
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    And your point with your stellar 961 exactly being...?
    950PRO is significantly slower only in one segment of this particular test.
    Please explain to me how is this gonna make any significant difference in daily use.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I know I want three fans, but I can't buy one at the moment :) I will have to settle with upgrade GPU.
     
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    When MSI GT83 start selling? I read the spec that it will still uses 980 SLI instead of 1080 SLI?
    btw, does the GT80S still have throttling problem?
     
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    sory double post
     
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    Wrong forum bro -- not likely to have 980 sli that was a very old rumor
     
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    Sorry, I stand corrected - just checked my nvidia settings, and indeed I do have Doom manually set to AFR2. For me it increases performance compared to single GPU, but apparently this does not work for everyone. Its very dependent on which driver you are running, and which cards you have. I'm using 365.19 drivers.
     
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    I'm running 368.22
     
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    So last night, I went to sleep with perfectly configured computer. Today I wake up and one BSOD after another. Even underclocked it to 38-38-37-36. I try to run benchmark in XTU... BSOD within 5 seconds.
    And the clock 41 was keeping coming back even after I deleted that profile and uninstalled Dragon Gaming.
    So I did the BIOS reset as a last resort before reinstalling windows again.
    First thing I did after fresh start, I ran the XTU benchmark. Stable as rock (so far).
    @mason2smart maybe you could try to do the BIOS reset too to see if it helps your problem.
    I sure as hell have no clue what went wrong while the computer was turned off.
     
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    I don't oc via bios... Do I reset with that cord or within the bios?
     
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    If you oc the cpu with XTU, it writes to bios automatically.
    Yes. Unplug that cmos battery wire I was talking about and then stick a paperclip or tiny screwdriver to that tiny reset hole on the bottom of your laptop and keep it there for at least 30 seconds. Then plug the battery back in and plug the AC power in and push the start button. It will take a while before it'll start doing anything so don't panic.
     
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    on the bottom of the laptop? where?
     
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    When you look at the bottom chassis, you'll see a little pinhole. You can't miss it. There's only one ;)
     
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    I've just undervolted the cpu by 120mV and running it @3.8GHz. Not stable enough for Witcher but everything else besides games runs just fine and XTU benchmark was only about 60 marks worse than my best run with cpu @4.2 +50mV

    Update: Stable enough even for Witcher. Looks like I had a problem with specific save. It was crashing regardless of clock speed.
     
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    I figured out why my computer was crashing this morning.
    It looks like it decided today, after perfectly good and fruitful run yesterday, that it all of the sudden stopped liking my Ripjaws running @2800Mhz. As soon as I changed it back to 2400, everything is solid even undervolted.
     
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    they arent that much different in daily use, but the picture you posted i believe its raid 0, while the sm961 i showed u is a single drive. the biggest noticeable difference is that, sm961 single drive being at 65MB/s 4k random performance where as yours show 51MB/s and this is completely due to new flash, controller and overall firmware improvement that lowers the latency.

    if you ever wanted to know why SSD is so much faster and snappier than HDD, its the 4k read/write you should be looking at, not the sequential LOL.

    for jumps, you're going from 51MB/s to 65MB/s which arent much different only slight percentage increase, however from HDD which should be at around 2-4MB/s of the same 4k random read test to 51MB/s is a huge difference.

    when intel's optane SSD hits, it'll be like 300-400 MB/s hopefully almost like ram speed, as a storage device. pretty much at that point, the only thing thats holding everything down in a system is the software coding that can't take advantage of new cpu instruction.
     
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    Just switch to HyperX -- have not had any problems with.my ram
     
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    I might need some help OC'ing my CPU...
     
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    Vulkan API doesn't work well for me. I had a few issues within the game as long loading times and frame lost. I already upgraded the GPU drivers, now i have to configure vulkan in any particular way ? The game runs well with all graphic settings including ultra nightmares with Open Gl 4.5
     
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    That would be too much trouble. I don't think XOTIC would just send me new memory sticks. I'd have to RMA my computer.
    At 2400Mhz my RAM doesn't give me any trouble either.
    Bummer is that I paid for 2800Mhz.

    I WAS wondering if I'm wasting my money going for the fastest RAM.
    So far it looks like I did. I don't see any, or very minor difference between running 2800 and the 2400Mhz.
    That's for people who, like me, are trying to decide what RAM they should get.
    Get any brand name sticks and you'll be fine.
    Even 2133Mhz would be just fine.
     
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    LOL Dude, didn't you have problems running it even at stock frequency?

    BTW, overclocking CPU does make a difference in benchmarking or if you doing things like video processing.
    It doesn't make enough difference in games or daily use to be worth this kind of troubles.
    If you want smoother games, overclock you GPUs. That's where the fps are. ;)
    Do it at your own risk. What works for me, might not work for you.
    I'm not using Afterburner because it has locked voltage.
    I'm using EVGA Precision now and before it was nVidia inspector.
    I don't think I could reach such speeds with stock voltage. Now I'm running core +135 and memory +565. Temperature never went over 82C on one and 78C on second. (edit: under load ie benchmarking, gaming )
    But I've got the cooling upgrade from XOTIC which are a few additional copper cubes attached to the heatpipes.
    How much difference it's really make I can't tell you, because I never ran my laptop without them, so I don't have any point of reference.
    Good luck and have fun. :)
     
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    I need suggestion (more like clear instruction step by step guide) to overclock my CPU up to 50% from default clock. My cpu is 5950HQ @2900MHz... so I need the clock to be more than 4350MHz.

    Using MSI dragon gaming center with sport + high performance + max fan speed, the cpu clock only risen up to 3800MHz with max temperature of 60C (I only ran 1 session of 3DMark, then switch back to low profile).

    i only need the OC for one session of 3DMark benchmark.
     
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    The easiest way to overclock CPU is with XTU (Intel Extreme Tuning Utility). But since your processor is locked, your overclocking options will be limited. The only way you can do it is by raising multipliers, but I don't know how far it'll let you. My CPU would let me to overclock up to 8300Mhz just by multipliers. Of course that's purely theoretical value because you'd have to cool it with liquid hydrogen (and even then I don't think so) ;) Max I can do and remain relatively stable is 4300Mhz. I could also raise reference clock (you can't), but I'm not brave enough to mess with that snakepit.
    You can't mess anything up by raising multipliers too far. Maximally you get a BSOD. When you restart, your multipliers will be back at safe value.
    Try to raise the multipliers, apply the changes and if your laptop won't get a stroke right away, run the benchmark that is built-in XTU, which is fairly quick. If it won't crash by then, then you run whatever benchmark you want to do.
    And... as usual.. Do at your own risk. Don't yell at me if your laptop goes up in flames LOL
    I'm pretty sure YouTube has a plenty of instructional videos how to overclock. Maybe even for your specific CPU.

    Edit: I just noticed the reason you want to overclock. CPU overclock won't help you much in 3dmark. For that benchmark you need to push your GPU(s) to 11.
     
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    I don't see the option to run with Vulcan...
     
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    I do video editing all the time
     
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    I still have the highest benchmark :) and my GPU temps when I got my laptop maxed out at 80c
     
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    Well, I will have to wait and see if my temps will go up as well over time. :)
     
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    Hey everyone, I just wanted to ask if anybody else gets screen tearing on the steam client. I have had it for a very long time, and I still have it even after receiving the computer from another RMA today. I am on a GT80 SLI-263 and I am running Windows 10.
     
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    Yes that's an issue with steam
     
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    On average how fast was your turn-around time for an RMA?
     
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    I would say from the time I sent it to the time I got it back was around three weeks or so.
     
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    Also, this is gonna be a bit of a weird question, but do you play gta 5? If so, does your screen flicker whenever you shoot your weapon (especially at night)? I have had this happen to me for months, and I haven't been able to find a fix.
     
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    That sounds like a graphic issue. What drivers are you running on? Maybe reinstall using DDU as something might have been installed improperly.

    Also steam does have screen tearing. It's a problem with the steam client and apparently only the Beta mode has vsync that prevents it, but I haven't tried it. Anyways yeah, steam does have screen tearing with mine and other 3 computers I use.
     
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    Nope :) or I haven't noticed
     
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    I have tried running the steam beta, and the screen tearing still persists. I have also used DDU multiple times, and the flickering on gta, along with all of the other issues I have, still persist.
     
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    Are you on Windows 8.1 or Windows 10?
     
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    10. Mess with ur gta5 settings...
     
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    Having a problem in doom still... Now running at 60 Fps but it's still glitching/lagging on screen???????
     
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    I often have the same issue on first boot of the game. Usually if I quit the game and reload its OK. No idea why.
     
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    Eternal loading times with doom and Vulkan API, perharps it needs some fix
     
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    I have not been overly impressed with the doom textured and feel as if they lack some depth and detail... Does it have a higher res texture option?
     
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    Hate how apple treats customers now... I show up early and they are like oh u have to wait 45 minutes even though they obviously have free technicians...
     
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