***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

Win 10 has been causing various video related issues, even killing monitors by altering firmware data!

Do as Meaker said and dl a Win 8 install disk. I'm not sure how that will work if you don't have your Win 8 key but it may get rid of the stuttering. If not you will at least have eliminated the OS as the problem.

 

Either download a clean OS and spend the time to load drivers and utilities, or you can order the recovery discs from MSI directly which will get the job done with ease.

 

Even you didn't create a backup USB after Windows 10 upgrade you can still try to look for MSI Burn Recovery Program that was installed on Windows 8.1. So if you can prepare a 32GB USB flash drive and launch the program you should be able to create the factory image if the partition wasn't wiped out.

He doesn't need Win 8 key since Windows installation will read the digital product key embedded in the BIOS.

 

If you did not format the drives then you can use the factory recovery option. Turn the computer off then back on, as soon as you hit the power button start continually pressing F3 and it should get you into the console.

 

I did format the drives, but it's ok. I was able to create a media image on a usb stick for 8.1 64bit and then used the disk provided by msi to load all the drivers, so now i'm on 8.1 waiting for dirt rally to download and see if it fixed the issues. I did notice 8.1 to me more responsive and thing loaded much faster than 10.... So it looks go so far I'll update once i'm able to run a stage or 2 and see what it does. I didn't update any drivers and left them all exaclty as they came on the msi driver disk.

Edit: sli now smooth as a baby's bottom Windows 10 was the culprit! Save yourself the headache and stay with 8.1 for now.... I'm saying this from very clearly detailed posts on the problems I had in SLI with 10... Thank you all for your help and consideration

 

Glad you got it figured out!

 

Win10 is gonna need a lot of time to shape up.
1. Microsoft
2. MSI & component manufacturers

 

Nvidia did release some SLI based hotfix drivers, but for a lot of people waiting is a good idea.

 

MSI ANNOUNCES SKYLAKE MODELS!!!!


http://www.pcworld.com/article/2978...d-thunderbolt-3-0-for-new-gaming-laptops.html

 

Yup, it's on every tech site.
Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/02/msi-skylake/
PCWorld:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2978...d-thunderbolt-3-0-for-new-gaming-laptops.html
Hexus:
http://hexus.net/tech/news/laptop/86036-gigabyte-msi-announce-new-skylake-powered-gaming-laptops/

 

FYI this will not work, if you upgrade to Windows 10 or clean install Windows 10 then the Recovery Menu that comes up when pressing F3 during startup will only bring up Windows 10 Recovery options.

If you upgraded from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10, then there will be an option within Windows 10 settings to revert back to Windows 8.1 first, then from Windows 8.1 the Recovery Menu that comes up when pressing F3 during startup will bring up the correct options.

If you clean installed Windows 10, this option will not work, trying to set the partition as active using a partition program might help, I haven't tried it, as since clean installing Windows 10 and only using driver installs from MSI website and Windows 10 automatic updates, I haven't had any issues. Other than the stupid Windows 10 blurryness that affects all systems.

 

Should this be done anyway? Even without experiencing sli stutter issues

 

chronoshift, tried it already, didn't make much difference, was expecting dropped performance on CPU, but actually it was pretty close - you could try it for yourself

Depends on the game whether it helps or hurts, but since there wasn't much difference I didn't pursue it further. If you move it from GPU to CPU, then CPU has less headroom - on a CPU intensive game that could reduce fps.

IDK, but I assume Nvidia might make that choice on a game by game basis - maybe hints from GeForce Experience game settings?

 

I don't even have geforce experience installed after the latest driver issue that was causing everyone's laptop to stutter.

 

chronoshift, must have missed that, my GT80 hasn't stuttered in games, and I have run mostly with and briefly without GFE since I got it.

If you don't apply the tunings, you shouldn't have a problem. If you have a problem, unoptimize the game through GFE and see if the problem stops.

The early GFE bugs have been fixed, so it might be time to try it again

 

Which will stretch into forever, if they don't stop/reverse taking our privacy away.

So, add a 3rd and 4th item.

3. US Government
4. US Citizens and Residents.

And, of course, what foreign Citizen is going to allow the US to take their information and private files? So, better add a 5th item:

5. The World.

I think a simple admission of being forced to do this by the US Government, and a complete redaction of the privacy invading code will be the minimum people will accept. It will still be difficult to trust them for quite a while, they will need to be on much better behavior moving forward.

 

Don't think you missed it, there was at least 4-5 people complaining about it all at once, you were around, guess you didn't experience it yourself though

 

chronoshift, please send me a link or 2 to remind me

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-official-msi-gt80-titan-owners-lounge.769092/page-266

starting with exenhero

 

chronoshift, you are mixing issues. The predominant problem on that page, one I responded to, is the Killer default app tuning causing network/game lag.

It had nothing to do with GFE.

And exenhero was complaining of reboots when he started Office Word, nothing to do with either of the other issues.

You may have turned off / uninstalled GFE during that, but it wasn't actually involved in any of those issues.

You can reinstall GFE again

 

Thanks for the info, I was not aware that if you upgrade from 8.1 to 10 that the recovery console also updates to Windows 10.

 

Not mixing issues, look at the posts right afterwards

 

chronoshift, if you right click over the post #, it will give you a URL directly to that post.

Did you mean these?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...n-owners-lounge.769092/page-266#post-10071113

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...n-owners-lounge.769092/page-266#post-10071246

They are talking about the whole Nvidia driver package release, but some people refer to them as the Geforce Drivers, because Nvidia does via the Driver Drop down wording.

The Geforce drivers are the whole package, usually meaning the video driver release, not GFE specifically, unless they call out GFE explicitly.

Some people had problems with the 355.60 release, I didn't have any issues until MGSV, but I am on a Broadwell SLI-263, there might have been issues specific to their games or their model of GT80. Now I am on 355.82, and MGSV is working great

Again, go ahead and reinstall the GFE if you like it, as it likely wasn't part of their problem - they even mention problems happening outside of games.

 

Found this on toms hardware



The main one we are concerned about is the GT80 Titan. Please let us know if/when they will refresh this laptop with Skylake, and what processor will they use.

For those of you who are are up to date with the Intel's mobile processors, the GT80 Titan is currently equipped with the Broadwell i7-5950HQ. If MSI will replace that processor with the Skylake i7-6700HQ, then it would be questionable refresh. The i7-5950HQ is superior to the Skylake i7-6700HQ in speed (300 MHz more Base & 200-600 MHz more Turbo Clock), but the i7-5950HQ is inferior in that it does not support DDR4, and consumes SLIGHTY more power, exactly 2 watts more (which is peanuts).

In my professional opinion, it would be a bad decision to refresh the GT80 Titan with the latest Skylake mobile processor, and they should continue to use the Broadwell mobile processor and sacrifice the support for DDR4. Everyone has their own opinions, however I feel that the increased processor speed that the Broadwell i7-5950HQ has over it's Sylake successor to be more significant, and it's not worth sacrificing that processor speed just to gain DDR4 support.

If you agree with me, like this comment. If you disagree, feel free to dislike this comment.

For a full comparison of the processors, you can view it here:
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/7/...5950HQ_vs_Intel_Core_i7_Mobile_i7-6700HQ.html

 

Why is he talking about the HQ? Wouldn't msi put an hk in it?

 

mason2smart, unknown at this time. But, I think if you look at the date on his post, it was the 6700HQ that was being talked about at the time. Maybe you can provide a link to the post/article.

Also, I have to agree with him, in intent if not in details, I didn't think the first gen Skylake, at least those being offered in the first Quarter of launch, were going to beat the 5950HQ by much if anything.

And, the other items of interest, the USB-C, PCIe x4 M.2, and TB3 weren't going to tip the scales enough for me to wish I had waited.

And, now we hear that USB-C is missing from GT80/GT72.

There are only 2 PCIe M.2 slots - so a max of 1TB of high speed SSD in 2280 (80mm) M.2 form factor - the larger 1TB M.2 PCIe's seem to only be available in the larger 22110 (110mm) M.2 form factor right now.

So the 4x 512GB M.2 SATA GT80 models provide 2x the storage potential at 2TB. A bit slower yes, but still fast @ over 1600MB/sec

And TB3 is also missing from the new GT80?

Although the memory bandwidth throughput is higher in the Skylake CPU spec, the first run DDR4 SODIMM's @ 2133mhz, are likely to be the same speed or slower than the DDR3L SODIMM 2133mhz.

There is no reason to not get the GT80 Skylake when it comes out, it's just that it isn't better in enough areas. Any?

We don't know until it comes out, but it will be fun to see.

IMHO, all the 980m SLI GT80's perform about the same, and are equally desirable

 

Do you think it will get some sort of 990m?

 

There is already oc'd ddr4 ram I believe.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...ddr4-2400-128gb-quad-channel-memory,4195.html

 

Do you think it will get some sort of 990m?

 

mason2smart, we really don't know what the 990m is, or what configurations it will be available in right now.

Asus is the only one to show it, and every other newly announced laptop with Skylake only shows the 980m as the high end GPU option.

We know we have at least 2 GPU generations for our GT80's, but isn't the 990m still the same generation as the 980m??

If the GT80 started with the 980m, then a 990m would still be that first generation, and not count toward the 2 "upgrades".

I would hope if a GT80 comes out with 990m's we would still get 2 more generations of GPU's upgrade support beyond the 990m

The air-cooled 990m is only a bit faster than a 980m, it hardly seems worth it for the upgrade cost of 2 GPU's.

 

mason2smart, the shipping ram listed is 2133mhz...base RAM, just like the 1600mhz in the Haswell/Broadwell models.

 

The GT80 with 5 speakers, can really put out the volume, without distortion. This the first laptop I have been able to play this at full volume

Space Shuttle Launch Audio - play LOUD (no music) HD 1080p

 

Theres a very similar scene in IMAX Hubble, you make like that too, I like cranking up my home theater to it.
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Get that on Blu ray or something with uncompressed Audio, so powerful

 

FYI I was looking up the 990mand specs have been released.

The gaming laptop market may be undergoing some drastic changes and redesigns:
http://www.kitguru.net/laptops/anto...irst-liquid-cooled-laptop-with-4k-ips-screen/

 

I saw this yesterday too and this thing is wild, my first thought is I hope it really works because that could open up some cool potential.

 

Anyone try 355.82 yet? Does it have the same 'freeze' issue as that of 355.60? I was on 355.60 and was having constant freezes especially after coming out of standby. Rolled back to 353.49 as I seen many others do and all problems went away. Just a little gun-shy about going to 355.82.

 

mason2smart, there have been lots of posts about the GX700, look around. It is tough to search on though isn't it, what with the MSI GX700 coming up far more than the new Asus GX700 - an unfortunate name.

It has already been said by Asus that they didn't need to Water cool the new GPU, they just thought it would be fun. So others may come out with "990m" on air soon.

The power requirement is too high to SLI without multiple power bricks to feed it, so I don't think we will see it in the GT80 as an SLI config at least.

The GX700 is pretty awesome from a concept / design perspective. It would be nice to see the CPU put in the loop, and an SLI implementation as well in the future. No matter what, water cooling, active chilling, would open up possibilities.

It does limit your mobility for full performance

 

hoofhearted, I am running 355.82 and it stopped the freezes in MGSV, in fact 355.82 was released to support MGSV and MadMax. Give it a try

 

The 17.3" 4K in there is nice to see too. A lot of people have been waiting for that.

 

Hutsady@XoticPC, you probably see people buying 4k and wishing they hadn't due to the scaling and lack of GPU power to get enough FPS at 4k, do you allow them to rollback to a 1080p screen if they aren't happy with their 4k experience?

AFAIK, 980 SLI isn't enough, people are moving to TITAN SLI to feed 4k with new games. How can a 980m, or even a 990m=980, feed a 4k display at 60 fps + ?

 

I personally think 4k is too much for a laptop, now on a 30"+ screen then yes it would be cool but to be honest I would take a 1440p @ 144hz all day over 4k @ 60hz.... Just can't do 60hz no more once I used 144hz. Also the pixels would be so dence on a 18 inch or 17.3 inch screen that it would seriously be hard to tell the difference between 1440p and 4k.

I love what Msi did with keeping the gt80 display at 1080p, we will be able to enjoy games at ultra settings for quite some time with this resolution, the only wish I had was that they included g-sync <-- now that would make this laptop perfection

 

If you did not like the 4K you can return the computer and order another with 1080.

We sell quite a bit of 4K 15.6" and rarely see any come back. I have a 4K 32" for my desktop and 1080 just doesn't cut it for me anymore. It will be different for each individual.

 

Swifta, depending on the panel, you can run the display at 100hz, and vsync at 100fps. With the GT80 SLI that is doable for many games, and those that aren't, I drop down to 75hz, or somewhere in between - I set up custom resolutions in 5hz steps from 75hz to 100hz.

I haven't noticed any screen tearing, and although I know there are other factors involved, the GT80 can maintain a high enough frame rate consistently that I haven't seen the need for Gsync.

So far, not missing Gsync.

 

Hutsady@XoticPC, cool, glad to hear it

I can't imagine trying to operate at 4k at 15.6". I have seen people do it, but it just is too small for me, both the screen size and the object size on the screen.

18" 1080p is perfect. HD movies, streaming, gaming, there isn't a better resolution, for me, right now.

I really do think for most people they just think more is more better, so 4k is what they think they want. Who would admit they were wrong and return it for a 1080p, and suffer the perceived embarrassment.

I would hope people wouldn't force themselves to live with something they weren't happy with, or couldn't use for extended periods, but I know they do.

 

The majority of the computers we sell are still 1080. It probably due to lack of 4K content. I do a lot of photography so I actually take advantage of the 4K screens. But if I didnt do that 1080 would be fine.

 

Scaling support and the extra power consumption are issues too.

 

Hello everyone, I'm new. Intending to buy the top of the line Titan. But two matters stopping me at the moment, maybe I have to wait

(1) Will MSi plug the latest 6th Gen. Intel® Core™ i7 6820HQ / 6700HQ processor into the Titan given the recent refresh? If so, then when might they do that?

(2) Why no g sync? I think this has to do with economics. 18.4" screen laptops are rare and maybe there is not enough economies of scale?

Would be interested in your thoughts. Thank you for reading.

 

Continuing from above #2846, if MSI does not meet both my points (1) and (2), I cannot see much clear advantage between the Titan and their GT72S 6QE Dominator Pro G other than the screen size. Here is the MSI product link on the later,

http://www.msi.com/gaming-iframe/nb/GT72S-6QE-Dominator-Pro-G.html#hero-overview

 

Welcome to the forum Titan King.

I would think at some point we would see a refresh of the gt80, but all they have announced so far is other models. No idea on it yet though.

I haven't seen any 18 inch models that offer G Sync, and there might not be any screens that really work with it since it is a unique size.

The Titan still has the 2x graphics cards, so it would offer more power (just depending on the model you get), and the mechanical keyboard if you're in to that kind of thing. So there is still advantage to it, but yes the GT72 has it's advantages as well.

 

Killer Performance Suite 1.1.56.1560 dated September 3,2015

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/killer-performance-suite-1-1-56-1560.781055/

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