***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

That's not how it works. Firestrike total score is very skewed with the CPU. The GPU score is what counts and we are already on the 23K+ scores with the 980m SLI. This is on the ballpark of a titan X. We can get slightly higher scores indeed, but we will quickly reach the limits with the memory, as 980m does not overclock memory well due to their VRM not being up to snuff or so I have read. Even 970m has higher overclock potential.

Even a titan X with a strong graphics score, will have "low" firestrike scores if you pair it with a core i5 4690k compared to users with 5960x CPUs. You can keep the GPU at the same clocks and the mere change of the CPU yields a noticeable score difference.

Take for reference my 15k scores vs Titan users with 5950/4980HQ processors, getting up to 17K. That's 2K points of difference, for essentially the same graphics score, just higher CPU score. So in summary, the 980m's are already pushed nicely within limits and have just slightly more headroom before reaching the limit. But the 17K score alone is a useless indication of its performance. The 17K score alone though, is a very huge score for a laptop, but other than that, it won't tell the whole story.

In the end all this is just for bragging rights, as overclocking maxwell is a bit difficult to maintain stable. It will vary from game to game because of how the GPU self adjusts voltage. Some games can be easily run at well overt +200/+400 clocks, while others will crash at a mere +100 overclock. The extra temps and power required to run the GPUs overclocked is not worth the average 10% performance increase you get. Even if we did use the two PSU bricks, I don't think it will be worth it other than to get higher scores that won't be used for everyday work/gaming.

We will always be limited by our completely locked down CPUs.

 

Varies with ASIC quality. a common load voltage is 1.062v. Even between my two GPUs there is a load voltage and temp difference. One runs at 1.062 and the other at 1.068v.

 

It has been mentioned several times in the thread before. Several GT80 users are experiencing issues with newer drivers from the 355 family. Even the newest ones are causing hiccups, freezes or hard crashes at random intervals. It might work for a day and then crash within an hour or less.

I am still running 353.62 myself, without issues. I had problems with the new drivers both under windows 10 and 8.1.

 

baazju, I am very stable on 355.82, and have the same model GT80 SLI-263, so I will dump all the relevant data below, and hope that matching your installs / settings will give you the same stable operation.

Your laptop is new, so this could be a hardware issue, the way to eliminate that is to go back to out of the box defaults for stable operation, and debug as if it is a hardware issue.

Have you tuned the CPU with Intel XTU? Go back to defaults for now to reduce the variables that might induce a crash. Also go back to defaults for GPU tuning.

Find something to stress the GPU CPU individually and together, and watch the temps/values for CPU/GPU via hwinfo64 - it wouldn't hurt to turn on logging so you can see the failure point.

If you can't cause a failure with out of the box configuration, then your hardware is likely fine. And, you can work on updating drivers and tuning to see where the failure starts.

Can you remember which version Nvidia driver was the last stable one you ran? Try a clean install of it and see if the crashes stop.

I am running 355.82, but others seem to be having trouble with it. At least one of those has the Prema vBIOS installed, so that may be a factor if you have a different vBIOS/BIOS version.

What is your 980m vbios version, mine is 84.04.48.00.29, which is the vbios it came with. I am also still running the original BIOS E1812MS.10F. Same model as yours GT80 SLI-263

I posted my installed driver versions a few posts back, in 2 postings, check to make sure all your supporting drivers are up to date as well. I didn't mention it there, but I also am at 10.1.1.8 Intel INF driver, doesn't show in Programs and Features.

Also, right click on your C drive/partition, and Tools tab, Check (drive), and scan / fix for issues - if it asks, reboot to fix.

You shouldn't be crashing. What kind of crash is it? Does the video go blank/grey and eventually exit with a Nvidia driver restarted error, or does it crash to a blue screen? What is the blue screen error? If you have the computer set to autorestart on crash, disable that in right click on My Computer, then select properties and Start up options to disable.

What programs are you crashing in? GPU intensive or CPU intensive, or random? It's important to find a pattern to associate the failure with a cause.

Hang in there, this can be solved

Update: Here are my 3d global settings, and note that I have panel set to 75hz right now. I run games/panel either locked to 75hz/100hz, or unlocked running at max fps.





For the most part I use the Nvidia GFE Optimized settings as a starting point to tuning a game, and after that may increase everything to max, just for fun.

 

ryzeki, you are running the Prema vBIOS/BIOS which may have a causative effect, I have tracked these Prema BIOS upgrades in other threads for a while, and there are often special / patched Nvidia drivers for use with it.

You might ask in those forums of Prema and the others what might help.

Which CPU do you have the Haswell, or the Broadwell, which model GT80?

What induces the crashes on 355.82, which games/apps?

 

The crash is not caused by a game. It happens when doing rand things like web browsing, idle, gaming etc. I noticed software like hwmonitor gets stuck/freezes.

The issue is also not caused by prema"s vbios nor are they having issues installing drivers. I tried the original vbios as well as the latest vbios before realizing it was the drivers themselves.

I am running the original first 001 haswell titan.

Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk

 

ryzeki, are you installing all the pieces of the Nvidia download? You could try uninstalling everything except for the Graphics driver from 355.82.

I have had a problem in the past with 3D / Physx versions, I would try leaving out everything except for the Graphics Driver to start.

Updating Intel INF drivers, Intel ME, etc. Disable / don't install the Intel Customer experience crap.

It sounds like at this point you think you have exhausted all options, sorry to hear that, maybe the next release will be stable for you, and others.

I am running my SLI-263 24/7 under heavy FaH load - 100% CPU and 2x 100% GPU, gaming, video, VM's, MS software, development tools, and no crashes.

Update: noticed that you said hwmonitor is freezing, then crash. There have been issues in the past with running multiple monitoring tools. I exit XTU and Afterburner after boot, and only let hwinfo64 run, if anything. You might try doing that. Maybe uninstall hwmonitor and try hwinfo 5.0.4.

Also, random low load reboots, for me, are a symptom of setting the XTU negative voltage offset too low, when I am a bit to aggressive, trying to condition the CPU by running -5mv/-10mv too low. If you have a negative voltage offset, try reducing it by +10mv to see if that helps, like from -75mv to -65mv.

 

Yeah i know what you mean. I actually use thr drivers alone with no 3d driver, nvidia experience and all that. I normally dont run intel xtu/hwmonitor when using it normally unless i want to monitor something. But definitely both couple of new releases cause this.

I tried other things, reinstalling other drivers etc but whenever i use the latest 355 drivers i get those issues that are not present with 353.62 or lower.

No matter what I try, i cant reproduce a crash or problem unless i use the new drivers.

I am not sure if it is somewhat related to win10 as i rolled back from it but i can tell you 100% certain that only 355.63 and 355.82 cause those weird issues. I might look into it with more detail but i have even tried updating the graphics driver alone, the complete package etc and it still crashes. I have everything else up to date.

I did all these tests without undervolting or anything.

Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk

 

ryzeki, sounds like the last thing to try is a restore from recovery 8.1, and see if that gets you a clean base to run from moving forward.

Don't forget to block / hide all the KB's that add 10 crap, and telemetry on the way through the updates.

Please let us know when / what gets you stable.

Typically I don't get these problems, running every release without issue - except for those blocking OC by Asus GPU Tweak/MSI Afterburner - otherwise always stable. But, there are always lots of people with problems, it's a mystery.

Official Windows 10 355.82 Game Ready Display Driver Feedback Thread (8/31/15)
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...eady-display-driver-feedback-thread-8-31-15-/

"GTA V Ran Godlike on my system! Will test other games later and Update!

Edit: Lasted a short while, not sure what has happened (whether Windows 10's satanic auto updates or what but now some games don't load and GTA V is horrendous..."

"If Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes is driving you nuts and alot of your games are getting random hitching and stuttering its the drivers. The gpu usage randomly drops for no reason. i reinstalled windows 8.1 and driver 347.25 and hitching gone and usage is perfect this driver is causing a lot of gpu spikes"

Block the evil X upgrade / updates

Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry - see detailed 1st post and links:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-windows-10-upgrade-disable-telemetry.780476/

Warning: Telemetry and data logging being added to Windows 7/8/8.1
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ogging-being-added-to-windows-7-8-8-1.780489/

It's too early in the Windows 10 release cycle to be expecting stable operation. If you are on 10 you will likely continue to suffer instability with each new driver release, prompted by Windows 10 updates trying to fix the last problem(s) only to create more problems.

Another 6-8 months, before Windows 10 is stable for most without a lot of care and hand-holding the updates.

"-->Stuttering on games while running the normal Windows 10 build 10240 is known,
latest preview build most games do not stutter at all.

-->Resolution issues while running the normal Windows 10 build 10240 is also present,
latest preview build several issues is fixed.

To see if it is version 10240 normal build:
**Ask Cortana, type "winver" and hit enter inside the "Ask me anything" option.
*Or Right click "Start button" and click "Run", type "winver" and hit enter
inside the Run window that pops up.

-->Lots of new Windows 10 drivers and bios over @ Asus for the RVE and other MB´s,
maybe at others too.

-->Running Aida64 and/or possible other similar monitoring software in the background
while gaming may cause CTD´s.

-->New Windows 10 preview build soon. Was suppose to be released other day,
but Microsoft found a bug preventing future updates that they have to fix first.

--> Display Driver UnInstaller (DDU) does not have virus, if anything your AV software is detecting
and give false positive alert.

Have a nice day~
Maria^^"

Someone mentioned having problems coming back from Sleep, that is the last thing fixed - if ever - for OS upgrades / Nvidia drivers - I gave up using Sleep a long time ago - I disable Hibernate and Sleep, C:\powercfg /h 0ff

"Windows 10 running 355.82 on a GTX 970 - Display is completely corrupted after sleeping the computer. I have to hard reset my machine."

 

Any recommendations for the max height on the 2.5" bay? running a qosmio x875 right now and second bay has a 2TB at 15mm or so in it which required a small mod to the plastic bottom cover. drive has my entire 800 or so steam game library, origin, gamefly, and GOG plus assorted files and hate to have to transfer all them. Any help appreciated. GT-80 Titan SLI-258 arriving Wednesday and I can get back to Elite dangerous. OH and coming from a rosewill cooling pad that has a 200ish mm fan under it I think it is, need a bigger pad I think for gaming next to the bed. (disabled veteran with major back and joint problems end up spending a day or two a week stuck on my back or side). Thank you again in advance for your time.

Devnulled

edited to get right height for 2TB wd green drive

 

enforcer72, the 9mm 2TB Seagate fits flush into the space allocated. The cover over the top section doesn't allow enough clearance for the faster thicker 2TB, and now 4TB drives.

Seagate STBD2000102 2TB 5400 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 2.5"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G22K6735

That drive ran too slow, 105MB/sec on long copies, so I took it back, and put in a Samsung 840 Pro 512GB, but that 2.5" slot only supports SATA II speed, so that fast SSD only transfers at 260MB/sec.

You could look for a 9mm 1TB/2TB/4TB+ SSD on sale to put in that 2.5" slot, I am looking myself.

One thing I am thinking of doing is putting in a 2TB SSD, but run an adapter cable from SD3, the M.2 SATA III to 2.5" SATA III so I can get full speed.

 

Thank you for the quick reply hmscott. I was hoping, and I really was hoping as I dislike 5400 rpm drives, guess I get a few 500gb m.2 drives and use them for games I play most then. Thank you for filling me in.

 

enforcer72, look back in the forums, I have posted info on using Evo 850 500GB and Micron M600 512GB.

You have to watch temps on the M.2 drives. I do high CPU batch jobs that raise the temp around the CPU/motherboard, which couples in with the high temp M.2 drives under high IO load, and temps for the M.2's get around 65c+.

That is still ok, but something to be aware of. PCIe M.2's get even hotter.

Please post/share your results when you get it all configured

 

There are 1tb 7200 rpm drives, or 2tb 5400 rpm drives that are out there, but I haven't seen any laptop drives that are 2tb 7200 rpm. So you have to pick between size and speed on HDD right now, or opt to go for the SSDs as you mentioned.

 

enforcer72, the cooling in the GT80 is ok on it's own, additional cooling the outside is nice, even more important for me was putting the screen at the right height on the desk, so I needed something that would angle the screen up, so I got this:

Cooler Master NotePal ErgoStand III - Premium Ergonomic Laptop Cooling Stand with Large 230mm Silent Fan, 4-Port USB Hub, and 6 Height Settings
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834982296

The GT80 extends an inch or two over both sides, but the laptop is at a 45' angle with the screen vertical and raised to eye height. The cooling helps a bit, it is quiet even on highest fan setting.

Others use the Cooler Master U3:
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Oversize-Gaming-Notebooks/dp/B00P464ESO

Cooler Master NotePal U3 PLUS – Gaming Laptop Cooling Pad with 3 Moveable High Performance Fans – Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ3B04769

If I didn't need the loft height, I would likely check out the U3/U3 Plus.

For your 2TB drive, you can run from an external USB 3.0 enclosure, I have done that before with Steam, and it is fast enough for an HDD performance throughput.

This case advertises supporting 15mm drives:

MiniPro USB 3.0 External 2.5" Hard Drive & Solid State SSD Aluminum Enclosure
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...external_enclosure-_-9SIA72538R5665-_-Product

Please be careful lifting the GT80, it's not too heavy at 9.9lbs, but it is wide/broad and can get away from you when twisting over to get at the bottom.

Have fun

 

Look up the weight on my last computer before the one I'm using right now. lol My doctor couldn't move my laptop backpack without grunting and looked at me like he thought I was crazy.

Toshiba Qosmio X505-Q875 retired and given to 21 year old son weighs 9.70 lbs (I think we weighed it at over 11 with the battery in by itself) without the brick sized power brick that weighs several pounds on its own. biggest weight was due to the entire back side between the hinges being a copper heat sink that fans blew through. So, with attaché type carrying case, mouse, mouse pad, any wall warts for phones, etc, misc crap tossed in the entire thing weighed almost 20lbs.

Toshiba Qosmio X875-Q7390 (retiring or selling or using for take with me gaming) weighs 7.5 lbs without power brick (same size/wattage/weight as x505). But, bought the rosewill 17.3" laptop backpack for it, which means I carry more crap when I go places, but it is evenly distributed at least. Cooling setup stinks in this one. Only sucks air from tiny vents in bottom and blows it all to the right across the mouse area, even with the cooling pad/stand it has overheated and shut down and I keep my machines as clean as compressed air and toothbrushes will get them.

 

I have a WD green series model WD20NPVX 2TB in this machine right now. Their Intellipower crap means it runs at variable speeds, but seems to be a consensus that its somewhere closer to 6000 rpm than 5400. I guess I assumed it was 7200 since most of my WD drives have been for years. Speeds are great on it surprisingly at least from my derp perspective.

 

The GT80 only uses m.2 SATA right? Not m.2 pci-e?

Actually, guess the question is, will this work?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147399

 

enforcer72, the Haswell/Broadwell are 4x M.2 SATA III independent or 4x RAID0.

If the GT80 with the Skylake chipset configures as others, it will likely have 2x PCIe x4 M.2 and 2x SATA III M.2 - which might also run 4x M.2 SATA @ 2GB/sec

The 4x SATA III RAID0 runs at 1600MB/sec+, and with 4x 512GB, that's 2TB of very fast storage.

 

That would be 4 m.2 sata III thinking I might get those and run the stock for boot drive and those 2 for games. thoughts?
maybe I should send it back and wait a few months for skylake to come out, though newegg is still charging full price on a T7x that is older and single 980 in it still.

 

enforcer72, MSI, unlike other vendors, put the OS Recovery volume on the secondary drive, not the boot drive.

The current GT80 configurations are coming with 2x 128GB M.2 SSD's, leaving 2 M.2 slots open. The 1TB goes in the 2.5" slot and has the recovery partition.

For me, I immediately used a 32GB USB 3.0 flash drive, and burned it with the recovery boot with MSI BurnRecovery so I could pull the 1TB and set it aside - to preserve the recovery partition.

I also pulled the 2x 128GB drives, and put them in the box as well. The RAID0 will get picked up by the hardware no matter which M.2 goes into which of the 4 slots... you don't need to mark which one came from which slot.

So now I can pull my private data M.2's and 2.5" drive and set aside, and use the original media to send the laptop in for service, RMA, upgrade of GPU's later.

I used the 32GB USB 3.0 boot recovery to restore the out of the box configuration to the 4x RAID0 - you create that RAID0 volume in the BIOS before restore.

After I came up with a good OS install, and application/game install, I used Macrium Reflect to image the C/D partitions to a file, stored externally, and made a Macrium Reflect boot recovery using a 16GB USB 3.0.

Using the Macrium Reflect restore, I could move between various 4x M.2 SSD configurations to test for speed, and heat.

The best deal last I looked was the Evo 850 M.2 500GB, which you can find on sale / pricematch at $177 ea.

You could run 2x 128GB where they are, and 2x 500GB in the free slots, for 2 RAID0 volumes. But, I haven't tried that.

The RAID0 is really the 3x slots, with the 4th slot able to add to the RAID0. I have run it with SD1 / SD3 in a 2x RAID0 for temperature testing, so it should work for SD0/1 + SD2/SD3, but I haven't actually set that up.

 

enforcer72, we don't know when the Skylake GT80 is coming out, no announcement or even a rumor yet, it might be a couple of months, or longer before you can get your hands on one.

The real performance determining item are the 980m's. A faster CPU will benchmark a little faster, but in games you won't notice.

The DDR4 memory will be more expensive to upgrade - to 2666mhz or faster to really see memory bandwidth improvements. DDR3L 2133mhz is $250 or less now for 4 matched.

M.2 PCIE x4 devices are 2.2x more expensive than SATA III M.2's, and you can only fit 2 per laptop, 1TB max at that juicy fast speed, then you have 2x M.2 SATA at only 1GB/sec (2x RAID0 speed), instead of 4x @ 1600MB/sec.

Otherwise you have the TB3/USB 3.1, which in my experience isn't something most people will end up using past the USB 3.0 speeds - you need to get multidevice RAID0 in the external storage to match the TB3 / USB 3.1 speed, which is $1k+.

You can start gaming now, or wait for month(s) to start later.

I decided to get the Broadwell GT80, and will get 3-4 months use out of it before the Skylake GT80 shows up.

You are weeks/months further into the availability / wait, so the choice will lean toward waiting, but I really don't think you will see enough of a use improvement to wait for it, but that is me.

Windows 10 plays a role in all of this. Likely as not MSI will ship the Skylake GT80 with Windows 10, which will be within the teething time of Windows 10 - still mostly unstable / problematic, something to consider.

Maybe order a downgrade to Windows 8.1 from MSI, you could ask, they may offer it.

 

maxwell is actually a really good overclocking GPU, it was definitely better than 780m, same on desktop segment too. get old drivers, overvolt, flash svl7/prema's bios and it'll be good to go.

 

those high CL makes me not wanting to go DDR4.. prob would just hold out until it matures for sure. only way to get 64GB in a laptop is DDR4 though. need 2666mhz at CL12 to be at least decent.

 

For Broadwell(HQ?) DDR3L, there is at least one potential 64GB - 4 x 16GB solution, but it's not cheap:

16GB DDR3(L) SODIMM - make sure to specify Lv 1.35v part when ordering.
http://www.intelligentmemory.com/dram-modules/ddr3-so-dimm/#collapseA1

"NEW: 16GB SO-DIMMs (IMM2G64D3LSOD8A) are compatible to any notebook/ultrabook based on the new 5th Gen Intel Broadwell processors with CPU codes i3/i5/i7-5xxxU! "



Want 32GB of RAM ( 2 x 16GB ) in your laptop or NUC? You can finally do it
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2894...your-laptop-or-nuc-you-can-finally-do-it.html

I don't know anyone that has tried it yet in a GT80 Broadwell, but if possible it might take MSI to update the BIOS to allow the full 64GB to show up...you might need to send 4x16GB to MSI Engineers to make it work.

Update: Found this Crucial 2 x 16GB DDR3L SODIMM kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156043R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156043

 

I hate to sound like a noob, but is anyone having issues with Realtek on Windows 10 with their gt80 titan sli 263? The driver from MSI's website installs fine, it shows RtkNGUI64.exe as a start up item, but when I go into Control Panel, there is no Realtek HD Audio control panel option. I did a search in system32 and found the RTSnMg64.cpl but when I double click it - nothing. Since then I've tried to install the latest drivers from Realtek's site itself and nothing.

It's just weird that I can't access any of the Realtek configuration settings - even from the regular Sound control panel icon.

 

I lost Dolby plugins in window ten and Realtek got messed up on my laptop. When I turned volume up the speakers buzzed and rattled and sounded really crappy.

Wiping and outing windows 8.1 back on find it.
Go into device manager and fully uninstall Realtek then reinstall. Windows audio could be conflicting? I don't mess with Realtek settings because the software has always seemed flakey...

 

Maxwell is only a good overclocker on mobile up to 970m. 980m is well documented to have the least memory overclock capacity out of the entire lineup. The core overclocks just fine. The actual headroom limit for the core lies near 1400mhz if I remember correctly, when fully overvolting it and all. 970m and 860m overclock much nicely without the need of overvolting on the same level. We literally need to overvolt nearly from the get go to be fully stable on 980m.

780m is a far better memory overclocker but not nearly as good core overclocker.

As I mentioned, we have oc'd and discussed 980m potential in numerous threads. I am not talking about GT80 owners only (although we do have a thread for us here) but everyone with a 980m has chimed in. We use svl7 and Prema's vbios to fully overclock. Personally I prefer prema's so far. Even if you don't overclock, Prema removed the power limit on stock so the GPUs run in general better although performance remains largely the same, you do get more stable performance. Additonally, prema's temp limit is 92 and configurable, higher than the 85 or so that was the original limit for throttling.

I am more concerned and currently researching Haswell CPUs. My goal is to eliminate power throttling and allow the CPU tu run at full power 24/7. At least on my 4720HQ anyways. Max speeds I can attain temporarily are up to 3.7ghz quad core with max multipliers and 103.1 blck. But TDP control limits me anyways.

 

Already did that... It installs fine, and I can see the Realtek running as a process in task manager, so it's there. I just said to hell with it and completely uninstalled the Realtek software and let Windows 10 install a High Definition Audio driver and it sounds much better now. I mainly use headphones so I'm not overly concerned about the subwoofer and what not.

Thanks though!

 

Anolin, I am still new to this way of MSI using Realtek + SoundBlaster 3, and Realtek + Nahmic.

I am used to using the Realtek control panel + MaxAudio, on Asus laptops most recently.

So I know what you are looking for, but it also doesn't exist on Windows 8.1, there is no Realtek control panel tuning provided, on my model we are supposed to use Nahmic for MSI to control audio.

Before MSI moved to Nahmic for MSI, they used Creative Sound Blaster 3, which didn't/won't get ported to Windows 10, so MSI went with another product, Nahmic.

Look for the Nahmic for MSI app - not control panel, or SB3 app/control panel ?? You have one or the other.

MSI updates drivers / apps much like other vendors, they post the newest drivers with their latest hardware release - so look for the newest laptop release + Windows 10, as those drivers will work on Windows 8 - they will install for either OS.

Don't use the Intel Management Engine or Chipset drivers for Windows 10, don't even try if you have Windows 8/7.

Nahmic is at version 1.2.6 to be coupled with Realtek .7576, that is the combo being shipped by MSI, and works fine for me on Windows 8. You need to uninstall both Nahmic then Realtek, a couple of reboots as requested, then install Realtek followed by Nahmic, reboots also.

Have fun

 

Anolin, headphones, wired or BT, aren't supported by the sound shaping software, like Nahmic:



But, for speakers it does provide some sound shaping control, and I have found it marginally useful. I would have liked some more direct control over the subwoofer output level.

With the MSI Nahmic, there isn't any subwoofer over-driving so no subwoofer bottoming out and crackling - I can crank up the GT80 all the way and it just keeps putting out good sound.

For headphones I use the Windows settings to add Loudness and Bass :



FYI, some people have cited using the $ product from SoundBlaster to replace Nahmic and the lost SB3:

Sound Blaster X-Fi MB3, supports Windows 7,8,10
http://software.store.creative.com/p/software/sound-blaster-x-fi-mb3

The Sound Blaster X-7 also looks interesting. It provides everything in 1 package, headphone amp, BT Headphone connectivity, and 35-50w/channel speaker amp:
http://us.creative.com/p/sound-blaster/sound-blaster-x7
http://www.soundblaster.com/amplifiers.aspx
http://us.creative.com/p/sound-blaster/sound-blaster-x7-limited-edition

 

LOL its funny how you even brought it up only worked for latest gen. those dont work for older chipset which sucked, those are probably meant for 32gb laptops with 2 dim slots. with 4 dimms older chipset will not post with it.

 

ive seen ones that went to 1500. even 1400 is pretty damn amazing tbh. iirc meaker did some pencil mod? was 780 or 980m i forgot prob 980m, and was pretty good with it. but then he sold it so maybe not need to ask him to know for sure.

but yeah exactly with these new HQ CPU limited by TDP is only thing is a real let down. which is why if only Skylake HK can OC without TDP limitation that would be great which I highly doubt it. this is the route intel go for so that we dont get another xm cpu ever again and then they can milk some more.. per 100mhz each refresh LOL

 

Does anybody here use a laptop cooler pad for the Titan? What are your thoughts whether or not you use one? By design the Titan doesn't need one, but does it help for it to sit on a cooling pad? Thanks.

 

The chipset used in the Titan (currently) is Intel HM87. It was launched in Q2'13 and the expected discontinuance is Q4'15, which is next month!

http://ark.intel.com/products/75528

I bet that means there will be a big refresh of the Titan in early 2016 - new chipset, Skylake, maybe even G-Sync? This is just my speculation. Also coincides with one year anniversary since the launch of the Titan. I think I better hold out until 2016.

 

unityole, it's a wishful post, and I am happy you got a LOL out of it

 

I modded both, when at their limits they reacted similarly, though the 780M was more forgiving power wise, the 980M was struggling with noise on the memory bus after the power mod, the filtering may need to be adjusted.

 

Titan King, that's the chipset, the current CPU's, the 5950HQ were released 2Q15, just months ago.

If you wait until 2016, you might as well wait until mid-2016, when the 1080m video card is rumored to be released to replace the 980m, which was released 10/2014.

Why get an old GPU when you can get a brand new one, maybe with a new CPU as well, mid-2016 is when the Kabylake refresh of Skylake (same 100-series chipset) will be released.

But, if you buy then, in a few months your now obsolete motherboard chipset and 14nm CPU will be replaced by the 200 series chipset and the 10nm Cannonlake CPU.

About 6 months later, the 1090m will be released...

 

The motherboard may be discontinued in a month but there will probably be some overlap with the new skylake model and the older 5th gen model. MSI is not going to discontinue one model without another model ready to replace it. My best guess is October at the latest.

FYI Kaby lake is only a very slight modification of skylake and should only have negligible performance impacts. Skylake offers new ports and ram and should be more graphics based to better compete with AMD.

 

New Killer Performance Suite 1.1.56.1570 dated September 13,2015
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/killer-performance-suite-1-1-56-1570.781468/

New Killer Bluetooth drivers for Windows 10 dated September 13,2015
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...s-for-k1202-n1525-n1535.778737/#post-10059556

I'm wondering if any of the Skylake notebooks will have an Intel AC-8260(2x2) + Bluetooth 4.2 wireless card?

 

Intel cards aren't better than killer cards, right?

 

I put an AC-7265 in one of my MSI notebooks for WiDi. mirroring.

For transferring files on homenetwork to other attached devices,NAS and USB attached storage the Killer N1525 is much faster.

Downloading from the Internet showed no difference

 

skylake MX thanks intel.

btw is there a modded unlock bios for this machine? from prema/svl7

 

Yes there is check out his site and donate

Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk

 

I know this probably isn't the right place to put this question, but I have been drooling over this laptop for the last two months now. I even got to the point to where I actually ordered the MSI GT80 Titan-253 from XoticPc and I had to cancel because I found out that my brand new fiancee is pregnant. Adding the fact that I just spent thousands on the engagement and throwing my first child into mix, I panicked regarding my finances and decided to wait.

My question here is that I currently own a MSI GT70 2OD-039US Dragon v2 RED 17.3" 4700MQ 3.4GHz 780M 32G RAM RAID 384G SSD 1TB, and while it has served me very well over the last two years:

1. What price do you guys think would be reasonable to sell it for on Ebay? I was considering $1200-1500 and I really want to use those assets to partially fund the purchase of the GT80.
2. With the new Skylakes out and the possibility of a GT80 version 2, do you guys think it would even be worth selling my current GT70 and buying the current GT80, or should I just wait?
3.Can anyone tell me if there is standard time frame that MSI usually announces new versions of laptops? I was just wondering if they kept to a yearly schedule like around Jan or April.

I know some of these questions may be a dumb, but it would really help me out with my decision. Any opinions that you guys have (even negative ones) are greatly appreciated.

Thanks

 

Que?

 

Tm

TMI bro.

 

Que? Below is a link to our test and tune thread when we started using the Prema vbios. Hopefully it will give you a proper direction.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gt80-3dmark-scores-test-and-tune.773245/page-15

 

WhatsThePoint, it's interesting watching the stability of drivers move the trends of which Wifi is "garbage" and which ones are "best".

For much of the last few years the Intel Wifi series has been "garbage", and the Killer has been on top - the 1202 had a good driver run most of the time even from the beginning so it was considered best.

Old wifi routers have problems with newest Wifi chipsets, Intel was the worst because they tried to set strict adherence to 802.11 spec. That was much of the driver problem source for Intel over that long dark time for the Intel 7260.

But, the 1525 had a rocky start, and so Killer got a bad rap until recently when the drivers gelled.

The Intel series just started getting better drivers maybe 6-8 months ago, and so Intel were recovering as the 1525 was having trouble. I think that is where Intel briefly got a better rep than Killer.

The 1535 Killer chipset is being shipped by MSI, so far I haven't heard anything bad about the drivers - maybe it is close enough to the 1525 to have good stable drivers at release.

The Intel 8260 is Intel's attempt to distance themselves from the 72xx series problems over the last few years. Hopefully the current stable drivers will remain stable for the 8260 release.

I wouldn't feel bad about getting either the 8260 or the 1535, but personally I would feel better about getting the 1525/1535.

 

Clark_$, congrats on the newborn coming soon

Your model last sold on Ebay in late June for $1975; current listings show a range of $1300-$1600.

With all the new Skylake rage going on, it's not the best time to sell, people are looking for large discounts.

You could list it for $1000 buy it now, and it would sell right away. Trying to get that last $300 might take a while, or end up not happening.

You could unbundle any upgrades you add, like memory, SSD, power adapters, etc and sell them separately to maximize the $ back to you.

Be sure and list the GPU model inside your laptop, you didn't list it above.

The GT80 is releasing new models whenever a new tech of interest comes out, there is no set schedule.

Broadwell, Skylake, Pascal, Kabylake, maybe even the 990m might generate a new model.

As far as I can tell there is no way to accurately guess a laptop makers release/shipping schedule ahead of time.

Keep your ear to the ground, talk to retailers, vendors, ask their buyers, find out the delivery schedules and when their order / incoming inventory sheets come out.

As soon as a model number is available set up alerts for product so you can act quickly when they become available.

So far all the GT80's with the same SLI GPU have performed close to their predecessor, small improvements at best.

GPU is the deciding factor for most gaming performance, and all the GT80 CPU's are good in CPU intensive games.

The Skylake release brings more expensive DDR4, PCIe x4, Thunderbolt 3 / USB 3.1, but none of it will appreciably improve game performance.

The Skylake CPU's so far are about 10-15% > than Haswell, but that doesn't translate into noticeable in game performance.

You would be very happy with a Haswell, Broadwell, Skylake GT80, they will all rock